'God Will Provide', Believe 3 Pakistani Men Who Sired 96 Children

[Armstrong]

Easy there, I'm planning on being less productive than that and taking it easy. Where have you been by the way, I haven't seen you around?

A lot of the old-timers have left so whereas I drop by every now and then....I kinda miss the old gang.

 

[El Sidd]

I don't follow your point in that case, how is making the argument that a very high birth rate or a too low birth rate is unsustainable, tantamount to a human rights violation?

The argument itself is not. Never said that. Sustainability itself has sustain in it.

Its a human rights issue if the state or politics gets involved.

Forming opinions of the elite to choke the mediocre efficiently.

 

[Jungibaaz]

The argument itself is not. Never said that. Sustainability itself has sustain in it.

Its a human rights issue if the state or politics gets involved.

Forming opinions of the elite to choke the mediocre efficiently.

Right, and I've already said that the state shouldn't enforce anything in that way. I suppose this goes back my earlier post. It's fine for us to argue about the pros and cons for the country and for society, but even I agree that the state shouldn't enforce anything in this matter.

 

[El Sidd]

Right, and I've already said that the state shouldn't enforce anything in that way. I suppose this goes back my earlier post. It's fine for us to argue about the pros and cons for the country and for society, but even I agree that the state shouldn't enforce anything in this matter.

Anything pro Pakistan you will find me in agreement with you. For betterment of living standards for all there can be disagreement on which way one likely should choose.

That's basic rules of engagement.

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

Lets go in circles. Chasing cars? Around our head?
No matter what i will still defend one of his basic human rights and the fact God surely would provide.
Moving along... Why do you think the world can't accommodate 10 billion people?

Couldnt say tbh. Just a number put up by scientists after decades of research. Surely they know a thing or two. Also forget 10 bil, the world isnt accomodating 7 bil as 1.5 bil are malnourished. People with rights are also people with responsibilities , and having 70 children isnt exactly responsible or virtuous.

 

[El Sidd]

Couldnt say tbh. Just a number put up by scientists after decades of research. Surely they know a thing or two. Also forget 10 bil, the world isnt accomodating 7 bil as 1.5 bil are malnourished. People with rights are also people with responsibilities , and having 70 children isnt exactly responsible or virtuous.

There is no way of saying this definitively. Proper fair distribution of resources coupled with scientific use can easily support twice the population as of now.

Its all just a deliberation if see the theological side.

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

There is no way of saying this definitively. Proper fair distribution of resources coupled with scientific use can easily support twice the population as of now.

Its all just a deliberation if see the theological side.

The number was put up in the "ideal earth" scenario. Where everyone has equal wealth and privelege and everyone is sharing resources. Theres simply no need of having more than 3 or 4 kids.

 

[El Sidd]

The number was put up in the "ideal earth" scenario. Where everyone has equal wealth and privelege and everyone is sharing resources. Theres simply no need of having more than 3 or 4 kids.

Ask the Japs and Chinese how their experiences were flirting with nature


Better still ask the Germans who had to take in refugees.

There is no need to worry about this. Its been going since time began. Get to some other practical things the sooner the better.

And i can tell you now we won't ever agree on equal wealth theory nor standard of living theory. Lol

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

Ask the Japs and Chinese how their experiences were flirting with nature


Better still ask the Germans who had to take in refugees.

There is no need to worry about this. Its been going since time began. Get to some other practical things the sooner the better.

And i can tell you now we won't ever agree on equal wealth theory nor standard of living theory. Lol

And yes the population has been going up since the beginning of time, but it took thousands of years for the population to reach 1 bil but only 150 years for it to reach 7.5 bil. We have one planet. Global unemployment is rising. Resources are going down. Fresh water bodies are being depleted. Fossil fuels are getting burnt out. Global warming is going up at an exponential rate. Youre saying none of these problems are associated with over population ? You still believe having 70 kids is justified ?

 

[MultaniGuy]

Those reproducing males are misguided idiots!

How will he take care of their offspring!

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

Those reproducing males are misguided idiots!

How will he take care of their offspring!

Who cares about offspring when they're less your children and more actually just field labour.

 

[El Sidd]

And yes the population has been going up since the beginning of time, but it took thousands of years for the population to reach 1 bil but only 150 years for it to reach 7.5 bil. We have one planet. Global unemployment is rising. Resources are going down. Fresh water bodies are being depleted. Fossil fuels are getting burnt out. Global warming is going up at an exponential rate. Youre saying none of these problems are associated with over population ? You still believe having 70 kids is justified ?

I believe in his right to decide that for himself.

Justified to what? By whom? Whose policing this?

Who cares about offspring when they're less your children and more actually just field labour.

Yes.
Parents are cruel.
Which ones the worse? Mother or father?

Those reproducing males are misguided idiots!

How will he take care of their offspring!

Thanks for the answer. Just like those who banned you? Lol

You a paralegal?

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

I believe in his right to decide that for himself.

Justified to what? By whom? Whose policing this?

lol you keep beating around the bush. Please just say yes or no to these questions.

Is over population a problem ?
Is Unemployment an issue in Pakistan ?
Can a father provide better for 70 children rather than 3 children ?
Is it a coincidence that countries with controlled population do better than a country where people have 70 children ?
Has no one with this many children ever faced food shortages ?
Is giving birth to children who will have a sub par life virtuous ?

 

[El Sidd]

lol you keep beating around the bush. Please just say yes or no to these questions.

Is over population a problem ?
Is Unemployment an issue in Pakistan ?
Can a father provide better for 70 children rather than 3 children ?
Is it a coincidence that countries with controlled population do better than a country where people have 70 children ?
Has no one with this many children ever faced food shortages ?
Is giving birth to children who will have a sub par life virtuous ?

No.
But its the state's problem not mine. That's why it's a responsibility not a way to serve the have nots.
Now meet me back here when you have completed the circle.

 

[Soumitra]

@El Sidd if you have time read the book Inferno by Dan Brown. Yes it is a fiction novel but it is based on some facts about the effects of overpopulation

You said why cant earth support 10 B people . The simple answer is that the resources are limited and all the problems in the world are directly propotional to the increase in population

Here is one of the graph from the book, this explains the corelation