Govt turning Kashmir into separate state: BJP

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Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

NEW DELHI: India’s main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) said on Saturday that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s government had turned Kashmir into a separate state as well as a “separate nation”.

The BJP criticised the ruling United Progressive Alliance’s (UPA) proposals for resolving the Kashmir issue, including the pre-1953 status, demilitarisation, autonomy and self-rule proposals.

“If the UPA’s policies on Kashmir are accepted, the state will be separated,” the BJP said in a political resolution adopted on the second day of its 3-day national executive meeting in Bhopal.

Accusing the government of not having a serious political thought on Kashmir, it expressed concern that “while Kashmir continues to bear the brunt of cross-border terrorism, the UPA and its allies have come out with the unacceptable hypothesis that Kashmir’s constitutional linkage with the rest of the country must be further weakened”.

BJP spokesman Rajiv Pratap Rudy, who released the resolution here late on Saturday, said speakers in the national executive meeting held behind closed doors lashed out at the Left for virtually incapacitating the government and ridiculed the government for clinging to office even after getting “paralysed”. iftikhar gilani

Brilliant... Criticizing a government for trying to resolve an issue.

 

[PakistaniPatriot]

Hmmm.. Does this mean that since Kashmir is a separate nation it can declare itself part of Pakistan.

 

[haviZsultan]

Hmmm.. Does this mean that since Kashmir is a separate nation it can declare itself part of Pakistan.

Woah, you're talking like they would!

 

[NadeemAhmad]

Changing the constitution to give Kashmir more autonomy will not bring them any closer to freedom.
The only way to weaken India's hold on Kashmir will be to reduce the powers given to the Indian Army, and reduce troop numbers.
Inshallah with the reduction in Pakistani Mujahideens, we will see the Kashmiris themselves rise up in revolt. Only a full fledged revolt against the Indian imperialist state will bring them freedom once and for all.
In addition, Pakistani media must highlight the issue with full enthusiasm. Very few people in the world know of the atrocities committed against the Kashmiris. As long as the Indian media dominates the airspace, the cries of the Kashmiris will not be heard.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

It may not give the Kashmiris independence from India, but if they can have complete autonomy over their affairs, with no Indian Army presence, then that is a good and positive step.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

The Indian Army presence is essential for foreign inspired terrorists.

Inshallah with the reduction in Pakistani Mujahideens, we will see the Kashmiris themselves rise up in revolt.

A pipedream!

As long as the Indian media dominates the airspace, the cries of the Kashmiris will not be heard.

Foreign journalists and tourist abound Kashmir. So, the where is the Indian media dominating? As if the Indian media is any better than the foreign media! They all are interested in a 'juicy' story!

 

[Bull]

Hmmm.. Does this mean that since Kashmir is a separate nation it can declare itself part of Pakistan.

Thats the hidden agenda, to annexe it.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The Indian Army presence is essential for foreign inspired terrorists.

It will have to be limited to the LOC for any sustainable progress with the separatists.

It could be argued that the "presence" of troops itself is a catalyst for violence.

Not everything has to occur simultaneously - a future demilitarization of AK and IK, with open borders between the two, would be something to work towards.

 

[dabong1]

Thats the hidden agenda, to annexe it.

No its not hidden,its the aspiration of the people of kashmir.

 

[Bull]

It will have to be limited to the LOC for any sustainable progress with the separatists.

It could be argued that the "presence" of troops itself is a catalyst for violence.

Not everything has to occur simultaneously - a future demilitarization of AK and IK, with open borders between the two, would be something to work towards.

Kashmir had witnessed earlier demilitarisation by India ( partly) but what u said never happened. Terrorists has taken that oppurtunity to regroup and unleash more terror forcing India to bring back the withdrawed troops.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Kashmir had witnessed earlier demilitarisation by India ( partly) but what u said never happened. Terrorists has taken that oppurtunity to regroup and unleash more terror forcing India to bring back the withdrawed troops.

Times are different - state policies are different. Economic interests are driving policies in both countries to varying degrees.

 

[Bull]

Times are different - state policies are different. Economic interests are driving policies in both countries to varying degrees.

Well how can you guarantee that its different. It was even rosier just before kargil, trust is lost. Pakistan back stabbed India with kargil immediatly after a credible peace talks, it wont be restored back.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Well how can you guarantee that its different. It was even rosier just before kargil, trust is lost. Pakistan back stabbed India with kargil immediatly after a credible peace talks, it wont be restored back.

You are looking at the situation from a very unidimensional and Pakistan centric POV. The Kashmiris and the indigenous freedom movement are important parties to the conflict. Demilitarization will not be done to "please Pakistan" - it will happen because of "trust" between India and the Kashmiris, and a genuine desire to undo the wrongs of the past. Obviously Pakistan will have to be a party to such moves, and incremental steps (possibly as part of a plan to move towards final settlement of the dispute), from moving solely to the LOC and eventually BOTH SIDES moving their armies out of AK and IK, will allow the Kashmiris to breathe easy for once. Time will tell where that leads in the long run.

 

[Bull]

Times are different - state policies are different. Economic interests are driving policies in both countries to varying degrees.

Im no fan of Pakistani economy that grow at 7% on the back of a 9% inflation, but im a fan of KSE.

 

[Bull]

You are looking at the situation from a very unidimensional and Pakistan centric POV. The Kashmiris and the indigenous freedom movement are important parties to the conflict. Demilitarization will not be done to "please Pakistan" - it will happen because of "trust" between India and the Kashmiris, and a genuine desire to undo the wrongs of the past. Obviously Pakistan will have to be a party to such moves, and incremental steps (possibly as part of a plan to move towards final settlement of the dispute), from moving solely to the LOC and eventually BOTH SIDES moving their armies out of AK and IK, will allow the Kashmiris to breathe easy for once. Time will tell where that leads in the long run.

Even when there is peace with Pakistan, india would have considerable armed presence in JK, due to its strategic value. Its not only Pakistan but also China. the only area where both can carry out a simultaneous attack.