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The State Bank of Pakistan and the federal government have decided to ban the use of all cryptocurrencies, according to a report submitted to the Sindh High Court (SHC) on Wednesday.

The SHC has been hearing a case about digital currencies. The status of cryptocurrencies in Pakistan has been in limbo in the absence of laws and rules to regulate the use of these digital currencies for trade. On October 20, the Sindh High Court told the federal government to regulate cryptocurrencies within three months. The court directed the government to form a committee headed by the federal secretary of finance to determine the legal status of cryptocurrencies.

The court had instructed the authorities to come up with a report on the use of cryptocurrencies. The report was submitted to the Sindh High Court on Wednesday. The report said that cryptocurrency is illegal and could not be used for trade. The report names at least eleven countries including China and Saudi Arabia that have banned cryptocurrencies. The report also refers to the recent investigation by the FIA against crypto exchanges such as Binance and OctaFx and the risk these exchanges posed for the investors.

The Sindh High Court has ordered that the report be sent to the finance and law ministries for a final decision on the legal status of the cryptocurrencies. The law and finance ministries will determine if a ban against cryptocurrencies would be within the ambit of the Constitution. The would also work out a legal framework.

A two-member bench headed by Justice Karim Khan Agha heard the case. SBP Deputy Governor Seema Kamil submitted the 38-page report recommending that cryptocurrencies be declared illegal. The report says that cryptocurrency is a virtual business that could be used to finance acts of terrorism and to launder money.

An important question was raised during the hearing: What would be the status of cryptocurrencies in the intervening months before a final decision is made. The court said that the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) and other agencies would continue to act according to their rules. It urged the court to ban the “unauthorized operations” of cryptocurrency exchanges and impose penalties against them “as some other countries have done.”

Petitioner Waqar Zaka pleaded with the court that cryptocurrencies be declared legal as a large number of Pakistanis were interested in them. The court will next hear the case on April 12.

State Bank of Pakistan takes a clear position

The report submitted to the Sindh High Court indicates a clear position taken by the central bank for the first time. In April 2021, SBP Governor Raza Baqir had said the central bank is studying cryptocurrencies and their potential for bringing transactions happening off the books into a regulatory framework.

In an interview with CNN’s Julia Chatterley, he said, “We are studying that [Central Bank Digital Currency] very carefully.” He said that it will not only boost the central bank’s efforts for financial inclusion but also allow it to make progress in its fight towards anti-money laundering and countering terrorism financing. However, before this key statement, the central bank had prohibited the transactions in digital currencies and declared them ‘illegal tender’.

In a circular issued to banks in 2018, SBP warned the banks that virtual currencies like Bitcoins, Lite Coin, Pakcoin, etc. are not legal tender issued or guaranteed by the Government of Pakistan. The circular also said the SBP has not allowed any individual or entity to issue, sell, purchase and exchange virtual currencies. The central bank directed the banks to refrain from trading, holding and investing in such currencies, and to report any such transactions to the Financial Monitoring Unit of the central bank.

High stakes

Cryptocurrencies have attracted thousands of investors from Pakistan and they have reportedly invested $20 billion in digital currencies, according to Federation of Pakistan Chambers of Commerce and Industry President Nasir Hayat Magoon. In December 2021, thousands of online investors in Pakistan lost Rs1 billion to a crypto scam in an attempt to make a quick buck. The scam sparked an FIA investigation against Binance, whose wallet had been used to transfer funds to scammers.



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What a ridiculous position to take. Crypto is a emerging, it's unrefined, it's unregulated, but why make it illegal? Most of the world hasn't. Let people make money, just ask them to pay taxes.
 
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The State Bank of Pakistan and the federal government have decided to ban the use of all cryptocurrencies, according to a report submitted to the Sindh High Court (SHC) on Wednesday.

The SHC has been hearing a case about digital currencies. The status of cryptocurrencies in Pakistan has been in limbo in the absence of laws and rules to regulate the use of these digital currencies for trade. On October 20, the Sindh High Court told the federal government to regulate cryptocurrencies within three months. The court directed the government to form a committee headed by the federal secretary of finance to determine the legal status of cryptocurrencies.

The court had instructed the authorities to come up with a report on the use of cryptocurrencies. The report was submitted to the Sindh High Court on Wednesday. The report said that cryptocurrency is illegal and could not be used for trade. The report names at least eleven countries including China and Saudi Arabia that have banned cryptocurrencies. The report also refers to the recent investigation by the FIA against crypto exchanges such as Binance and OctaFx and the risk these exchanges posed for the investors.

The Sindh High Court has ordered that the report be sent to the finance and law ministries for a final decision on the legal status of the cryptocurrencies. The law and finance ministries will determine if a ban against cryptocurrencies would be within the ambit of the Constitution. The would also work out a legal framework.

A two-member bench headed by Justice Karim Khan Agha heard the case. SBP Deputy Governor Seema Kamil submitted the 38-page report recommending that cryptocurrencies be declared illegal. The report says that cryptocurrency is a virtual business that could be used to finance acts of terrorism and to launder money.

An important question was raised during the hearing: What would be the status of cryptocurrencies in the intervening months before a final decision is made. The court said that the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) and other agencies would continue to act according to their rules. It urged the court to ban the “unauthorized operations” of cryptocurrency exchanges and impose penalties against them “as some other countries have done.”

Petitioner Waqar Zaka pleaded with the court that cryptocurrencies be declared legal as a large number of Pakistanis were interested in them. The court will next hear the case on April 12.

State Bank of Pakistan takes a clear position

The report submitted to the Sindh High Court indicates a clear position taken by the central bank for the first time. In April 2021, SBP Governor Raza Baqir had said the central bank is studying cryptocurrencies and their potential for bringing transactions happening off the books into a regulatory framework.

In an interview with CNN’s Julia Chatterley, he said, “We are studying that [Central Bank Digital Currency] very carefully.” He said that it will not only boost the central bank’s efforts for financial inclusion but also allow it to make progress in its fight towards anti-money laundering and countering terrorism financing. However, before this key statement, the central bank had prohibited the transactions in digital currencies and declared them ‘illegal tender’.

In a circular issued to banks in 2018, SBP warned the banks that virtual currencies like Bitcoins, Lite Coin, Pakcoin, etc. are not legal tender issued or guaranteed by the Government of Pakistan. The circular also said the SBP has not allowed any individual or entity to issue, sell, purchase and exchange virtual currencies. The central bank directed the banks to refrain from trading, holding and investing in such currencies, and to report any such transactions to the Financial Monitoring Unit of the central bank.

High stakes

Cryptocurrencies have attracted thousands of investors from Pakistan and they have reportedly invested $20 billion in digital currencies, according to Federation of Pakistan Chambers of Commerce and Industry President Nasir Hayat Magoon. In December 2021, thousands of online investors in Pakistan lost Rs1 billion to a crypto scam in an attempt to make a quick buck. The scam sparked an FIA investigation against Binance, whose wallet had been used to transfer funds to scammers.



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What a ridiculous position to take. Crypto is a emerging, it's unrefined, it's unregulated, but why make it illegal? Most of the world hasn't. Let people make money, just ask them to pay taxes.
Because the biggest function of cryptocurrency is money laundering. And it also consumes a lot of electricity and energy. If a country's local currency are weak, it will also lead to foreign exchange outflow.
 
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The State Bank of Pakistan and the federal government have decided to ban the use of all cryptocurrencies, according to a report submitted to the Sindh High Court (SHC) on Wednesday.

The SHC has been hearing a case about digital currencies. The status of cryptocurrencies in Pakistan has been in limbo in the absence of laws and rules to regulate the use of these digital currencies for trade. On October 20, the Sindh High Court told the federal government to regulate cryptocurrencies within three months. The court directed the government to form a committee headed by the federal secretary of finance to determine the legal status of cryptocurrencies.

The court had instructed the authorities to come up with a report on the use of cryptocurrencies. The report was submitted to the Sindh High Court on Wednesday. The report said that cryptocurrency is illegal and could not be used for trade. The report names at least eleven countries including China and Saudi Arabia that have banned cryptocurrencies. The report also refers to the recent investigation by the FIA against crypto exchanges such as Binance and OctaFx and the risk these exchanges posed for the investors.

The Sindh High Court has ordered that the report be sent to the finance and law ministries for a final decision on the legal status of the cryptocurrencies. The law and finance ministries will determine if a ban against cryptocurrencies would be within the ambit of the Constitution. The would also work out a legal framework.

A two-member bench headed by Justice Karim Khan Agha heard the case. SBP Deputy Governor Seema Kamil submitted the 38-page report recommending that cryptocurrencies be declared illegal. The report says that cryptocurrency is a virtual business that could be used to finance acts of terrorism and to launder money.

An important question was raised during the hearing: What would be the status of cryptocurrencies in the intervening months before a final decision is made. The court said that the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) and other agencies would continue to act according to their rules. It urged the court to ban the “unauthorized operations” of cryptocurrency exchanges and impose penalties against them “as some other countries have done.”

Petitioner Waqar Zaka pleaded with the court that cryptocurrencies be declared legal as a large number of Pakistanis were interested in them. The court will next hear the case on April 12.

State Bank of Pakistan takes a clear position

The report submitted to the Sindh High Court indicates a clear position taken by the central bank for the first time. In April 2021, SBP Governor Raza Baqir had said the central bank is studying cryptocurrencies and their potential for bringing transactions happening off the books into a regulatory framework.

In an interview with CNN’s Julia Chatterley, he said, “We are studying that [Central Bank Digital Currency] very carefully.” He said that it will not only boost the central bank’s efforts for financial inclusion but also allow it to make progress in its fight towards anti-money laundering and countering terrorism financing. However, before this key statement, the central bank had prohibited the transactions in digital currencies and declared them ‘illegal tender’.

In a circular issued to banks in 2018, SBP warned the banks that virtual currencies like Bitcoins, Lite Coin, Pakcoin, etc. are not legal tender issued or guaranteed by the Government of Pakistan. The circular also said the SBP has not allowed any individual or entity to issue, sell, purchase and exchange virtual currencies. The central bank directed the banks to refrain from trading, holding and investing in such currencies, and to report any such transactions to the Financial Monitoring Unit of the central bank.

High stakes

Cryptocurrencies have attracted thousands of investors from Pakistan and they have reportedly invested $20 billion in digital currencies, according to Federation of Pakistan Chambers of Commerce and Industry President Nasir Hayat Magoon. In December 2021, thousands of online investors in Pakistan lost Rs1 billion to a crypto scam in an attempt to make a quick buck. The scam sparked an FIA investigation against Binance, whose wallet had been used to transfer funds to scammers.



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What a ridiculous position to take. Crypto is a emerging, it's unrefined, it's unregulated, but why make it illegal? Most of the world hasn't. Let people make money, just ask them to pay taxes.
It's illegal in China, most powerful economy of the world
 
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So is having more than 2 kids. We've got to do whats best for us.

China has no shortage of jobs. If our people want to invest in a speculative, unregulated environment, why not let them?
Because it leads to mass losses for investors as crypto is a scam
 
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and how they will implement this ban ?

1 . they will ask PTA to block binance, okex etc .. ( the crypto exchanges ) -

solution - VPN

2. they will algorithmically track and trace p2p transactions and arrest people / debit lock their bank accounts

solution - cash trading setups

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all in all - this will be the most khassi ban ever !

there isnt much the govt can do , block chain itself cannot be blocked in pakistan


Because it leads to mass losses for investors as crypto is a scam


internet is not bad
its use case is bad

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i can give you 10 crypto positives !
 
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Yet another sign of how incompetent this govt is. The agents of global financial mafia are sitting in SBP and they would never allow crypto. For a country like Pakistan begging for few billion dollars, crypto presents a great opportunity. Instead the morons are banning it. Minning should have be allowed and facilitated, we can earn crypto by run of the river. Not a single sincere and smart forward looking leader in this whole govt. Keep eating sood and living in misery while few elites keep rich.
 
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Because it leads to mass losses for investors as crypto is a scam

So? People are stupid enough to fall for pyramid schemes all the time, what are they going to do - take thier money away from them?

Even the forex argument doesn't make sense. Ultimately if I'm buying bitcoin and selling it, the profit made comes back into my Pakistani accounts at some point.

The money laundering aspect is tricky, but even then when people by crypto the money goes to an exchange so banks can track who's got what money going out. Nobody buys crypto with cash.

Govt could simply add capital gains tax on crypto investments by tracking who's buying crypto and then asking them to submit their portfolio as part of thier returns. When someone cashes out - they pay capital gains.
 
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1 . they will ask PTA to block binance, okex etc .. ( the crypto exchanges ) -

solution - VPN

2. they will algorithmically track and trace p2p transactions and arrest people / debit lock their bank accounts

solution - cash trading setups

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all in all - this will be the most khassi ban ever !

there isnt much the govt can do , block chain itself cannot be blocked in pakistan





internet is not bad
its use case is bad

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i can give you 10 crypto positives !
Crypto produce nothing of value. Scarcity of a currency is not "value"
Yet another sign of how incompetent this govt is. The agents of global financial mafia are sitting in SBP and they would never allow crypto. For a country like Pakistan begging for few billion dollars, crypto presents a great opportunity. Instead the morons are banning it. Minning should have be allowed and facilitated, we can earn crypto by run of the river. Not a single sincere and smart forward looking leader in this whole govt. Keep eating sood and living in misery while few elites keep rich.
No we can't. Pakistan's electric grid cannot handle crypto mining
Akin to the prolonged ban on YouTube in Pakistan. The default of Pakistani state has been “if we don’t understand something, we will just ban it.” @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @JamD
So China and 8 other countries are idiots lol
So? People are stupid enough to fall for pyramid schemes all the time, what are they going to do - take thier money away from them?

Even the forex argument doesn't make sense. Ultimately if I'm buying bitcoin and selling it, the profit made comes back into my Pakistani accounts at some point.

The money laundering aspect is tricky, but even then when people by crypto the money goes to an exchange so banks can track who's got what money going out. Nobody buys crypto with cash.

Govt could simply add capital gains tax on crypto investments by tracking who's buying crypto and then asking them to submit their portfolio as part of thier returns. When someone cashes out - they pay capital gains.
Crypto is a scam. It has no intrinsic value. Scarcity of a currency is not a value
 
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@Mangus Ortus Novem
“Ghuttan”, “Lack of breath”, We are held hostage in our own country by these filthy mafias in the name of Parties, Judges or IMF, They cannot let the poor get richer, Because this is where they will lose their power.

The only peaceful solution to end this misery is to die, World is a f*****ing nightmare, Endless, Cruel, Tyrannic.
Crypto produce nothing of value. Scarcity of a currency is not "value"

No we can't. Pakistan's electric grid cannot handle crypto mining

So China and 8 other countries are idiots lol

Crypto is a scam. It has no intrinsic value. Scarcity of a currency is not a value
Gold is just another rock among several others present in the universe, What value does it have ?

Moronic ancestors gave this thing value and the world fights over it today.

Same goes for Crypto, If a stupid stone can rule the world, Why not some line of codes or logs ?
 
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Crypto is a scam. It has no intrinsic value. Scarcity of a currency is not a value

Crypto currency is a Hi-Tech Ponzi scheme.

All Crypto Currencies will go to zero one day.

Crypto Currencies will only have value if they are backed by Countries' Central banks.
 
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Crypto produce nothing of value. Scarcity of a currency is not "value"

No we can't. Pakistan's electric grid cannot handle crypto mining

So China and 8 other countries are idiots lol

Crypto is a scam. It has no intrinsic value. Scarcity of a currency is not a value
Neither does gold or any fiat currency.
 
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@Mangus Ortus Novem
“Ghuttan”, “Lack of breath”, We are held hostage in our own country by these filthy mafias in the name of Parties, Judges or IMF, They cannot let the poor get richer, Because this is where they will lose their power.

The only peaceful solution to end this misery is to die, World is a f*****ing nightmare, Endless, Cruel, Tyrannic.

Gold is just another rock among several others present in the universe, What value does it have ?

Moronic ancestors gave this thing value and the world fights over it today.

Same goes for Crypto, If a stupid stone can rule the world, Why not some line of codes or logs ?
Now what's the uses of crypto?
Crypto currency is a Hi-Tech Ponzi scheme.

All Crypto Currencies will go to zero one day.

Crypto Currencies will only have value if they are backed by Countries' Central banks.
Anything can have a fake / artificial value but I am more interested in uses of crypto. Can you name any?
Neither does gold or any fiat currency.
Both gold and fiat currencies have tons of uses. What's the uses of crypto?
 
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