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India has drawn inspiration from the wall coming up on the West Bank and the Berlin Wall that symbolised Cold War to plan a 10-metre high embankment along the 198-km stretch of international border that separates Jammu from Pakistan.

The security wall, being erected to keep infiltrators out, will be higher and wider than both the Berlin Wall and the serpentine barrier that Tel Aviv is creating. It will be 135 feet wide and pass through 118 villages in the districts of Jammu (72), Kathua (17) and Samba (29).

Although there is no official estimate yet on the total cost, the home ministry will fund the project, which will be handled by the Border Security Force. The project spells revival of an idea mooted a few years ago after the September 27 attack on the police and army by two Fidayeen militants, who had infiltrated from across the border.

Instead of brick and mortar that went into the making of the walls in Berlin and Israel, the proposed embankment will use earth excavations to create a parallel trench, making movement almost impossible.

Yet, not everyone is convinced that the wall will fulfil its purpose and keep intruders out. "We have to be alive to what's happening. The wall will not deter those attempting intrusion from across the border. We have to reciprocate strongly whenever our troops are attacked," said deputy National Security Adviser Satish Chandra.

Security expert Brigadier Gurmeet Kanwal agreed with this assessment, advocating a tough response. "The time, effort and cost involved in erecting this wall is not worth the effort. The best answer to deal with crossborder activities is to launch strikes in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir," he said.

About 150 militants are currently active in Jammu & Kashmir, according to experts, who added the rise in the number of clashes at the border this year indicated an increase in the number of attempts at Pakistanengineered infiltrations.

Work has begun on the security wall. Revenue papers for designated land in 86 villages have been processed for a formal no-objection certificate (NoC) from the state government and a joint demarcation for land falling in 44 villages is likely to start shortly. Once the land is demarcated, BSF will pay the compensation and take it over.

"In 10 villages we still require the NoC from local inhabitants and the MLA," said Jammu's divisional commissioner Shant Manu said, adding, "In certain cases, farmers are not ready to part with the 135 feet wide land that BSF requires." Earlier, the plan was to acquire 45-ft wide land but the requirement has been changed to 135-ft, Manu said.

The plan is to create a safety corridor between the floodlit fence, already in place, and the hinterland by creating yet another barrier in between so that if the first line of defence fails, the second will make movement impossible.

This area is more popular among spies and smugglers from both sides than militants. At the peak of militancy when shelling was routine, BSF decided to erect a fence and the work started formally in 2000 after the Kargil war. The contract for creating the double-layer fence deep inside the Indian side was given to the CPWD.

But enthusiasm waned after the Pakistani Rangers started targeting the men and machines at work. As the number of injured CPWD workers rose, work stopped.

The BSF is more confident this time, a person familiar with the matter said, arguing that since the embankment is being raised well inside Indian territory work should be safe from the rangers. But there are plans to inform the rangers before work starts and once the land issue is settled.

There are 12-feet high twin fences running parallel to each other with an eight-foot gap in the middle filled with coils of razor-sharp concertina wire. Besides, there are thermal imagers to make the fence almost impregnable.

The entire fence is floodlit. On August 21, 2011, NASA's earth observatory detected this "line of lights with a distinctly orange hue" suggesting it was "more continuous and brighter than most highways" in India and Pakistan.

Most of the fencing was completed after the ceasefire agreement between India and Pakistan in 2003. By then, six BSF men had lost their lives and 60 had been injured. But this time experts are less worried about manmade obstacles.

The fence laid inside the territory, somewhere between 1.5 km and 5 km from the actual border, could prove to be a deterrent if not an impregnable structure, they say.

While infiltrators have learnt to cut the wires and get in, nature is proving to be a much bigger challenge. Heavy snow decimates the LoC fencing year after year and now floods could be a new threat. This August, about 800 metre of the fence was washed away.

Even as the establishment hopes the embankment will end security worries in the area, the BSF is confronting two immediate challenges. First, it needs to find an agency that can execute the project. And second, it is looking for a technological solution to the marshy 10 km stretch.

Masood Hussain/ Srinagar With inputs from Dipanjan Roy Chaudhury

Great Wall of India: Centre plans 10m high embankment along Jammu-Pakistan border - Page2 - The Economic Times
 
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not a bad idea i guess..is it possible to electrify the steel columns in the wall??
 
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Great Wall of India: Centre plans 10m high embankment along Jammu-Pakistan border


India has drawn inspiration from the wall coming up on the West Bank and the Berlin Wall that symbolised Cold War to plan a 10-metre high embankment along the 198-km stretch of international border that separates Jammu from Pakistan.

The security wall, being erected to keep infiltrators out, will be higher and wider than both the Berlin Wall and the serpentine barrier that Tel Aviv is creating. It will be 135 feet wide and pass through 118 villages in the districts of Jammu (72), Kathua (17) and Samba (29).

Although there is no official estimate yet on the total cost, the home ministry will fund the project, which will be handled by the Border Security Force. The project spells revival of an idea mooted a few years ago after the September 27 attack on the police and army by two Fidayeen militants, who had infiltrated from across the border.

Instead of brick and mortar that went into the making of the walls in Berlin and Israel, the proposed embankment will use earth excavations to create a parallel trench, making movement almost impossible.

Yet, not everyone is convinced that the wall will fulfil its purpose and keep intruders out. "We have to be alive to what's happening. The wall will not deter those attempting intrusion from across the border. We have to reciprocate strongly whenever our troops are attacked," said deputy National Security Adviser Satish Chandra.

Security expert Brigadier Gurmeet Kanwal agreed with this assessment, advocating a tough response. "The time, effort and cost involved in erecting this wall is not worth the effort. The best answer to deal with crossborder activities is to launch strikes in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir," he said.

About 150 militants are currently active in Jammu & Kashmir, according to experts, who added the rise in the number of clashes at the border this year indicated an increase in the number of attempts at Pakistanengineered infiltrations.

Work has begun on the security wall. Revenue papers for designated land in 86 villages have been processed for a formal no-objection certificate (NoC) from the state government and a joint demarcation for land falling in 44 villages is likely to start shortly. Once the land is demarcated, BSF will pay the compensation and take it over.

"In 10 villages we still require the NoC from local inhabitants and the MLA," said Jammu's divisional commissioner Shant Manu said, adding, "In certain cases, farmers are not ready to part with the 135 feet wide land that BSF requires." Earlier, the plan was to acquire 45-ft wide land but the requirement has been changed to 135-ft, Manu said.

The plan is to create a safety corridor between the floodlit fence, already in place, and the hinterland by creating yet another barrier in between so that if the first line of defence fails, the second will make movement impossible.

This area is more popular among spies and smugglers from both sides than militants. At the peak of militancy when shelling was routine, BSF decided to erect a fence and the work started formally in 2000 after the Kargil war. The contract for creating the double-layer fence deep inside the Indian side was given to the CPWD.

But enthusiasm waned after the Pakistani Rangers started targeting the men and machines at work. As the number of injured CPWD workers rose, work stopped.

The BSF is more confident this time, a person familiar with the matter said, arguing that since the embankment is being raised well inside Indian territory work should be safe from the rangers. But there are plans to inform the rangers before work starts and once the land issue is settled.

There are 12-feet high twin fences running parallel to each other with an eight-foot gap in the middle filled with coils of razor-sharp concertina wire. Besides, there are thermal imagers to make the fence almost impregnable.

The entire fence is floodlit. On August 21, 2011, NASA's earth observatory detected this "line of lights with a distinctly orange hue" suggesting it was "more continuous and brighter than most highways" in India and Pakistan.

Most of the fencing was completed after the ceasefire agreement between India and Pakistan in 2003. By then, six BSF men had lost their lives and 60 had been injured. But this time experts are less worried about manmade obstacles.

The fence laid inside the territory, somewhere between 1.5 km and 5 km from the actual border, could prove to be a deterrent if not an impregnable structure, they say.

While infiltrators have learnt to cut the wires and get in, nature is proving to be a much bigger challenge. Heavy snow decimates the LoC fencing year after year and now floods could be a new threat. This August, about 800 metre of the fence was washed away.

Even as the establishment hopes the embankment will end security worries in the area, the BSF is confronting two immediate challenges. First, it needs to find an agency that can execute the project. And second, it is looking for a technological solution to the marshy 10 km stretch.

Masood Hussain/ Srinagar With inputs from Dipanjan Roy Chaudhury

Great Wall of India: Centre plans 10m high embankment along Jammu-Pakistan border - Page2 - The Economic Times
 
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Apparently, third thread on the topic. :o:
even more will come up sweetu as GOI has finali decided to counter the ever lasting suppli routes for there assets via soft borders and pakistanies are burning over it :taz::chilli::taz:.....:rofl::rofl:
 
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even more will come up sweetu as GOI has finali decided to counter the ever lasting suppli routes for there assets via soft borders and pakistanies are burning over it :taz::chilli::taz:.....:rofl::rofl:

Then we'll have Sticky for it. :lol:
 
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I don't get it - wall made of Earth excavations - wall made of Earth as in mud or something else? If it's earth wouldn't it get washed away in torrential rains?
 
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Watch how India progresses towards completely en-caging herself within. Why this seize mentality?Why this fear? Btw,Changez Khan and his Mongols were not stopped by the Chinese wall. It would be better and productive if instead India invested in efforts to improve relations with neighbors -- sincerely.
 
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To stop infiltration and continuous ceasefire violations from the Pakistani side, India is now all set to raise a 10-metre high embankment running along the 197-Km stretch of the International Border in the Jammu sector.

The serpentine wall will pass through 118 villages in Jammu district.


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Seen from the Pakistani side, the border will be demarcated clearly by first a fence, a trench and then the 10-metre high wall. A strip of land as wide as 135 feet is being acquired for the purpose, to accommodate several bunkers and outposts for the border security forces.

Earth excavators are set to be used to dig the parallel trench, which will make infiltration virtually impossible, said sources.

The International Border in Jammu and the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir have both remained tense throughout this year.

The inspiration for this wall seems to have been drawn from a similar wall in the West Bank, erected by Israeli authorities who say the wall has served as a deterrent for violence perpetuated by the Palestinian militants.

The wall constructed by India is supposed to be higher than the Berlin Wall which separated Europe during the Cold War. It will be the first of its kind between the two neighboring countries.

More than 200 ceasefire violations were reported through 2013 in different places across Jammu and Kashmir, most of them in the area along which the Government of India is now planning to build the embankment.

On Oct 23, early this year, Pakistani rangers fired at more than 50 locations in Samba sector which was described by security forces as the most extensive ceasefire violation in one night in the past two decades.

Director General of Border Security Forces (BSF) Subash Joshi said in New Delhi that the BSF was waiting for the government of Jammu and Kashmir to acquire land along the stretch.

“We have identified the land. The embankment will be followed by the fence,” he said.

Under the Land Acquisition Act of the Jammu and Kashmir government, the project also has to be given a green signal by 24 MLAs, who will have to give a no-objection certificate to the state government.

“For the wall to come we have already identified and acquired land in 29 villages,” said Divisional Commissioner (Samba) R K Verma, said. A similar exercise has been initiated in Kathua too.

Sources say the decision has been taken by the authorities with much persistence by the BSF in view of the 2014 withdrawal of NATO troops from Afghanistan. The violence in the troubled state of Jammu and Kashmir has seen an unexpected spurt this year.

“It is only possible to construct a wall of this size in certain places in the state. It cant be done throughout the state. Jammu being the easiest one, it will help to stop the infiltration and drug smuggling also, a home Ministry official told Firstpost.


Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/india/cros...-in-jammu-1245321.html?utm_source=ref_article
 
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Why don't you guys check whether a similar thread is posted beforehand or not......before posting.......what's the hurry....

sick and tired of so many threads running on one topic....
 
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Why don't you guys check whether a similar thread is posted beforehand or not.....before posting.....what's the hurry....

sick and tired of so many threads running on one topic....


The auto check is not working though i checked manual but didn't find any such post in this section
 
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