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Greeks giving up their children forever

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Very sad after all the Greeks did for mankind they have come to this :cry:
 
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And the Zionists forced this nation to give up buying Iranian oil and instead rely on more expensive Zionists oil cartels to provide it with other sources.
 
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And the Zionists forced this nation to give up buying Iranian oil and instead rely on more expensive Zionists oil cartels to provide it with other sources.
No one forced Greece to do anything. Zionist blah blah blah. Give it a rest, what the hell has this got to do with Israel?
The majority of people in Europe don't give a second thought about Israel.
 
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Greece is basically a failed economy. Thanks to the misinformed decisions of their leaders.

It is a very sad development indeed.

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And the Zionists forced this nation to give up buying Iranian oil and instead rely on more expensive Zionists oil cartels to provide it with other sources.

Really? I didn't remember Israel being part of the EU.
 
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I heard that on radio yesterday and thought: WTF?

Aren't you germans tired of being in the EU? All these joker countries are holding you guys back.
 
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Aren't you germans tired of being in the EU? All these joker countries are holding you guys back.

Well, to be honest, we did make a lot of money being in the EU. The problem is, Greek and other Southern European countries are just not competitive enough, even against our relatively high wages. German engineering is second to none and our products are loved and admired worldwide, even Japanese snops have to give in, when they see a Porsche or BMW.

On the other hand wages in Germany have been stagnating since the introduction of the Euro in order to remain competitive as neither we cannot intervene in the value of the Euro. Germany raised the productivity at the same time capped wage growth, the other raised their wages without raising the productivity. We also lent them a lot of money to buy our products, but the profit was not redistributed to the workers. We are somehow in a similar but worse situation than the Chinese. They too lent a huge amount of money to the US to buy Chinese products, but at least their wages has been rising steadily and they are less dependent on export as we do (over 30% of GDP).

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Ein bisschen :)

Cool, ich lese auch immer Die Zeit - die beste Zeitung Deutschlands. :)
 
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Well, to be honest, we did make a lot of money being in the EU. The problem is, Greek and other Southern European countries are just not competitive enough, even against our relatively high wages. German engineering is second to none and our products are loved and admired worldwide, even Japanese snops have to give in, when they see a Porsche or BMW.

On the other hand wages in Germany have been stagnating since the introduction of the Euro in order to remain competitive as neither we cannot intervene in the value of the Euro. Germany raised the productivity at the same time capped wage growth, the other raised their wages without raising the productivity. We also lent them a lot of money to buy our products, but the profit was not redistributed to the workers. We are somehow in a similar but worse situation than the Chinese. They too lent a huge amount of money to the US to buy Chinese products, but at least their wages has been rising steadily and they are less dependent on export as we do (over 30% of GDP).

What would be in the benefit of Germany in the long run? What would the pro and cons be for leaving the EU?
 
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What would be in the benefit of Germany in the long run? What would the pro and cons be for leaving the EU?

The EU is not only an economic bloc, but also a security bloc. I'd rather see the EU leaving Nato and form our own military organisation, but eh US does everything to not let this happen. The EU countries are also our biggest trading partners (more than 60 %) and making business with other EU countries is like making business within Germany without import/export tax, exchange fee, tons of formalities, etc. We pretty much sit in the same boat. When I travel to another Euro country, I don't need to change money and it's also easy for me to compare the prices between home and abroad.
 
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