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Gulf states to push for a US plan for containing Iran | World news | The Guardian


In the expectation of a nuclear deal in June, the Gulf monarchies are worried about an emboldened, enriched Iran expanding its reach and they are seeking reassurance at this month’s Camp David summit



The leaders of the Gulf Arab states are due to fly to the US in mid-May for a two-day summit with Barack Obama in the White House and then in Camp David, a presidential favour largely seen by the guests as compensation for the emerging nuclear deal with Iran.

The invitees are expected to suppress their doubts about the deal for the sake of good manners. As one senior Gulf official put it: “We’re not going to do a Netanyahu.”

We are not wasting time confronting that agreement. We don’t want to be seen as going against a close ally. It would be bad politics for us. Instead we are bracing ourselves for the post-agreement world.

For the most part, he did not express those concerns in terms of Iranian breakout times for making a bomb, or uranium enrichment capacity. In the event of a completed deal at the end of June, which this official saw as a foregone conclusion, his most immediate worry was the economic boost Iran would receive from sanctions relief.

For Iran post-June, we see just one scenario: An emboldened and more muscular Iran with $150 billion in unfrozen assets in their pockets...In a way, the $150 billion in assets is more important that the nuclear file.

The Gulf monarchies see this money as a potential Iranian slush fund for cultivating militia on the model of Lebanon’s Hizbullah. They see the Houthis in Yemen in the same light. This official claimed there were as many as 5,000 Iranian, Hizbullah, and Iraqi Shia trainers in Yemen, under Iranian supervision.

At the Camp David meeting with Obama, he said, the Gulf states would want “more than just a photo opp and a political statement”.

A positive outcome would be a concise and clear agreement on the containment of Iranian influence after the deal.

This agreement would take the form of a memorandum of understanding, and would be accompanied by arms sales and support that would give forces in the Gulf a “qualitative advantage” over Iran, a phrase echoing the guiding philosophy underpinning US military support for Israel.

There is due to be a meeting of foreign ministers of the Gulf Cooperation Council countries with US secretary of state, John Kerry, in Paris next week to prepare for the summit, and the containment plan would be debated there. Realistically, the Gulf official said, the outcome will fall between the photo opp he feared, and the paper agreement he hoped for, though what such a compromise would look like, he found it hard to say.
 
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These Arab monarchies should work toward democratic reforms so that people have trust and confidence in their countries institutions. Bahrain is prime example where the royal family ignores aspirations of majority of its population. Libya collapsed when Qaddafi lost all support of his people after 40 years of rule. Arabia is ruled by Saudi family with 7,000 billionaire princes. Iran will be no threat if these Persian Gulf states are democratic.
 
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are they going to pay us? containing and war isn't cheap.
 
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are they going to pay us? containing and war isn't cheap.
Well of course my dear . they pay you much alright

but meh . its not like this will change anything in US interactions with Iran , is it ?

so meh dear .

We're safe and sound :)
 
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Gulf states to push for a US plan for containing Iran | World news | The Guardian


In the expectation of a nuclear deal in June, the Gulf monarchies are worried about an emboldened, enriched Iran expanding its reach and they are seeking reassurance at this month’s Camp David summit



The leaders of the Gulf Arab states are due to fly to the US in mid-May for a two-day summit with Barack Obama in the White House and then in Camp David, a presidential favour largely seen by the guests as compensation for the emerging nuclear deal with Iran.

The invitees are expected to suppress their doubts about the deal for the sake of good manners. As one senior Gulf official put it: “We’re not going to do a Netanyahu.”

We are not wasting time confronting that agreement. We don’t want to be seen as going against a close ally. It would be bad politics for us. Instead we are bracing ourselves for the post-agreement world.

For the most part, he did not express those concerns in terms of Iranian breakout times for making a bomb, or uranium enrichment capacity. In the event of a completed deal at the end of June, which this official saw as a foregone conclusion, his most immediate worry was the economic boost Iran would receive from sanctions relief.

For Iran post-June, we see just one scenario: An emboldened and more muscular Iran with $150 billion in unfrozen assets in their pockets...In a way, the $150 billion in assets is more important that the nuclear file.

The Gulf monarchies see this money as a potential Iranian slush fund for cultivating militia on the model of Lebanon’s Hizbullah. They see the Houthis in Yemen in the same light. This official claimed there were as many as 5,000 Iranian, Hizbullah, and Iraqi Shia trainers in Yemen, under Iranian supervision.

At the Camp David meeting with Obama, he said, the Gulf states would want “more than just a photo opp and a political statement”.

A positive outcome would be a concise and clear agreement on the containment of Iranian influence after the deal.

This agreement would take the form of a memorandum of understanding, and would be accompanied by arms sales and support that would give forces in the Gulf a “qualitative advantage” over Iran, a phrase echoing the guiding philosophy underpinning US military support for Israel.

There is due to be a meeting of foreign ministers of the Gulf Cooperation Council countries with US secretary of state, John Kerry, in Paris next week to prepare for the summit, and the containment plan would be debated there. Realistically, the Gulf official said, the outcome will fall between the photo opp he feared, and the paper agreement he hoped for, though what such a compromise would look like, he found it hard to say.

Agha Jaan

US is not there for "Gulf monarchies" or the love of sheiks.

The real reason is irani Mullah's $tupid behavior. Why the fork hijack a ship from international waters.

Now here comes US response

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/w...e-again-at-center-of-us-iran-strife.html?_r=0
 
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are they going to pay us? containing and war isn't cheap.

They do. Just not you footfolk.

They pay your "representative" two faced monarchs, the "elected" selected family elites, who send people like you to your death for your own "protection and freedoms" so they can keep enjoying their premium life at one of their dozen homes.

But it's okay you can "choose" the representative of your monarchy and "choose" between various "free" channels of state propaganda and even controlled opposition is always there if you want to dance out of line.
 
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Agha Jaan

US is not there for "Gulf monarchies" or the love of sheiks.

The real reason is irani Mullah's $tupid behavior. Why the fork hijack a ship from international waters.

Now here comes US response

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/w...e-again-at-center-of-us-iran-strife.html?_r=0

Iran's foreign policies sometimes amazes even me to be honest.:lol:
If they were smart, i believe they could have played their game, while avoiding international sanctions/isolation in the first place. But radical/open rhetoric wouldnt alow them do so unforutnately.
 
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Iran's foreign policies sometimes amazes even me to be honest.:lol:
If they were smart, i believe they could have played their game, while avoiding international sanctions/isolation in the first place. But radical/open rhetoric wouldnt alow them do so unforutnately.
Well said

Sometimes I wonder that in 2015AD Mullahism and brains cannot exist in the same body.
It may have existed 1000s of years ago. But not now.

Hence the "amazing" policies of Iranian Mullahs.
 
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Iran is involved in unconventional warfare using tactics like intimidating Arab and other states in the Persian Gulf. The Iranian nuclear framework deal has gone to their head and they are overplaying their cards.
 
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indeed , buying nuclear tipped missiles

Nobody needs to reinvent the wheel ! The basic missile technology is needed and then you build on it. That is what Pakistan and Iran have done in missile technology as the rest of the world.
 
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Nobody needs to reinvent the wheel ! The basic missile technology is needed and then you build on it. That is what Pakistan and Iran have done in missile technology as the rest of the world.
not the wheel , but the nuclear know how is somewhat different , iran gave up their uranium stockpile but at least they got the know how , just in case
 
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not the wheel , but the nuclear know how is somewhat different , iran gave up their uranium stockpile but at least they got the know how , just in case

Germany, Japan, Canada, etc have technology to build nuclear bombs so does Iran. Uranium is not the only path to nuclear arms.
 
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These Arab monarchies should work toward democratic reforms so that people have trust and confidence in their countries institutions. Bahrain is prime example where the royal family ignores aspirations of majority of its population. Libya collapsed when Qaddafi lost all support of his people after 40 years of rule. Arabia is ruled by Saudi family with 7,000 billionaire princes. Iran will be no threat if these Persian Gulf states are democratic.
So far, at least, it seems the Arab monarchies are far more stable than the Arab republics have been. Where has all the strife been? Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, etc. Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait, Oman, UAE, Qatar, etc, far more stable and socialy at peace.
 
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