Listen Indiot, I do not have time for bullshit.
Muslims still would have been a minority of 25-33% in a United South Asia from Peshawar to Chittagong.
Partition was right, to preserve Muslim culture and identity.
Sorry, but why confuse the new generations of Pakistanis? Pakistan was created to preserve Muslim identity and culture. Not buying your stupid argument.
Indian National Congress were not giving the reserved seats for Muslims. So we should live under the domination of Hindus who make 67-73% of India?
You sir are a moron!
For a person who doesn't consider himself a Pakistani, or who is not declared to be a Muslim, I do not know if you are a Muslim? Then what are you doing on a Pakistani forum then? And then you say to 250 million Pakistanis that partition was wrong? lol?
Are you buffoon or what?
No bruv your either confused or mistaken or willfully retarded
Muslims and Hindus did not live in peace for a thousand years
Hundreds of millions or at least millions of hindus were slaughtered over waves of Muslims invasions until the Hindus were broken and their kings fell to their knees and gave their princesses as tribute, their most historical and religious sites were decimated.
Peace if their was any was enforced at the point of a sword or barrel of a gun
There were countless slaughters, conflicts and riots
Partition was ESSENTIAL because Jinnah foresaw what was going to happen, and you two massive populations with differing views of history, neither able or willing to back down
He say the mental baggage the Hindus were carrying after 1000 years of defeat and humiliation, he understood that in a land where they formed the majority they would seek to Hinduize the state and it would be at the cost of the Indian Muslims who would resist and their would be inevitable conflict if not outright civil war
The slaughter of Partition was just the beginning
Look at Indian Muslims today countless riots and humiliation,, a state that is ERASING their history and place names. A education system which more or less erases Indian Muslims history and culture a constant barrage of Hindu crap from Parliament to school books to T.V
Indian Muslims have no state, no government, no military, no political party to represent them
A few fucking dopes be becoming rich in a sea of despair means nothing
Their only strength is 200+ million population and strength of faith to keep their community strong and teach their children their history, faith and values
Let me be clear
INDIAN MUSLIMS DESERVE THEIR FATE, they had a choice, they could have pushed for freedom of their own areas (they still can)
The sikhs are the same, Jinnah told them clearly that either you gain independence or you will be swamped
Pakistan for the majority of the last 75 years was ahead of India and south of India most indexes, and we need to get back a solid 10-15 years of development will do it,, but we have a worthlessness corrupt political system to overcome
But independence is far far better then being stuck in purgatory alongside a a Hindu enemy
Clearly you didn't read must history. Do you realise that such acts were commonly happening pre-partition and was a huge driving factor behind Quaid-e-azam supporting the creation of a new nation?
60 crore Muslims without political power and ruled by a Hindu majority who outnumber them 2 to 1 means 60 crore victims instead of 20 crore victims as it is now.
You are either delusional, or a poopjeet.
Kind of
bias and childish logic is alarming. You guys speaking like a super brainwashed people without using a single brain cell of your own. Only thing you can say is 'oh you are not a pakistani' LMAO! This is height of your
ignorance and
acceptance of your defeat by not making a logical point and accusing another person to be HINDU or INDIAN. I also accuse Abdul Majeed khan as disguised pakistani as indian but never knew myself will be accused just because extremists have almost zero capability to listen the arguments from any other person.
No wonder, why Pakistan is in a state that it is now. No capability to listen to arguments and start accusing other with pack of lies. It is disgusting to be honest.
Your absolutely zero logic and only accusations is a
proof itself that division was a mistake. You have developed into
two extremist states with
zero tolerance level. Such narrow / bias views tch tch. What is exactly the difference between you and an
RSS goon, When you fails to argue and resorts to accusation and start calling other person as indian. You doing exactly the
same. and this proves all my points again that what a failed idea it was to create two extremist nations based on bloody partition and continued hatred
. Human society bounded by such hate for another humans just because of their faiths is
disgusting. Its laughable that you people think yourselves as perhaps good muslims
. What kind of muslim will accuse another because of his different views on the concept which weakened muslims at first place.
The argument that some pre-partition riots happened - yes happened towards end of british raj - the whole approach of british was divide & conquer. There wasn't that much of an issue before british arrival. The riots only started in much frequency when a specific group of people started talking about separate land. Parition was massive political mistake for muslims. They were thinking a
HUGE piece of land almost
half of india as muslims and other half as hindus. But that
NEVER happened, you got very small land comparatively and that too at both ends separated by a hindu state. It was
terrible geographic with 1000s of KM between two ends. Ultimately Bengalis giving two F--ks to whole Concept and ultimately creation of
Bangladesh. Only Kids can talk as you people are talking. Intellectuals like
Molana Abdul Kalam Azad and various muslims were absolutely right that in short term for few years this concept of parition may appease but at the lense of history in 100s of years it will become obvious that it was a mistake. That has 100% become obvious by the way you people are reacting, the way you have developed intolerance because solely of
partition, the way you guys have developed a
narrow / bias and hatred filled mentality thats a shame for any human society. Another obvious failure of Pakistan as a failed state. It was promised to be a welfare state. Entire
75 years is filled with
military barbaric dictatorship and fuedal lords over poors in Sindh & lower Punjab. The country is literally drowning in debts and there is no way out. Even Today it is practically as marshal law, the most patriotic leadership is in jails, the patriotic journalists are either killed or tortured. BTW, same story is happening continously for 75 years in tribal areas and Balochistan. And you guys are arguying that bloody parition was right ? Sectarian violence, 80,000+ dead in recent 15 years in war on terror Where the terrorists are also so-called muslims, they blew themselves up saying Allah o Akbar, obviously they are not doing any service to Islam but those suicide bombers are illiterate they think they are doing it for Islam, they are illiterate and brainwashed just like you folks.
Giving pathetic accuses that oh see whats happening in india today to muslims. LMAO! First of all such few events in a country with over a billion population cannot be counted at all. Chances of this to be done to a single person is one in literally
million years. Secondly, WHO the F--k would have done this to you if you were to be in power and in numbers. Use your god damn little brains. Atleast try to use a single cell of out of it. It's pretty
common sense that with
70 crore muslims you would have made a
huge part of government.
United india would have been a
leader of entire muslim world. It was Ummah in
real sense Not a selfish, narrow thinking that oh its 20 crore indian muslims fault lmao. At one end you guys claim to be ummah chummah and other end you F--k up 20 crore muslims and discard them and act completely selfish. No one with muslim
Partition was only division of muslims. It weakend muslims to a lot degree. A big chunk left in India, Big chunk in Pakistan, Big Chunk in Bangladesh, and one big, powerful country with majority hindus to bully the small new country.
Try to think bigger, try to think of history not from few riots point of view but from larger perspective, see implications of this decision in 100s of years, Try to open your minds.
Try to think on energies spent against each other for 75+ years, the bloody wars, the full efforts to destablize each other, ISI, RAW, the kashmir issue, the bloody partition, the riots that erupted when this movement for parition started - all that could have been avoided and you see a world power. Despite consuming so much effort on Pakistan, india still has become world's 5th largest economy and a space power, Pakistan became nuclear power but sadly nothing else - Together with unity they would have been at top of world. Your concepts would have been different. You would have grown matured, with your own intellectual thinking. Not the one which was fed to you in your childhood. One of reasons why indians are dominating the tech world, becoming world leaders both politically and technically around the world is that their education is objective and conceptual. Unlike the way which we were taught. If we don't realize our mistakes we will never progress.
Saying all that - I know above is too much for you to consume. Pakistan is created now. Pakistan is a reality. It cannot be undone. Now we must try to change our thinkings, We must try to remove our unneccassry hatred. If BJP / RSS are extremists, we don't have to follow their examples. We have tons of problems of our own. If 75 years were a failture, our only option now is to imrpove our future and that will be done by accepting our mistakes and learning from mistakes. We must improve our education sector, we must do massive reforms in it. We must do reforms in military too so it becomes a force that always work under its consittutional boundary. A state can only last if there's regard of law in it. and lastly and most importantly if we have to succeed ever in life then we must develop the guts to listen to others and must develop ability to listen to new ideas and out of box thinking. We must develop tolerance. Extremist behavious will see us our doom. Thank you
