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Greece fumes over new Spain-Turkey armament deal

I couldnt care less. I never claimed that Greece is a superpower, maybe you are not fluent in english, so i pardon you.

As for our soldiers, still sad that all your soldiers became fertilizer on greek soil at Marathon and Plataea? And food for the fish at Salamis.

As for the spain / turkey deal, i dont care either. Spsin needs money, let them get money, beside that there is nothing more behind it.



When did i say Greece is a superpower? Never. I assume your english is not the best, so you misunderstood.
Don't let the Australian-Iranian provoke you. Forget him.

I told them you didn't say anything about Greece being a superpower. The problem is that some countries in the EU don't care about what Erdogan does. Like you said,they want money. The Italians and the Spanish don't care. We'll see. The Turkish people are complaining about the food prices,the salaries and the bills they have to pay and the Sultan wants a 4th drilling ship,a second aircraft carrier and more S-400s. Meanwhile Kilicdaroglu said on TV that the government only has 35 billion dollar reserves right now.

When Turks were upset about our deals,the people who now mock us,were silent.


An article entitled “Neighbor what are you preparing” is hosted today by the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet, which is accompanied by a photo of Greek-American exercises. The headline of the newspaper is “inspired” by the questions asked by the Turkish president in the meeting he had with his American counterpart, Joe Biden.
 
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Don't let the Australian-Iranian provoke you. Forget him.

I told them you didn't say anything about Greece being a superpower. The problem is that some countries in the EU don't care about what Erdogan does. Like you said,they want money. The Italians and the Spanish don't care. We'll see. The Turkish people are complaining about the food prices,the salaries and the bills they have to pay and the Sultan wants a 4th drilling ship,a second aircraft carrier and more S-400s. Meanwhile Kilicdaroglu said on TV that the government only has 35 billion dollar reserves right now.

When Turks were upset about our deals,the people who now mock us,were silent.


An article entitled “Neighbor what are you preparing” is hosted today by the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet, which is accompanied by a photo of Greek-American exercises. The headline of the newspaper is “inspired” by the questions asked by the Turkish president in the meeting he had with his American counterpart, Joe Biden.
Settle down guys, we are just having fun. I have a lot Greek friends. Yassou.
 
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Don't let the Australian-Iranian provoke you. Forget him.

I told them you didn't say anything about Greece being a superpower. The problem is that some countries in the EU don't care about what Erdogan does. Like you said,they want money. The Italians and the Spanish don't care. We'll see. The Turkish people are complaining about the food prices,the salaries and the bills they have to pay and the Sultan wants a 4th drilling ship,a second aircraft carrier and more S-400s. Meanwhile Kilicdaroglu said on TV that the government only has 35 billion dollar reserves right now.

When Turks were upset about our deals,the people who now mock us,were silent.


An article entitled “Neighbor what are you preparing” is hosted today by the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet, which is accompanied by a photo of Greek-American exercises. The headline of the newspaper is “inspired” by the questions asked by the Turkish president in the meeting he had with his American counterpart, Joe Biden.


Dont worry, im not provoked by @Darius77

I actually like Australia. Was there in 2018 and hope i can visit again.

Im just laughing about some here believing that a deal between Spain and Turkey would bother us. Sanchez is a socialist, and when you look at spanish polls he is soon history. He just does what all socialist do, betray.
 
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Oh dear NATO nations taking opposing sides and views. Doesn't bode well.
 
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Oh dear NATO nations taking opposing sides and views. Doesn't bode well.
NATO should have been disbanded after the Cold War,but it's not practical I guess. All that money,weapons and effort. All those bases and agreements and geopolitical interests.
 
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Dont worry, im not provoked by @Darius77

I actually like Australia. Was there in 2018 and hope i can visit again.

Im just laughing about some here believing that a deal between Spain and Turkey would bother us. Sanchez is a socialist, and when you look at spanish polls he is soon history. He just does what all socialist do, betray.
I know, every nation is out for themselves. The European unity is a joke and they fought two world wars or tribal wars in the last century. Even today NATO has much internal strife, the Spaniards claim Gibraltar, which is really Algerian, the Brits with Brexit have trade and fishing disputes with the froggies, the Turks and Greeks and so on. The world is heading towards anarchy and chaos in the transition period. BTW, Greeks think more like Persians and we have a lot similarities in culture.
 
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I know, every nation is out for themselves. The European unity is a joke and they fought two world wars or tribal wars in the last century. Even today NATO has much internal strife, the Spaniards claim Gibraltar, which is really Algerian, the Brits with Brexit have trade and fishing disputes with the froggies, the Turks and Greeks and so on. The world is heading towards anarchy and chaos in the transition period. BTW, Greeks think more like Persians and we have a lot similarities in culture.


It has always been like this and will never change, game of thrones. Just look what happened when Alexander died, his "friends" went to each others throats and last time i checked, the persian court was also a snake pit where evryone was at evryones throat. ;)

So we see this deal with spain without emotion, spain is no big player in the eastern med. They need money, they get money but it changes nothing.
 
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Spain was under Muslim Berber/Arab rule for 700 years plus. The name Gibraltar is derived from Arabic: جبل طارق‎, romanized: Jabal Ṭāriq, lit. 'Mount of Tariq' (named after the 8th-century Moorish military leader Tariq ibn Ziyad). That continues to be its name in Arabic. It has also been suggested that the name is a contraction of the Arabic: جبل على الطريق‎ jabal ʽalā aṭ-ṭarīq ('mountain on the way'). Most of the rulers of Spain originated in present day Algeria or Morocco.
 
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Spain was under Muslim Berber/Arab rule for 700 years plus. The name Gibraltar is derived from Arabic: جبل طارق‎, romanized: Jabal Ṭāriq, lit. 'Mount of Tariq' (named after the 8th-century Moorish military leader Tariq ibn Ziyad). That continues to be its name in Arabic. It has also been suggested that the name is a contraction of the Arabic: جبل على الطريق‎ jabal ʽalā aṭ-ṭarīq ('mountain on the way'). Most of the rulers of Spain originated in present day Algeria or Morocco.
But then the Reconquista took place. Now the Brits have it and don't wanna give it up. They seem extremely keen on keeping Gibraltar for themselves.

Anyway,apparently the Spanish Foreign Minister is coming to Athens to give explanations.

If I remember correctly,during the whole 2019-2020 events in Libya and the provocations in the Aegean and Evros,the Italians and Spanish were the only ones neutral or helping Erdogan diplomatically. While the French,Austrians,Hungarians,Poles and some others were supporting us during these incidents and the were againt the GNA government in Libya,the Spanish,the Germans and sometimes the Italians,were silent. That played a big role in choosing the future frigate.
 
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Wait a minute Spain doesnt even have a Carrier ?

Spains navy is shocking

I understand Italy but Spain?

ok they have Navantia but its not even a great ship builder

should have asked Japan or South Korea
 
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Wait a minute Spain doesnt even have a Carrier ?

Spains navy is shocking

I understand Italy but Spain?

ok they have Navantia but its not even a great ship builder

should have asked Japan or South Korea
No, Spain has an assualt ship Juan Carlos 1.
 
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No, Spain has an assualt ship Juan Carlos 1.


Juan Carlos himself was an assault ship against women until he was forced into exile few years ago xD Guess they sold him to Turkey.

Btw Algeria was once part of the Roman Empire. The way you say Gibraltar belogs to spain, one can say entire Algeria belongs to Rome.
 
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France is milking Greec with all that weapons, but asks other countries not to cooperate with Turkey and earn billions fomr Greece. Is Greec going to give the money they miss like Spain? Greec begged Germany to stop the Reis class sub project, if Germany did that kind thing it would cost them billions of Euro.

Spain will join Turkish navy project, Germans should ask Greece to fund ther industry from now on :p: . O sorry France is milking, they ask for 1 frigatte almost 1 billion euro ahahahah.

O Greece begged to Ukrain stop selling engines, who is going to buy Ukrain engines Greece?

LoL....
 
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France is milking Greec with all that weapons, but asks other countries not to cooperate with Turkey and earn billions fomr Greece. Is Greec going to give the money they miss like Spain? Greec begged Germany to stop the Reis class sub project, if Germany did that kind thing it would cost them billions of Euro.

Spain will join Turkish navy project, Germans should ask Greece to fund ther industry from now on :p: . O sorry France is milking, they ask for 1 frigatte almost 1 billion euro ahahahah.

O Greece begged to Ukrain stop selling engines, who is going to buy Ukrain engines Greece?

LoL....
Initial price was about 1 billion Euros per ship. We waited 2 years and now we're getting 3 for about 2 billion with full support and weapons.
There's a difference between asking and begging. Turks seem to think that everyone else is "begging",but it was Erdogan who went to see Biden like a beggar. And then Putin. And both times he left like a beggar. It was Erdogan who kept asking for a meeting with Biden.

You think France is milking us? We got pretty darn good deals from France. It's the Indians who are being milked.

Funny thing is that Erdogan's asking for a second aircraft carrier,before the first one is even ready. He bought a 4th drilling ship when he already has 3 and doesn't know what to do with them,just moves them around here and there a bit for show. Meanwhile,the prices are rising,economy is collapsing,the lira reached a new low and you dream of aircraft carriers and bases in Niger and Somalia. But no...poor Greec milk by Frank
 
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