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Official Google Blog: A new approach to China

Like many other well-known organizations, we face cyber attacks of varying degrees on a regular basis. In mid-December, we detected a highly sophisticated and targeted attack on our corporate infrastructure originating from China that resulted in the theft of intellectual property from Google. However, it soon became clear that what at first appeared to be solely a security incident--albeit a significant one--was something quite different.

First, this attack was not just on Google. As part of our investigation we have discovered that at least twenty other large companies from a wide range of businesses--including the Internet, finance, technology, media and chemical sectors--have been similarly targeted. We are currently in the process of notifying those companies, and we are also working with the relevant U.S. authorities.

Second, we have evidence to suggest that a primary goal of the attackers was accessing the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists. Based on our investigation to date we believe their attack did not achieve that objective. Only two Gmail accounts appear to have been accessed, and that activity was limited to account information (such as the date the account was created) and subject line, rather than the content of emails themselves.

Third, as part of this investigation but independent of the attack on Google, we have discovered that the accounts of dozens of U.S.-, China- and Europe-based Gmail users who are advocates of human rights in China appear to have been routinely accessed by third parties. These accounts have not been accessed through any security breach at Google, but most likely via phishing scams or malware placed on the users' computers.

We have already used information gained from this attack to make infrastructure and architectural improvements that enhance security for Google and for our users. In terms of individual users, we would advise people to deploy reputable anti-virus and anti-spyware programs on their computers, to install patches for their operating systems and to update their web browsers. Always be cautious when clicking on links appearing in instant messages and emails, or when asked to share personal information like passwords online. You can read more here about our cyber-security recommendations. People wanting to learn more about these kinds of attacks can read this U.S. government report (PDF), Nart Villeneuve's blog and this presentation on the GhostNet spying incident.

We have taken the unusual step of sharing information about these attacks with a broad audience not just because of the security and human rights implications of what we have unearthed, but also because this information goes to the heart of a much bigger global debate about freedom of speech. In the last two decades, China's economic reform programs and its citizens' entrepreneurial flair have lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese people out of poverty. Indeed, this great nation is at the heart of much economic progress and development in the world today.

We launched Google.cn in January 2006 in the belief that the benefits of increased access to information for people in China and a more open Internet outweighed our discomfort in agreeing to censor some results. At the time we made clear that "we will carefully monitor conditions in China, including new laws and other restrictions on our services. If we determine that we are unable to achieve the objectives outlined we will not hesitate to reconsider our approach to China."

These attacks and the surveillance they have uncovered--combined with the attempts over the past year to further limit free speech on the web--have led us to conclude that we should review the feasibility of our business operations in China. We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China.

The decision to review our business operations in China has been incredibly hard, and we know that it will have potentially far-reaching consequences. We want to make clear that this move was driven by our executives in the United States, without the knowledge or involvement of our employees in China who have worked incredibly hard to make Google.cn the success it is today. We are committed to working responsibly to resolve the very difficult issues raised.

Posted by David Drummond, SVP, Corporate Development and Chief Legal Officer
 
“Links to pornographic material”

Chinese bloggers call for boycott of the Internet

BEIJING: Chinese authorities on Thursday accused Internet giant Google of violating the country’s laws even as access to the widely used website remained disrupted for users in China since Wednesday evening.

In recent weeks, the American search engine has come under heavy criticism from Chinese authorities, who have accused the website of providing links to pornographic material in its search results.


Last week, the Chinese government suspended some of the website’s services and had summoned officials from Google China asking them to “clear out” material that was allegedly pornographic. On Wednesday, access to the search engine and its popular e-mail service, Gmail, was blocked across China.


As of Thursday evening, access to the website had returned for some but remained disrupted for many users here and in Shanghai.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang did not comment on whether the disruptions had been caused by the government, but he did accuse the website of spreading “large amounts of vulgar content that is lascivious and pornographic” and of violating Chinese laws.

The government has, in recent months, intensified its crackdown on pornography. The China Internet Illegal Information Reporting Centre (CIIRC), a government-sponsored Internet watchdog, has shut down more than 4,000 websites since January for alleged pornography.


Last month, the government announced a controversial plan to install Internet-filtering software on all computers sold in China after July 1. The plan has been widely criticised by many Internet users who see the move as an effort by the government to widen censorship. Access to many websites and blogs, particularly those discussing politically sensitive subjects, is restricted in China.

Chinese bloggers are rallying the country’s 298 million “netizens” to protest the recent moves and have called for a nationwide boycott of the Internet on July 1.

The crackdown has also threatened to escalate into a diplomatic row, with the U.S. voicing concerns over China’s software plan.

U.S. Commerce Secretary Gary Locke, in a statement to Chinese officials, accused China of “putting companies in an untenable position by requiring them, with virtually no public notice, to pre-install software that appears to have broad-based censorship implications.”
 
To the guy who posted this article, if you didnt merely post this article o mud-sling its only fair that you include in your post "why" china is blocking out google
 
China blocks 15,000 **** websites - People's Daily Online Jan 13 2010

More than 15,000 pornographic websites, including over 11,000 mobile WAP sites, have been shut down or blocked in 2009, an official from the General Administration of Press and Publication (GAPP) said Tuesday.

"More than 1.5 million items of lewd content have been deleted from the Internet" during the same period, said Mao Xiaomao, vice director of the GAPP's anti-illegal or banned publications bureau.

Among 65.96 million illegal publications confiscated last year, 1.44 million had pornographic contents, Mao said.

Sun Jungong, spokesman of the Supreme People's Court, said China's courts have concluded trials of 1,273 cases of ****-related criminal cases in the first ten months of last year, involving a total of 1,580 people.

The Supreme People's Court was making efforts to improve relevant legal interpretation on mobile-related pornographic cases, which was expected to be introduced in the near future, according to Sun.

In a legal interpretation issued by the Supreme People's Court and Supreme People's Procuratorate in 2004, makers and distributors of pornographic materials sent through the Internet, mobile phones and other communication devices could face penalties as severe as life imprisonment.

China intensified its fight against online **** recently.

On Dec. 8, the country launched a new round of crackdown on spreading pornographic contents through Internet or mobile WAP sites to "purify the social environment." The campaign is expected to run to May. :smitten::pakistan::china:

Source: Xinhua
 
To the guy who posted this article, if you didnt merely post this article o mud-sling its only fair that you include in your post "why" china is blocking out google

Did you even read the article and "comprehend" what its about?

Its an offcial Google statement. Not an article for "mud-slinging"


And China isn't blocking google out. Google is saying that it will stop filtering anti-chinese results (that is was doing before) in response to cyber attacks from China. Moreover, Google may shutdown its operations if the Chinese govt. does not agree.

Nothing to do with pornographic links. And oh yeh, maybe you should inform the chinese bloggers that an easier way would be to NOT search for **** on google. Then you will not get such links ;)
 
Chinese bloggers are rallying the country’s 298 million “netizens” to protest the recent moves and have called for a nationwide boycott of the Internet on July 1.

Huh? How will that hurt anyone but the Chinese internet users themselves? Maybe the rest of the world should build a firewall around China. Let China run its own internet with its own rules. Just stay inside the Kingdom of Heaven and talk to each other. No one needs to access anything in China anyway. We wouldn't miss them at all.
 
All Hail Hitler! All Hail the Aryan Master Race! All Hail White Power!

Keep it up "truth"-seeker.... after all, anything "Chinese" can't be good..... the world is much, MUCH more than one particular 'master' race.....:cheesy::angel:

Thought you'd like that one! Pretty good hit wasn't it! :victory:
 
All Hail Hitler! All Hail the Aryan Master Race! All Hail White Power!

Keep it up "truth"-seeker.... after all, anything "Chinese" can't be good..... the world is much, MUCH more than one particular 'master' race.....:cheesy::angel:

Sino, whats you expected from an "Old frog in the well"

Who will be the last frog in the well?

By David Gosset form Asia Times

At the end of the 18th century, Lord Macartney, the ambassador of the British king George III, had been instructed to request in Beijing permission to send a British representative to the Chinese imperial court and to create the conditions for the expansion of trade between the Qing Dynasty and the British kingdom. The written answer of the Chinese emperor Qianlong, who reigned over the empire for 59 years (the People's Republic is 60 this year) is, in a sense, a gem:

Why then should foreign nations advance this utterly unreasonable request to be represented at my court? If you assert that your reverence for Our Celestial dynasty fills you with a desire to acquire our civilization, our ceremonies and code of laws differ so completely from your own that, even if your envoy were able to acquire the rudiments of our civilization, you could not possibly transplant our manners and customs to your alien soil ... I have but one aim in view, namely, to maintain a perfect governance and to fulfill the duties of the state: strange and costly objects do not interest me.

After centuries of complacent Sinocentrism behind the Great Wall and secretive imperial politics within the Forbidden City, China is still often perceived as self-centered, its mandarins as being aloof and self-satisfied. Such a persistent representation misses some fundamental features of 21st century China: an unprecedented level of opening-up and transparency, a thirst for a better understanding of the foreign world and a desire not only to modernize a huge and ancient country but to become a source of modernity.

Consequently, the traditional Chinese separation between the outside (wai), or the foreign, and the inside (nei), or "us", has been considerably reduced. Some elements of the Chinese society might feel uneasy about this change, but China's opening up to the world does not equate to the loss of the Chinese identity; it is about the transformation of the idea of Chineseness and the revival of the Chinese civilization.

The common and vivid Chinese locution "jing di zhi wa", or the frog at the bottom of the well, is used to deride a mix of parochialism, narrow-mindedness and complacency. In an increasingly interconnected and interdependent global village, the expression does not apply to China. In a 2009 survey conducted by the Washington DC-based Pew Research Center, it appears that 93% of the Chinese respondents had a good opinion of international trade. The same institute estimates that 88% of the Chinese believe that their country's economic situation is good (17% for the US, 14% for France and 10% for Japan).

In the Chinese collective psyche, opening-up, progress and confidence reinforce each other. The conjunction of these characteristics partly explains why the visitor to Beijing, Shanghai or Chongqing is often astonished by the energy which circulates, indeed, in most Chinese megalopolis. In 2009, the Pew center inquired about the level of satisfaction in 25 nations and the study shows that 87% of the Chinese are satisfied with the way things are going in their country (36% for the US, 27% for France and 25% for Japan). Any reflection on China's political system, economy, business or diplomacy has to integrate this high level of confidence in sharp contrast with the general apprehension which dominates in the Western countries.

China's top leadership adopts a constructive global perspective. Last month, on the occasion of the 64th session of the United Nations General Assembly, Chinese President Hu Jintao made three highly significant addresses which indicate that Beijing not only looks at itself as an integrated member of the world community but as a co-architect of the 21st-century world order.

At the UN climate change summit, Hu's speech title was explicit: "Working together to meet the challenges of climate change." Besides, the main theme of Hu's address at the UN Security Council summit on nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament was the necessity to "work together to build a world with universal security". Moreover, at the UN General Assembly, Hu concluded his speech by a reference to the ideal of cosmopolitanism: "We are called upon by our times to unite as one and work together for mutual benefit and win-win progress like passengers in the same boat."

Even on Tiananmen Square on the occasion of the 60th anniversary of the People's Republic of China, a ceremony, above all, targeted at a domestic audience, Hu mentioned his vision of a "harmonious world", "world peace" and China's contributions to mankind.

The Chinese president is in phase with the Chinese society. As Zhao Qizheng, the chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), noted in a recent article, Chinese citizens have been transformed into "global citizens".

The effects of this evolution are considerable. The world community which hitherto was mainly a Western exclusive club has now 1.3 billion new active constituents open to the idea of a global order but who expect to be adequately represented in its regulatory or political bodies and equitably depicted in its mainstream media.

One can certainly find China's new global citizens in the following segments of the Chinese society which give also an idea of the magnitude of China's opening to the world.

Around 300 million Chinese people study or speak English. Events like the Beijing Summer Olympic Games last year or the Shanghai World Expo in 2010 stimulate the desire to learn the language of international exchanges. China's largest English school organization, New Oriental, is traded on the New York Stock Exchange. The unorthodox Li Yang, who is at the head of the language school Crazy English, is a celebrity in mainland China.

With more than 3 million copies, Reference News (Cankao xiaoxi) is the newspaper with the largest circulation in the People's Republic. Reference News' loyal readers appreciate the fact that its content is mainly made of translated articles published all around the world. More generally, from July 2008 to June 2009, translated books accounted for 20% of China's overall book market by title output and 30% of sales.

As of June 2009, with 338 million Internet users, China ranks first in the world for the number of netizens. By comparison, India has only 81 million internauts.

While the number of foreign students in China reached a record high of 223,499 in 2008, the number of Chinese studying abroad expanded to 200,000 in 2009. Since Deng Xiaoping's opening-up policy in 1978, almost 1.5 million Chinese chose to study abroad.
In 2007, about 37 million Chinese traveled overseas. The World Tourism Organization predicts that 100 million Chinese tourists will travel abroad every year by 2020.

If more than 600,000 Chinese engineers graduate every year from institutions of higher education, one should also be aware that around 30 million Chinese are now learning piano and 10 million violin. Tests to enter the top Chinese conservatories attract nearly 200,000 students a year. The Ukrainian virtuoso, Isaac Stern, portrayed in the 1980 documentary From Mao to Mozart anticipated China's massive opening-up to the beauties of Western classical music.

The late Spanish diplomat and composer, Delfin Colome, was right to argue in a thoughtful essay that "the future of classical music depends on Asia". And Robert Sirota, the distinguished American conductor and president of the Manhattan School of Music, is more specific: "I honestly think that in some real sense the future of classical music depends on developments in China in the next 20 years."

The Chinese people's intense interest for the world does not mean that they forget or reject their own tradition. On the contrary, for most of the Chinese intellectuals or the Chinese global citizens, the opening up to foreign cultures is an invitation to the reinterpretation of China's tradition. In fact, China's curiosity for the outside world is concomitant with a return to the Chinese tradition and a reflection on the idea of "Chineseness".

Can the West open itself to a Chinese renaissance as China opens itself to the world? If the West believes that it has nothing to learn from China, from its ancient wisdom, aesthetics, values, if the West, facing the overall success of the Chinese model, refuses to question its own assumptions about economic and political modernity, it simply takes the risk to end up as the last frog in the well.

David Gosset is director of the Euro-China Center for International and Business Relations at CEIBS, Shanghai, and founder of the Euro-China Forum. (Copyright 2009 David Gosset.)
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UAE's proxy server model very sophisticatedly blocks all pornography from websites including Google.

Meaning they don't influence Google but they've blocked the use of certain querystrings. I've done that setting up proxy servers for my company network as well. As soon as someone types anything related to Facebook/youtube/orkut in web address bar or certain search engines, they will get a blocked sign.

You need to keep a very detailed database and you can do it with or without Google's approval.
 
hey

Chinese don't know freedom means
they only see whatever govt like to show them
 
hey

Chinese don't know freedom means
they only see whatever govt like to show them


Yes, thats why Chinese were able to see the true face of the so-called

next super-power in the future;

(1) Extreme poverty.

(2) Well establish Caste-system=greatest tool ever for oppressing

and discrimination, human rights abuses through Caste.

(3)Biggest slums on the planet=live example of a "Hell-Hole" period

:smitten::pakistan::china:
 

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