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The investigation into a deadly gun attack in Hanau is focusing on whether others knew about or helped organise it, Germany's federal prosecutor says.

The suspect shot dead nine people "of migrant background" at two shisha bars on Wednesday evening. He and his mother were later found dead in his flat.

Peter Frank said material the suspect Tobias R had posted online showed a "deeply racist mindset".

He had also been influenced by conspiracy theories, Mr Frank said.

Earlier Chancellor Angela Merkel said there were many signs Tobias R, 43, had acted out of racism.

Speaking in Berlin, Mrs Merkel said: "Racism is a poison. Hate is a poison and this poison exists in our society and is already to blame for many crimes."

Thousands of people have attended vigils in Hanau and cities across Germany.

Turkey says at least five of the dead were Turkish citizens. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said he expected Germany to "throw light on all aspects" of the attack.

Nazi salutes, banned swastika emblems and even the playing of the Horst Wessel, the one-time Nazi "anthem" - all have been cropping up in far-right extremist circles as Germany struggles to contain a growing wave of home-grown extremism.

The problem has been particularly acute in - but not confined to - the east of the country, in the former East Germany. There, unemployment levels have been higher than in the rest of Germany and a simmering resentment, by some, of the recent immigrant arrivals has manifested itself in arson attacks on hostels.

In 2015 Germany opened its borders to an estimated 1.5 million refugees from the Middle East. Although the number of subsequent incidents involving them has been very small, their arrival has been used by far right extremists to stoke ethnic tensions and recruit more young men and women to their cause.

What did the prosecutor say?

Mr Frank said six people had also been injured in the attack, one of them seriously.

Shortly after the attacks the suspect and his 72-year-old mother were found in his apartment, both also shot. A gun was found next to the suspect's body.

Mr Frank said investigators wanted to establish any links the suspect may have had in Germany or potentially also abroad.

"My sympathies to the loved ones of the victims. I wish the injured a swift recovery. It is a day that will live long in our memory and will motivate our investigations," Mr Frank said at a short news conference.

What do we know about the attacks?
The shootings took place around 22:00 (21:00 GMT) on Wednesday, and the first target was the Midnight shisha bar in the city centre of Hanau. Witnesses reported hearing about a dozen gunshots.

The suspect then travelled by car to the Kesselstadt neighbourhood, some 2.5km (1.5 miles) away, and opened fire at the Arena Bar & Cafe.

Shisha bars are places where people gather to smoke a pipe known as shisha or hookah. Traditionally found in Middle Eastern and Asian countries, they are also popular in many other parts of the world.

The shootings sparked a manhunt. Police identified the gunman through information from witnesses and surveillance cameras. Early on Thursday, they stormed the suspect's home, near the scene of the second shooting.

Hanau, in Hesse state, is a city of 100,000 residents about 25km east of Frankfurt.

Who were the victims?
They included German citizens and foreigners aged between 21 and 44, Germany's federal prosecutor said.

Among the dead were "several victims of Kurdish origin", the Kon-Med association of Kurds in Germany said, adding that it was "furious" the authorities were not doing more to fight extremism.

A Bosnian and a Bulgarian also died in the attack, those countries' foreign ministries said.

Ali Can, a German-Turkish anti-racism activist, posted a photo of a friend of his cousin, saying that the friend was among those killed.

Writing on Twitter he said: "We can't spend a peaceful evening out, we're scared for our lives. What is happening in Germany? Where is the protection?"

What do we know about the suspect?
Tobias R had posted videos and a kind of manifesto on his website, Mr Frank said.

In the manifesto he wrote that people from more than 20 countries including Turkey and Israel should be "destroyed", AFP reported.

London-based German counter-terrorism expert Peter Neumann said the text contained "various, but mostly extreme right views, with a do-it-yourself ideology cobbled together out of parts found on the internet".

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The suspect has been identified as Tobias R

"The pattern is clear, and not at all new," he added.

In her statement, Mrs Merkel said there were "many indications at the moment that the perpetrator acted on right-wing extremist, racist motives, out of hatred towards people of other origins, religion or appearance".

Hesse state Interior Minister Peter Beuth said the suspect had not previously been known to the authorities.

The Bild tabloid reports he had a firearms licence, and that ammunition and gun magazines were found in his car.

Gun laws in Germany are among the most stringent in the world, and were tightened further in recent years after other mass shootings.

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Recent far-right attacks in Germany
  • July 2016: An 18-year-old shoots dead nine people at a shopping mall in Munich before killing himself. Bavarian authorities later classify the attack as "politically motivated", saying the teen had "radical right-wing and racist views"

What has the reaction been?
Hanau Mayor Claus Kaminsky said it had been the "hardest day in our history". He said the city had seen centuries of peaceful coexistence between different faiths and cultures - "That is why it is so hard to understand".

Hesse state leader Volker Bouffier said the state parliament had travelled to Hanau to show its solidarity with the victims and their families. He said the attack "came out of a climate" that existed "to some degree worldwide" in which people are targeted because they are different.

"We will do everything to show that people don't have to be afraid and show them that they belong with us, " he said.

However the co-leader of the far right AfD party said the attack was "neither right- nor left-wing terrorism" but the actions of "a madman". Politicians from the rest of political spectrum accused the expressly anti-Islam and anti-immigration AfD of stirring up anti-foreigner hatred.

In other reaction:
  • German Defence Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer: "The background must now be clarified further. Violence from right-wing extremists must not let us rest, we must stand against it"
  • Ursula von der Leyen, European Commission President and former German government minister: "I am deeply shocked by the tragedy that took place... in Hanau"
  • French President Emmanuel Macron: "Immense sadness and my full support for Germany in the face of this tragic attack... I stand with Chancellor Merkel in this fight for our values and the protection of our democracies"
  • Germany's Muslim association KRM called for more to be done in the fight against right-wing extremism, saying they had requested for months that needed to be "a clear stand against Islamophobia"
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51577196
 
I don't understand why he attacked sheesha bars. Why didn't he attack a mosque, given his motivation?

His only motivation is that that white people are being exterminated via migration or other means. He would have killed immigrants in a mosque, on the street or on a bicycle for that matter. I suppose he knew that mostly Arabs and Turks gather in a sisha bar.

There is no denying that Muslims are not safe in their own countries and neither are they safe elsewhere.
 
His only motivation is that that white people are being exterminated via migration or other means. He would have killed immigrants in a mosque, on the street or on a bicycle for that matter. I suppose he knew that mostly Arabs and Turks gather in a sisha bar.

There is no denying that Muslims are not safe in their own countries and neither are they safe elsewhere.





With the Mass-genocide, Whites have committed against Muslims and Muslim nations since 1990, they deserved to be replaced and outbred by Muslims in their own nations...........:devil:
 
His only motivation is that that white people are being exterminated via migration or other means. He would have killed immigrants in a mosque, on the street or on a bicycle for that matter. I suppose he knew that mostly Arabs and Turks gather in a sisha bar.

There is no denying that Muslims are not safe in their own countries and neither are they safe elsewhere.
You're right of course. I just was surprised that this is different to the mosque attacks. Islam itself is usually identified as the "threat" to western civilization by these types. In this case, I feel the perpetrator wants to attack Muslim migrant communities, regardless of "religiousness". It's a slightly different ideological statement being made. I am just splitting hairs here.
 
They all run around with their hate filled manifestos. It is their little bible that contains justification for killing Muslims. Breivik started this trend. All these copy cats are following in his footsteps.

You're right of course. I just was surprised that this is different to the mosque attacks. Islam itself is usually identified as the "threat" to western civilization by these types. In this case, I feel the perpetrator wants to attack Muslim migrant communities, regardless of "religiousness". It's a slightly different ideological statement being made. I am just splitting hairs here.

It is different in the sense he chose a shisha bar i.e. a different location. Although his motivation in my opinion is no different than killing people in a place of worship. White extremists have not only beef with Islam. Although this has in recent years become their main argument to kill and hate. White extremists hate people of colour or basically anything that is different to them. White extremists have killed black African American worshippers in churches. White extremists have killed Jews in synagogues. White extremists have killed in malls and cinemas. The white extremist has killed Indians and Sikhs in bars. The white extremist ideology is very simple. They hate people of color all across the board. They need to pretend they have allies among colored species, but they will pick on all of them.
 
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They all run around with their hate filled manifestos. It is their little bible that contains justification for killing Muslims. Breivik started this trend. All these copy cats are following in his footsteps.



It is different in the sense he chose a shisha bar. Although his motivation on my opinion is no different than killing people in a place of worship. White extremists have not only beef with Islam. Although this has in recent years become their main argument to kill. White extremists hate people of colour or basically anything thag is different to them. White extremists have killed black African American worshippers in churches. White extremists have killed Jews in synagogues. White extremists have killed in malls and cinemas.
Historically, only Muslim empires and the Mongols actually took the fight to Europe to give them a taste of their own expansionist medicine.

Now the Mongols are long disappeared.
 
Historically, only Muslim empires and the Mongols actually took the fight to Europe to give them a taste of their own expansionist medicine.

Now the Mongols are long disappeared.

It think we are gearing up for another war. The white man is angry as ever. He is frustrated and filled with rage. These attacks are a clear sign that frustration has reached boiling point. Wherever the white man looks the colored species are taking over. From China taking over production to Indians stealing CEO and tech jobs. Muslims migrating to European capitals. Blacks abusing white women at will. The white man is angry. He is pissed. It isn't going his way anymore.

The Muslims are the easiest target among all colored people. An easy punching bag. Hence the white man focusing on Muslims. Don't think their anger ends there. The white racist has beef with all colored species. From Muslims to Chinese. From black to brown. From yellow to African. This anger is not confined to one group of people even though the white man pretends it is.

The white angry man is cunning and understands it cannot win at so many fronts at once. It is picking its fights one by one. Expressing anger at many fronts, but only lashing out physically at Muslims. The Muslim nations are not united and very easy to pick on.
 
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Sheesha Bars are widely recognized as the hangout spots among the "problem" sections of immigrant youth

Spoken like a white angry man. A white angry man should shoot you between your legs next time he spots you at a bar pretending to be a white boy.
 
Spoken likeva white angry man.
I did quotations around the word problem to show that I of course donot believe in such characterizations

Spoken like a white angry man. A white angry man should you between your legs next time he spots you at a bar pretending to be a white boy.


I am a strict non drinker and non smoker
 
I did quotations around the word problem to show that I of course donot believe in such characterizations

Don't matter curry boy. You are also deemed a threat. Stealing white man's jobs and not playing nicely in trade with the Americans.
 

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