Guardian | Narendra Modi, a man with a massacre on his hands,is not the reasonable choice for India?

[Android]

Did not bother after this line.. This writer is one of those Bengali pure Secular scums.

This sudden uneasiness among the Christian fronts make me totally sure that I chose the correct party.

now get ready for some serious lectures by secular members about "Idea of India".

 

[SouthDesi]

First The Economist and now The Guardian looks like UK simply doesn't want to see its former slave country coming out their misery

Actually, same journo will provide news for both Economist and Guardian from Delhi i guess.

Aditya Chakrabortty who wrote this article is not Pakistani lol

Chef always cooks the food ordered by his customer, not from his own choice.

 

[Android]

slowly bjp gaining foothold in Orissa
Odisha: BJP gains on Modi name, Naveen may slip in his toughest fight | The Indian Express | Page 99

 

[Leader]

India has an educated, secular elite who can see beyond Modi's hype.

But the emotional masses (including young urbanites) are getting swept up in the nationalist fervor which has been whipped up by the corporate media. The young crowd is eager for a muscular India, which a prudent academic like MMS won't deliver.
Modi is exploiting this passionate need for assertiveness.

you summed up very accurately bro

 

[INDIC]

you summed up very accurately bro

Leave the grumbling of the leftist British media about India, I have seen how much Tabdeeli you have achieved in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

 

[Contrarian]

India has an educated, secular elite who can see beyond Modi's hype.

But the emotional masses (including young urbanites) are getting swept up in the nationalist fervor which has been whipped up by the corporate media. The young crowd is eager for a muscular India, which a prudent academic like MMS won't deliver.
Modi is exploiting this passionate need for assertiveness.

You have mistaken the woods for the forest developereo..And since you seem to be interested in this topic @Leader .

The main reason why Modi is getting votes is because the young crowd is eager for an economically prosperous India.
MMS has failed in every economic parameter, there is a very visible slowdown in Indian economy, jobs are harder to come by, salaries are not growing, graduates are doing menial jobs, the prices of foods and vegetables has risen exponentially.

All this is acutely felt all over India. You cannot hide this from the average person of India. And every one realizes that this is more because of Government's failures, not just the international slump.

For over a year, there have been daily articles in every paper in India about how Government's is not giving clearances to businesses to start, how x/y/z is holding up projects worth lakhs of crores, etc, etc.

The muscular India is simply garnishing on top the main food which BJP is offering - that is economy and development.

 

[Leader]

You have mistaken the woods for the forest developereo..And since you seem to be interested in this topic @Leader .

The main reason why Modi is getting votes is because the young crowd is eager for an economically prosperous India.
MMS has failed in every economic parameter, there is a very visible slowdown in Indian economy, jobs are harder to come by, salaries are not growing, graduates are doing menial jobs, the prices of foods and vegetables has risen exponentially.

All this is acutely felt all over India. You cannot hide this from the average person of India. And every one realizes that this is more because of Government's failures, not just the international slump.

For over a year, there have been daily articles in every paper in India about how Government's is not giving clearances to businesses to start, how x/y/z is holding up projects worth lakhs of crores, etc, etc.

The muscular India is simply garnishing on top the main food which BJP is offering - that is economy and development.

A virtual slap to you for saying this.

dont tag me again.

 

[HariPrasad]

The amount of hate from adversaries make us all believe that he is indeed the right choice.

They are not simply adversaries but enemies.

 

[Contrarian]

A virtual slap to you for saying this.

dont tag me again.

Um... I didnt get what exactly are you pissed about?

 

[HariPrasad]

Recently, I saw that Advani said about Modi that he is a good event manager. Does the country need a leader or an event manager?

Nitish Kumar


Poor Nitish do not loose any chance to comment on Modi. Modi has no time to reply to this idiot.

 

[IND151]

I hope BJP wins the election, but someone else becomes PM.

Modi's victory in election will be a testament and confirmation of our claims, that majority of indians are racist india is an extremist hindu state, not a secular country as most indians like to falsely claim.

If he gets elected, the reason will be his promises and agenda, which revolves around progress and prosperity of India.

 

[Developereo]

The muscular India is simply garnishing on top the main food which BJP is offering - that is economy and development.

I don't know the details of different Indian states, but I believe there is some debate about which states are performing the best depending on which metrics you use. It is not a foregone conclusion that Modi's Gujarat is the standard bearer.

What it means is that it is not merely economics which is driving Modi's popularity -- his brash personality and appeal to the other factors I mentioned is also a big part of the personality cult surrounding him.

 

[Contrarian]

I don't know the details of different Indian states, but I believe there is some debate about which states are performing the best depending on which metrics you use. It is not a foregone conclusion that Modi's Gujarat is the standard bearer.

It sort of is.
Almost all the States which were topping the growth charts were in NDA - either BJP or BJP allied parties.
There is one exception to this - Maharashtra - run by a Congress allied party - NCP.

However, in Decadal growth rates - Gujarat is the only major State of India to have witnessed 10% plus growth. Even Maharashtra lagged behind after being ahead for a couple of years.
The highest/maximum number of manufacturing jobs added in India over the last decade has been in Gujarat.

His main appeal - his base if you will - comes from being called the best Chief Minister of India or most capable CM of India.

The next best Chief Ministers are also BJP or allied to BJP - Shivraj Chauhan of Madhya Pradesh, Raman Singh of Chhatisgarh, Manohar Parrikar of Goa.

What it means is that it is not merely economics which is driving Modi's popularity -- his brash personality and appeal to the other factors I mentioned is also a big part of the personality cult surrounding him.

True, but that comes after he proved himself as probably the best administrator in India.
You can notice this clearly using a simple parameter
BJP's campaign in 1998 - the last time they won - was wholely and solely centered around the Ram mandir. They won it all on just one issue.

This time, they have mentioned Ram mandir only once in their manifesto and they are not really even speaking about it. Its all about development and stopping corruption.
Its simple really, people today will accept anyone who they think will decisively lead India out of the mess it is in. The mess here is economic stagnation. There is despondency and Congress govt looks to be absolutely incapable to everyone.


Everything else - a resplendant, mighty, amazing, etc, etc India derives from economic prosperity and jobs. People are voting for that.

The added values - having a mighty muscular India only confirms to the voters that they are making the right choice, his brash personality to voters means he is decisive on any issue, that is not afraid to take tough decisions, unlike MMS who looks to be a puppet and ineffective on any issue.

Its all feeding in.

 

[jandk]

I don't know the details of different Indian states, but I believe there is some debate about which states are performing the best depending on which metrics you use. It is not a foregone conclusion that Modi's Gujarat is the standard bearer.

What it means is that it is not merely economics which is driving Modi's popularity -- his brash personality and appeal to the other factors I mentioned is also a big part of the personality cult surrounding him.

Faulty logic. Perception does not have to match reality. Most Indians believe that Modi is pro development and he's the most capable administrator for the job. This may not match reality but the perception exists.

 

[Friei Indien]

Narendra Modi, a man with a massacre on his hands, is not the reasonable choice for India

It looks likely that Modi will be India's next prime minister. But his apologists can't dismiss the facts about his rule as chief minister of Gujarat

The world's biggest election began yesterday: one in which more than half a billion Indians are set to turn out to vote over the next six weeks. Polls suggest that the Congress party will take an unprecedented pummelling – which makes Narendra Modi, leader of the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata party, frontrunner to be India's next prime minister.

Modi bears a responsibility for some of the worst religious violence ever seen in independent India – but there's nothing like looking like a winner to attract apologists. And the standard apology for Modi comes in two parts. First, there is normally an acknowledgement that the chief minister of Gujarat bears some vague responsibility for the orgy of killing and rape that engulfed his state in 2002 – but, um, wasn't that all a long time ago? And hasn't he behaved himself since – or, as the FT put it yesterday, done his best to "downplay tensions" between Hindus and Muslims? This is followed by pointing to Gujarat's rapid economic development and an appeal: shouldn't the rest of India enjoy some Modinomics? Or, as Gurcharan Das, the former head of Procter & Gamble India, put it in a piece for the Times of India last weekend: "There will always be a trade-off in values at the ballot box and those who place secularism above demographic dividend are wrong and elitist."

Given the enormity of the allegations against Modi, this is frankly pathetic. First, the Gujarat massacres have not safely been consigned to the past; whatever the claims of his supporters either in India or over here (such as the Labour MP Barry Gardiner who invited him to Britain last year), there has been no "clean chit" for Modi. Courts in India are still hearing allegations against him. And second, the much-talked about Gujarati model may have brought lots of money to the state, but it has ended up in relatively few hands, without yielding improvements in health, infant mortality, or even workers' wages.

Let's look at the carnage of 2002 first. On 27 February that year, a train coach carrying Hindu pilgrims caught fire in Godhra station in Gujarat. Fifty-eight people died. Within hours and without a shred of evidence, Modi declared that the Pakistani secret services had been to blame; he then had the charred bodies paraded in the main city of Ahmedabad; and let his own party support a state-wide strike for three days. What followed was mass bloodshed: 1,000 dead on official estimates, more than 2,000 by independent tallies. The vast majority of those who died were Muslim. Mobs of men dragged women and young girls out of their homes and raped them. In 2007, the investigative magazine Tehelkarecorded boasts from some of the ringleaders. One, Babu Bajrangi, boasted of how he slit open the womb of a pregnant woman.

When BJP supporters try to dismiss the pogrom of 2002 as ancient and contested history, what they are trying to erase is that epic, shameful violence. Other allegations have been made about Modi's direct involvement in the carnage, but the ones I have listed above aren't contested by any serious observer.

Now try this thought experiment. Imagine if, in the wake of 7/7, which killed 52 civilians, Ken Livingstone had not behaved with his commendable dignity, but had immediately blamed the tube attacks on jihadis; paraded the bodies up and down Pall Mall; and then declared a capital-wide strike. As Suresh Grover, the human-rights campaigner working for the families of three British citizens who were killed in Gujarat in 2002, puts it, he would have probably been arrested for wilful neglect of duty, hate speech and for inciting violence. Modi, by contrast, said a couple of years ago that he felt the same pain over the bloodshed as a passenger in a car that has just run over a puppy. He referred to the refugee camps set up to shelter some of the 200,000 Muslims who lost their homes as "baby-making factories". And his minister for women is now serving 28 years in prison for murder and conspiracy to murder.

All of this is routinely summed up in journalistic shorthand that refers to the chief minister as being a "polarising" or "controversial" figure.

As for the so-called Gujarati development model, there isn't one. The state has enjoyed growth but very little development. Under Modi, it has lagged behind the other major states in India in tackling infant mortality, in reducing poverty, and in increasing literacy. In 2006, there were even more undernourished children in Gujarat than in 1993, which Modi has claimed is because middle-class girls are "beauty-conscious".

Big businesses back Modi, but that is because he gives them so much. As a string of reports from the independent Comptroller and Auditor General, among other bodies, points out, his administration has sold off public land dirt cheap to industrialists, provided companies with energy at below-market prices and given them loans at an interest rate of 0.1%. They in return have provided him with sponsorship and rides in their private jets. As Atul Sood, a professor at Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi, has written: "The governance model of Gujarat is all about aggressive implementation of development on behalf of the big private investor. It is a model that works for the rich and against the poor."

And this somehow represents an improvement for India.


Narendra Modi, a man with a massacre on his hands, is not the reasonable choice for India | Aditya Chakrabortty | Comment is free | The Guardian

he looks like a shit person on his face value, let alone what garbage is holding inside..[/quote
still Modi will be our next pm. any problems?