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Didem Sen was living in Nişantaşı, a wealthy Istanbul neighbourhood mostly inhabited by members of the secular elite, when she was trying to conceive her first child at the age of 40.

She had felt the need to wait until she was married and her career was developed before trying to have a child, but fertility treatments did not work and she soon gave up.

Six years later, she says she is grateful for having missed her chance.

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, has regularly urged Turkish women to have as many as three children (most recently after the birth of his sixth grandchild, saying the country needs “bigger numbers for our population as a nation”) but underlying what many see as out-of-date, patriarchal statements is an inconvenient truth: Turkey’s population growth has stalled, and its fertility rate has declined to its lowest level since the first world war. It is also ageing.

Though Turkey remains the second most populous country in Europe after Germany, with a population of 79.5 million, and has one of the lowest median ages in Europe at 31.5 - but up from 28.8 in 2009 - figures this year from the government-run Turkish Statistical Institute showed the first time that fertility rates had dropped to the replacement rate of 2.1 in 2016.

That decline masks steeper falls in the cities but is coupled with an accelerating birth rate among refugees and rural communities that heralds the potential for major changes in the country’s demographics over the next decade.

“People in the upper social groups in Turkey have one or two children, they don’t have three or four,” said one doctor who requested anonymity. “People with larger families are in lower socio-economic groups.”

Turkey is in a dilemma that is familiar to both its Arab and European neighbours. On the one hand, a population boom without an expanding economy capable of creating jobs for young people can lead to a youth bulge and rising unemployment and marginalisation – a problem facing many Middle Eastern societies. But an unchecked decline in its fertility rate would leave Turkey with an ageing population – a problem that many countries in Europe face.

“Turkey is never going to have a population of 100 million people,” said Prof Ahmet Içduygu, a sociologist from Koç University. “The policy that a bigger population means a strong country belongs to the 20th century, and we are likely to face the same problems as western countries today in 50 years.”


“Moreover, if young people don’t get a proper education and the economic system doesn’t absorb them, you will have consequences like integration problems with the refugee population, unemployment and other complications,” he added.

Figures show population growth in rural areas vastly surpassing that in the largely secular cities. While western provinces nearer Europe, such as Edirne, had birth rates as low as 1.5, the south-eastern province of Şanlıurfa, which has a high Kurdish population and half a million Syrian refugees, had a rate nearly three times as high: 4.33.

Dr Ali Enver Kurt, a gynaecologist and expert in fertility who was tapped by the municipality of Beyoğlu in Istanbul to deliver lectures and seminars to the public on fertility and in vitro fertilisation, said environmental factors such as pollution, a high smoking rate, prevalence of sexually transmitted diseases and everyday stress factors in big cities were the main reasons for infertility problems.

He estimated that 15-20% of the Turkish population suffered from difficulties conceiving, a figure that is relatively normal in developed societies.



The fall is also a symptom of Turkey’s modernity, rising education levels and improving career opportunities for women, in addition to fears over the country’s increasing polarisation. Many who delay having children, or do not have any at all, do so for a number of reasons, such as cost, the prioritisation of careers, or because they do not want to raise children in a country with myriad social conflicts.


Many of the factors limiting Turkey’s population growth are common to countries in the developed world, but Turkey is particularly distinctive because of its large refugee population. It already hosts 3 million people who fled the fighting in neighboring Syria, many of whom will be eligible for citizenship, and that number is set to increase rapidly. About 177,000 babies were born to Syrian mothers in Turkey between 2011 and 2016, with researchers at Hacettepe University estimating that 80,000 were born in 2016 with another 90,000 projected births in 2017.

“This means from now on every year 100 thousand babies will be born and this will generate 1 million more refugees in 10 years,” said Dr Murat Erdoğan, the director of Hacettepe University’s Migration and Politics Research Centre. He that if Syrian refugee families settle permanently in Turkey, it could could make up for the country’s labour shortfall but also strengthen the influence of Islam in the 100-year-old secular republic. “This has aspects Turkey has to consider aside from the humanitarian side,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ar-religious-divide-erdogan-population-growth

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Turkey's fertility rate fall is one of the biggest threat to country's chances of becoming a fully developed high income country and get out of "middle-income trap"

Continous and healthy population growth is critical for long-term prosperity of any nation.
 
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Turkey needs young people to keep up with the ageing population and prevent the inverted pyramid.
 
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Across the border it's pretty much the same in Iran - population growth rate has stalled.
 
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I would prefer quality over quantity.

Having a healthy fertility rate is quality. 2.5-3 kids per woman on average is what’s called “quality” demographic profile. Having 7 kids per woman like in Africa is quantity and bad. Having below replacement fertility rate is also sub quality fertility for any nation.

Try to undertand the subject at hand before becoming a wanna be smart alec

You can’t be a high income fully developed country without demographic momentum. No country became developed with bad quality demographics (like Turkey is heading towards).

Germany, Japan, Europe, US all headed towards aging AFTER they became fully rich and developed. Turkey is heading towards an ageing society BEFORE it’s even fully developed. Big difference

Across the border it's pretty much the same in Iran - population growth rate has stalled.

Actually no.

Iran has reversed its demographic demise in past few years. Iranian TFR has risen to from 1.6 to nearly two kids per woman...which is still low but the trajectory is upwards and best of luck to them to achieve 2.5-3 TFR in future.

Turkey needs that too otherwise it’s dreams of becoming any relevant power would be diminished
 
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Its the dating culture. After banging 25 chicks. And at the age of becoming uncles and aunties people start thinking about marriage or children in the West.
 
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2-3 kids is the magic number. A slow & steady increase in population is easier to plan for economically.
 
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Its the dating culture. After banging 25 chicks. And at the age of becoming uncles and aunties people start thinking about marriage or children in the West.

Is it same in Turkey as well? The thread is about Turkey
 
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We need to integrate these Syrians quick as possible into Turkish society So they become “Turks” or feel like a Turk, otherwise we are going to have another Kurdish “problem” like we did with the rodents from northern Iraq who ended up joining PKK.
 
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We need to integrate these Syrians quick as possible into Turkish society So they become “Turks” or feel like a Turk, otherwise we are going to have another Kurdish “problem” like we did with the rodents from northern Iraq who ended up joining PKK.
Absolutely...not the same problem with Syrian...since they already have/Had a country...

Making more kids= more $$ spent on them... What does Turkey offer for those additional babies? If families were financially supported then they could even go the 4-5 kids...

The fall in birth...comes with the condition of the increase of Working woman... who prefer/need to spent more time at work for her own future etc... so a kid means less time spent at work and sometimes no more promotion... so the less the better...
 
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we are a small planet holding 7.5 billion people running out of resources every day and this asshole wants to push more babies for some dick measuring bullshit. i decided that i will only have 1 kid that's if my girl is tall. give me a quality life in canada, NZ or austrailia any day of the week over an overpopulated shit hole
 
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we are a small planet holding 7.5 billion people running out of resources every day and this asshole wants to push more babies for some dick measuring bullshit. i decided that i will only have 1 kid that's if my girl is tall. give me a quality life in canada, NZ or austrailia any day of the week over an overpopulated shit hole
Germany has a higher population density than Turkey.

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British papers should worry about their own, more serious, demographic problems instead of Turkey's non-existent ones:

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