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Chinese patients head to India for latest medicines after domestic crackdown
By Agencies – Global Times Source:Global Times Published: 2017/8/28 17:43:39 Last Updated: 2017/8/29 7:42:57
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Indian private hospitals gaining the trust of Chinese patients
○ More and more Chinese patients are traveling to India for medication and treatment, especially for liver diseases and cancer

○ They are attracted by India's cost-effective treatment and high-quality medical services

○ Some Chinese still hold biased attitudes toward India's medical sector
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Chinese patients in third- and fourth-tier cities seek medical treatment in India because the country provides high-quality services in private hospitals. Photo: IC
Hua Li (pseudonym) looked out of the window at the airport, her eyes full of hope. It was the 40-year-old's first trip abroad, and her destination was an unlikely one for a Chinese person who had never been abroad before: New Delhi.

14 years ago, Hua was infected with hepatitis C by a blood transfusion during surgery. Before the trip, she was already in the middle stage of liver fibrosis, which might eventually lead to cirrhosis and even liver cancer. Treatment in China was costly but ineffective.

Then she found companies that are willing to help Chinese patients like her seek treatment in India at a reasonable cost. In New Delhi, Hua was taken to one of India's best liver doctors in a private hospital and prescribed medication not yet available in China. Within four weeks, Hua's symptoms had vanished, and hepatitis could not be detected during a regular health check.

"The professionalism and cleanliness of India's private hospital is impressive. It's more like a hotel, unlike Chinese hospitals which are so crowded," Hua told Liaowang Institute, a Chinese think tank.

Hua is one of a growing number of not-so-wealthy sick Chinese traveling to India for medical treatment, attracted by its relatively low medical costs, wide range of medication to choose from and its internationally-proven medical expertise.

The growing demand has led to an increasing number of companies in China providing medical tourism services in India, targeting Chinese patients from third- and fourth-tier cities.

Pharmacy of the world

There are nearly 10 million hepatitis C patients in China, making it the nation with the most HCV infections. But the safest and most effective medication so far for hepatitis C, direct antiviral agents (DDAs), didn't enter China until this April due to the country's long and complicated drug approval process. DDAs have been proven to be at least 90 percent effective in curing the disease.

"Compared with the size of the hepatitis C-carrying population, many of those infected aren't aware that they have it, and the diagnosis and recovery rate have been continuously low. But actually, hepatitis C is completely curable," Wei Lai, head of the Hepatology Institute at Peking University, told the Southern Weekly.

While China sets strict barriers and hefty prices on imported drugs, India has long been known as the "pharmacy of the developing world," largely because the Indian government has granted compulsory licenses for expensive drugs so Indian manufacturers can produce these drugs without fear of being prosecuted under patent law.

According to the WHO, compulsory licensing is when a government allows someone to reproduce a patented product or process without the consent of the patent owner.

Glivec, a leukemia drug produced by Swiss pharmaceutical giant Novartis, for example, costs 23,500 yuan ($3,783) each month in China. Its Indian generic version Veenat, a drug produced by India's Natco Pharma which claims to have the same active ingredient and effects as Glivec, costs as little as just 200 yuan each month.

These generic versions are illegal in China because they are not officially approved. According to the country's drug administration laws, such drugs are regarded as counterfeit.

In the past, a lot of Chinese patients unable to afford the prices of imported drugs in China have tried to access cheaper Indian generic drugs through purchasing agents.

But as China has cracked down on the smuggling of these drugs in recent years, that channel has become more and more dangerous. This is what prompted patients like Hua to visit India herself.
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Healthy hospitality

Apart from cheaper and more advanced drugs, India is also known for the quality of services in its private hospitals.

India's healthcare system is marked by inequity. While those living under the poverty line have to endure limited access to medical care, a low doctor-patient ratio and poor sanitation in public hospitals, the middle and upper classes can enjoy quality treatment in private hospitals with doctors who have studied in Europe or the US.

Some of its best private hospitals are famous worldwide. Fortis Hospital Bannerghatta, a hospital in Bangalore, has been ranked as one of the top 10 hospitals in the world for medical tourists for five consecutive years by the Medical Travel Quality Alliance, an international organization that aims to improve quality in medical tourism.

According to the Medical Tourism Market Report 2015, India was "one of the lowest cost and highest quality of all medical tourism destinations; it offers wide variety of procedures at about one-tenth the cost of similar procedures in the United States."

The Indian government has also been trying to promote the market by liberalizing rules to make it "very easy" for foreign tourists to get a visa for medical treatment in India, the Times of India reported. The number of arrivals in the country on medical visas was 66,254 in 2014, which grew to 122,121 in 2015 and 177,972 in 2016.

For Chinese patients, the cost of a 3-day medical trip to India ranges from 30,000 to 50,000 yuan. One medical management company told the Global Times last year that they have so far organized over 20 group tours to India for patients with liver diseases, and the cost for each person is 40,000 to 45,000 yuan. That includes plane tickets, accommodation, medical checks, medication and a 12,000 yuan service fee.

While some Chinese patients choose to go to India with the help of agents, some choose to visit India on their own, which cuts costs further. They include Mr Liu, a man from North China's Hebei Province who was diagnosed with hepatitis C this February.

"Before I went to India, I did health checks in a big Chinese hospital. But the equipment in India's hospital seems to be more advanced, and they detected that I had cirrhosis in addition to hepatitis C," he told Liaowang Institute.

Some Indian pharmaceutical groups are even establishing Chinese branches to help facilitate Chinese patients' visits to India.

Still biased

Tapping the growing market, Nithin Devarajulu Palavalli, an Indian citizen who studied nanoengineering in Taiwan and Spain, founded a company providing Indian medical tourism services with his classmates after graduating from China's Cheung Kong Graduate School of Business in the mainland.

Palavalli is targeting patients in China's third- and fourth-tier cities. He told the Liaowang Institute that the majority of hepatitis C patients in China are in such cities, most of whom have never been abroad before.

However, since India is still generally believed by most Chinese to be poorer than China, many Chinese patients still hold biases against India's medical capability.

A Chinese patient used to consult Palavalli about the treatment of neuroblastoma, a cancer commonly found in the adrenal glands. While Palavalli told him that the cost of treatment in India is only one fifth of that in the US, but the patient still sold his house and borrowed money from relatives so that he could treat it in the US, just because he believed the medical treatment in the US is better.

But actually, Palavalli said over 40 percent of generic drugs sold on the US market are manufactured in India. Many top-level doctors in the US, too, are Indians.

The scandals and accidents that surround India's healthcare sector have also tarnished its international image. This month, for example, 70 children died within five days at a hospital in the northern city of Gorakhpur due to a lack of oxygen cannisters in the intensive care ward, international media reported.

Even though this happened in a public hospital in a rural area, tragedies like this can shake the Chinese public's confidence in India's medical system.

The lack of protection of patients is another key concern for foreign patients who are traveling to India, according to an article published by the Nikkei Asian Review. If accidents occur during a surgery, there are no laws to protect the patients' interest.

Despite these concerns, Naresh Trehan, chairman of the Medanta Medicity hospital, told the Nikkei Asian Review that he expects India's status as a medical tourism hub will continue to grow. "In the long run, these growth pangs are likely to give way to a steady and consistent flow of patients," he said.
 
It is good but it must be said that good Indian medical facilities are available to Indians and foreigners at a high price.

Bring money, get healthy.

On the NDTV India news channel there is a regular ad about blind people in India who remain blind not because there is no medical treatment for it but because they don't have money. The ad asks Indian citizens to donate money for some of these blindness cases when it should have been the government funding the treatments.
 
So, Its not just Pakistan which Prefers India fr its Health aCare, Its China as well !
It is good but it must be said that good Indian medical facilities are available to Indians and foreigners at a high price.

Bring money, get healthy.

On the NDTV India news channel there is a regular ad about blind people in India who remain blind not because there is no medical treatment for it but because they don't have money.

Ever heard of "Ayushmaan Bharat" ?

 
Ever heard of "Ayushmaan Bharat" ?


If that program is really successful why in year 2020 are there still cases of blindness, liver transplants etc which are not done because of inability of the patients to come up with the money ? Why still is there that blindness ad on NDTV India or the Ketto crowdsourcing ad on the internet for similar cases ?
 
US patients also go to India to get good treatment for a very cheap price. Indians don't pay patent fees for foreign drugs. Rich people from all over the world go to India to explore this advantage thus further deprive India's own poor population from getting decent medical service.
 
If that program is really successful why in year 2020 are there still cases of blindness, liver transplants etc which are not done because of inability of the patients to come up with the money ? Why still is there that blindness ad on NDTV India or the Ketto crowdsourcing ad on the internet for similar cases ?

Its like saying why we have so many Jobless despite MNREGA.

Whats your Point? MNREGA is failed ?
US patients also go to India to get good treatment for a very cheap price. Indians don't pay patent fees for foreign drugs. Rich people from all over the world go to India to explore this advantage thus further deprive India's own poor population from getting decent medical service.

But the fact is, some people ( unlike those Chinese who get treatment in 5 star indian Hotels aka Hospitals ) can only see dirt and garbage in India , using their opaque "ego" superpower mindset.

Fact is, In india healthcare is really affordable and has really improves leaps and bounds.

Our problem is Poverty , and health care accessiblity ( something common to INDIA AND CHIAN as demonstarted in the artcile ) , not the Indian health care itself.
 
Its like saying why we have so many Jobless despite MNREGA.

Whats your Point? MNREGA is failed ?

Let's stick to PM-JAY.

I searched in the PM-JAY website for "blindness" and it gave me this page but on going to that page there was no mention of "blindness".

There is the below text :
Benefit Cover Under PM-JAY
Benefit cover under various Government-funded health insurance schemes in India have always been structured on an upper ceiling limit ranging from an annual cover of INR30,000 to INR3,00,000 per family across various States which created a fragmented system. PM-JAY provides cashless cover of up to INR5,00,000 to each eligible family per annum for listed secondary and tertiary care conditions. The cover under the scheme includes all expenses incurred on the following components of the treatment.
  • Medical examination, treatment and consultation
  • Pre-hospitalization
  • Medicine and medical consumables
  • Non-intensive and intensive care services
  • Diagnostic and laboratory investigations
  • Medical implantation services (where necessary)
  • Accommodation benefits
  • Food services
  • Complications arising during treatment
  • Post-hospitalization follow-up care up to 15 days
The benefits of INR 5,00,000 are on a family floater basis which means that it can be used by one or all members of the family. The RSBY had a family cap of five members. However, based on learnings from those schemes, PM-JAY has been designed in such a way that there is no cap on family size or age of members. In addition, pre-existing diseases are covered from the very first day. This means that any eligible person suffering from any medical condition before being covered by PM-JAY will now be able to get treatment for all those medical conditions as well under this scheme right from the day they are enrolled.
1. What about treatments that can cost more than five lakhs, like liver transplant : 20+ lakhs ?

2. What if more than a person in a family has disease and the cost goes above the five lakh ceiling ? Like in Corona cases there are a few families that have theirs members admitted for Corona in the same hospital. This treatment costs quite a bit IIRC.

3. Why can't all treatments be made free and for all ?
 
US patients also go to India to get good treatment for a very cheap price. Indians don't pay patent fees for foreign drugs. Rich people from all over the world go to India to explore this advantage thus further deprive India's own poor population from getting decent medical service.
My kins from Karachi also went there and they are all ga ga about Indian medical treatment....you too are welcome Mate....
 
Nothing proud of cheap copied piracy drugs which is lawful in india...lol... Only shameless indians will be proud of...
However, while even the poorest Chinese can afford the relatively better hospitals (as per indian standard) in india dedicated for foreigners with indian doctors and nurses serve them like really good servants, the local indians can only go to hospitals like this:
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
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However, while even the poorest Chinese can afford the relatively better hospitals (as per indian standard) in india

A point to be noted that in supposedly communist China medical treatment is not free.
 
Damn, our media is so nice to india, much nicer than vice versa..., the article sounds like india has good level of medical care, however a simple check of world's best medical schools shows otherwise, lol...:
Best medical schools in Asia, with world rankings:
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Drug piracy without paying patents harms lives.

Other than that, Indian healthcare is of a good standard if the user has the money.
 
Cheap indian doctors and nurses to treat our poor citizens who can afford the dirt-cheap 3rd world hospitals which local indians still can't afford, well, nothing got hurt here...lol...

But the question is why can't your poor citizens afford your hospitals ( world-class or otherwise ) ? That is not communist.
 
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