Giant statue in India to honour an Ancient Pakistani from Swat (123 ft or 37.5 metres high)

[Vapnope]

Should we be proud of ancestors at one point in history ? What about our ancestors 200,000 years ago that learned how to use fire ?

I am not sure about taking pride in one specific ancestor however YES we need to collectively be proud of our ancestors who moved out of swamps to various places. Who learned how to plant trees and how to tame wild animals. We should be proud of our collective efforts which led us to civilizations.

It's just that I am not laughing with you, I am laughing at you.

Again, its perfectly alright. I have no qualms about it.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Baloch have Arab ancestry. Pushtuns have Persian/Afghan ancestry. Punjabhis have Turko-Mongol and Greek Ancestry. Sindhis have Arab and Turko-Mongol Ancestry. We have nothing to do with pagan Indians.

Balochis are Iranic people and true dravidians are also found among them,same goes for Pashtuns they are Iranic intermixed with locals.Punjabis and Sindhis are from these lands and many of their tribes are from tarim basin and Eurasian Steppe,they have been living here since thousands of years,they made santa dharma,purified sanskrit,composed vedas and fought Sikandar.Slowly system decayed and when Islam came they accepted it a 1000 years ago.

 

[El Sidd]

Where is this glorious past buried? Lets dig stuff up

 

[Sine Nomine]

@Mangus Ortus Novem lala jee see this thread and witness how Mullahcracy has made our people alienated to their own ancestors.They wanted them to be Muslims even before advent of last prophet.

 

[JafarQureshi]

Balochis are Iranic people and true dravidians are also found among them,same goes for Pashtuns they are Iranic intermixed with locals.Punjabis and Sindhis are from these lands and many of their tribes are from tarim basin and Eurasian Steppe,they have been living here since thousands of years,they made santa dharma,purified sanskrit,composed vedas and fought Sikandar.Slowly system decayed and when Islam came they accepted it a 1000 years ago.

Now even Dravidians are Pakistani ancestors? Not even north Indians claim this. What nonsense are we teaching our kids.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Where is this glorious past buried? Lets dig stuff up

Goras have done that for you,you better try taking cocktail of Arab,Persian and Turkish blood.

 

[El Sidd]

They wanted them to be Muslims even before advent of last prophet.

But why would the Holy Book of Muslims imply that Allah was worshiped before advent of the last Merciful Comforter?

Goras have done that for you,you better try taking cocktail of Arab,Persian and Turkish blood.

We can rewrite the history and correct the intellectual dishonesty of the Goraaz

 

[Sine Nomine]

Now even Dravidians are Pakistani ancestors? Not even north Indians claim this. What nonsense are we teaching our kids.

A portion of population,known as Brahui.

According to Josef Elfenbein (1989), the most common theory is that the Brahui were part of a Dravidian invasion of north-western India in 3rd millennium BC, but unlike other Dravidians who migrated to the south, they remained in Sarawan and Jahlawan since before 2000 BC.​

Brahui is a Dravidian language spoken by close to 2 million mostly in the Pakistani province of Balochistan. Besides Pakistani, small groups of Brahui speakers are also found in Irani Balochistan, Afghanistan and in and around the Marw oasis in Turkmenistan.

But why would the Holy Book of Muslims imply that Allah was worshiped before advent of the last Merciful Comforter?

Because it was since dawn of humans.

 

[Sine Nomine]

We can rewrite the history and correct the intellectual dishonesty of the Goraaz

You can correct this,but you can't correct wannabe Turks,Persians and Arabs.

I think there is no glorious past.

There is always but it won't be like we desire.

So there is a chance that Allah would have been worshiped in the Indus Valley?

I am sure at some point.

 

[El Sidd]

Because it was since dawn of humans.

So there is a chance that Allah would have been worshiped in the Indus Valley?

 

[El Sidd]

I think there is no glorious past.

You can always build sand castles and glorify them. Just like the babylonians claim to have made the hanging gardens which then Persians try and claim.

You can correct this,but you can't correct wannabe Turks,Persians and Arabs.

Turks, Persians and Arabs have toiled in the land too. Everyone should get a fair chance.

Or do you want their ghar wapsi?

 

[JafarQureshi]

A portion of population,known as Brahui.

According to Josef Elfenbein (1989), the most common theory is that the Brahui were part of a Dravidian invasion of north-western India in 3rd millennium BC, but unlike other Dravidians who migrated to the south, they remained in Sarawan and Jahlawan since before 2000 BC.​

Brahui is a Dravidian language spoken by close to 2 million mostly in the Pakistani province of Balochistan. Besides Pakistani, small groups of Brahui speakers are also found in Irani Balochistan, Afghanistan and in and around the Marw oasis in Turkmenistan.

That does not make us Dravidians. The white Europeans migrated to America and Australia but that does not make them American Indians or Maoris. Do you see any white Euorpeans in America, Australia or New Zealand claiming those ancestries or being defensive? Our ancestors are great warriors who defeated and pushed Indians out of current day Pakistan. We should be proud of our Persian, Turko-Mongol, Arab and Greek Ancestors rather than trying to claim this fake South Asian ancestry.

 

[El Sidd]

I am sure at some point.

Oh i am pretty sure otherwise why would King Solomon mines will be in Baluchistan.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

So there is a chance that Allah would have been worshiped in the Indus Valley?

There is the Pashupati Seal...but because of lack of written records or our inability to decipher them, very little is known of their religous beliefs--->(other than the standard meditative yoga pose)

I would say meditation is an invention of the Indus Valley

while deep introspection staring into the fire is a product of the Aryan mind--->(Both Brahmins and Zoroastrian priests spend hours staring into the fire)

 

[El Sidd]

There is the Pashupati Seal...but because of lack of written records or our inability to decipher them, very little is known of their religous beliefs--->(other than the standard meditative yoga pose)

I would say meditation is an invention of the Indus Valley

while deep introspection staring into the fire is a product of the Aryan mind--->(Both Brahmins and Zoroastrian priests spend hours staring into the fire)

It will take a couple of IMF bailouts but it can be deciphered.