German secret service worried about growing Salafism

[Slav Defence]

BERLIN: German intelligence voiced concern on Tuesday over the growing number of ultra-conservative Islamic Salafists in the country, some of whom are swelling jihadist ranks abroad, while warning of an increasingly violent German extreme right.

“Salafism is a particularly rapidly growing and extremely worrying group within the extremist movement,”

Hans-Georg Maassen, head of domestic intelligence, told a news conference as he presented his agency's 2012 annual report.

Radical Islamists in Germany numbered 42,550 in 2012, according to surveillance services, and the number of Salafists, who espouse an austere form of Sunni Islam, within the movement grew to 4,500 from 3,800 in a year, he said.

Maassen added that while not all Salafists are jihadists, it was clear that those who departed Germany for Syria or Egypt were there for that purpose.

“One can say that Salafism is an essential step towards jihadism or for people ready to conduct terrorist attacks,” Maassen said.

He also stressed that the number of extremist Islamists in Germany did not signify there were “42,500 potential terrorists” in the country.

Still, some 1,000 people including some Salafists are considered dangerous and 130 are seen as a particular threat and are monitored around-the-clock.

The intelligence report also showed that Egypt had replaced the Waziristan region of Pakistan as the main centre for the training of jihadists.

Syria is also a favoured destination. “We counted more than 60 people who left Germany to fight in Syria,” Maassen said.

In March Germany banned three Islamist Salafist groups which officials said aimed to sweep aside democracy and set up a system based on Sharia Islamic law.

Additionally German Interior Minister Hans-Peter Friedrich said a “significant” number of people belonging to the Lebanese Shia movement Hezbollah were living in Germany but that they behaved in a “relatively moderate way”.

“We are doing everything to make life for them as difficult as possible,” Maassen added, saying Germany was cooperating with Israel on the issue of Hezbollah, blacklisted as a terrorist organisation by Washington.

The EU is facing calls to also add Hezbollah's military wing to its list of “terrorist” groups.

Turning to Germany's extreme right, racist attacks increased last year despite a slight fall in the number of supporters of the far-right movement, the domestic intelligence service report said.

“There is a slight decrease in the number of members of the extreme right movement but the number of people ready to use violence is very striking, at 43 percent,” Friedrich told reporters.

Some 802 racially-motivated violent crimes were registered last year, in the first increase in four years.

About 22,150 people were considered as being part of the far-right movement in Germany in 2012, slightly down on the figure for the year before but a far cry from the 50,900 members of 2000.

But Maassen said about 10,000 members were considered to be inclined towards the use of violence.

And he underscored that the racially-motivated crimes blamed on the neo-Nazi trio, the National Socialist Underground, whose last living member Beate Zschaepe is currently on trial in Munich, “are rejected overall by the extreme right movement”.

But he added: “There remains a small fringe within the extreme right which finds it good and which sees terrorism as a possible form of action.”

Zschaepe denies the charge of complicity in the murders of eight ethnic Turks, a Greek immigrant and a German policewoman between 2000 and 2007 as a founding member of the NSU.

The random discovery of the NSU in late 2011 embarrassed authorities, exposing deep security flaws and raising uncomfortable questions about how the cell went undetected for 13 years in a country proud of owning up to its Nazi past.

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[Desert Fox]

“Salafism is a particularly rapidly growing and extremely worrying group within the extremist movement,”

Hans-Georg Maassen, head of domestic intelligence, told a news conference as he presented his agency's 2012 annual report.

Radical Islamists in Germany numbered 42,550 in 2012, according to surveillance services, and the number of Salafists, who espouse an austere form of Sunni Islam, within the movement grew to 4,500 from 3,800 in a year, he said.

Maassen added that while not all Salafists are jihadists, it was clear that those who departed Germany for Syria or Egypt were there for that purpose.

“One can say that Salafism is an essential step towards jihadism or for people ready to conduct terrorist attacks,” Maassen said.

He also stressed that the number of extremist Islamists in Germany did not signify there were “42,500 potential terrorists” in the country.

Still, some 1,000 people including some Salafists are considered dangerous and 130 are seen as a particular threat and are monitored around-the-clock.

The intelligence report also showed that Egypt had replaced the Waziristan region of Pakistan as the main centre for the training of jihadists.

Syria is also a favoured destination. “We counted more than 60 people who left Germany to fight in Syria,” Maassen said.

In March Germany banned three Islamist Salafist groups which officials said aimed to sweep aside democracy and set up a system based on Sharia Islamic law.

Additionally German Interior Minister Hans-Peter Friedrich said a “significant” number of people belonging to the Lebanese Shia movement Hezbollah were living in Germany but that they behaved in a “relatively moderate way”.

“We are doing everything to make life for them as difficult as possible,” Maassen added, saying Germany was cooperating with Israel on the issue of Hezbollah, blacklisted as a terrorist organisation by Washington.

The EU is facing calls to also add Hezbollah's military wing to its list of “terrorist” groups.

Turning to Germany's extreme right, racist attacks increased last year despite a slight fall in the number of supporters of the far-right movement, the domestic intelligence service report said.

“There is a slight decrease in the number of members of the extreme right movement but the number of people ready to use violence is very striking, at 43 percent,” Friedrich told reporters.

Some 802 racially-motivated violent crimes were registered last year, in the first increase in four years.

About 22,150 people were considered as being part of the far-right movement in Germany in 2012, slightly down on the figure for the year before but a far cry from the 50,900 members of 2000.

But Maassen said about 10,000 members were considered to be inclined towards the use of violence.

And he underscored that the racially-motivated crimes blamed on the neo-Nazi trio, the National Socialist Underground, whose last living member Beate Zschaepe is currently on trial in Munich, “are rejected overall by the extreme right movement”.

But he added: “There remains a small fringe within the extreme right which finds it good and which sees terrorism as a possible form of action.”

Zschaepe denies the charge of complicity in the murders of eight ethnic Turks, a Greek immigrant and a German policewoman between 2000 and 2007 as a founding member of the NSU.

The random discovery of the NSU in late 2011 embarrassed authorities, exposing deep security flaws and raising uncomfortable questions about how the cell went undetected for 13 years in a country proud of owning up to its Nazi past.

On one hand Europeans are supporting these guys in Syria and on the other they are "worried" about its spread?

This article raises multiple questions in my mind most prominently Israel was created due to Nazi murder against innocent jews and as our jewish brothers claim ,that Germany's past is covered in blood of jews,and now they combine with same jewish state against Hezbollah??
I am not favouring Hezbollah,but what I am saying is:"Yesterday's enemy is today their best friend":lol

I disagree with this statement. Today's Germany has no remnants or resemblance of National Socialist Germany (not "Nazi" Germany).

There was a reason why Germany, after 1945, went through a mass "de-Nazification" program under the occupation of the Western Allied armies/military administrations as well as the Soviet Union.

Secondly, Holocaust, or at least the "gassings" of "6 million" Jews did not take place. There is no shred of evidence to support the gassings claim..

 

[Slav Defence]

On one hand Europeans are supporting these guys in Syria and on the other they are "worried" about its spread?




This is a really ignorant statement.

There was a reason why Germany, after 1945, went through a mass "de-Nazification" program under the occupation of the Western Allied armies/military administrations as well as the Soviet Union.

Secondly, Holocaust, or at least the "gassings" of "6 million" Jews did not take place. There is no shred of evidence to support the gassings claim..

In case if you have noticed,I have edited it already....

 

[Desert Fox]

In case if you have noticed,I have edited it already....

I edited my post as well, but will leave it up for educational/informational purpose.

 

[Slav Defence]

I edited my post as well, but will leave it up for educational/informational purpose.

Well yes,your last statement really amazed me..so,what do you think?it was propaganda of certain forces?

 

[Desert Fox]

Well yes,your last statement really amazed me..so,what do you think?it was propaganda of certain forces?

I will leave certain points for you to ponder over, you be the judge:

1). The alleged gas chambers were built AFTER the war by the Soviet Union and the Polish Communist gov.t.

2). The alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz where the Jews were supposedly "gassed" did not have the "Prussian Blue" cyanide residue from extensive use of Zyklon B gas which was the "Nazi" weapon of choice for "gassing" Jews.

The residue was only observed in small gas chambers which were used for delousing prisoner cloths from typhus and flees (there was a typhus epidemic throughout Europe during the mid to last years of WW2).

Gas chamber where Jews were "gassed" (no blue residue):

And the smaller gas chamber that was used for delousing prisoner cloths (note the blue residue from Zyklon B use):

Too small for gassing 6 million Jews don't you think?


3). A American gas chamber expert by the name of Fred Leuchter conducted forensics testing on samples from the walls of the alleged gas chambers used for gassing Jews, none of the samples showed up with cyanide stain/residue.

The news of his discovery reached the Polish officials of Auschwitz and they too carried out similar tests out of curiosity, and they too did not come up with any results showing cyanide usage. However, unlike Fred Leuchter, due to political reasons the Polish officials did no publicize their discovery since doing so can get them a character assassination or even end them up in jail in Europe.

4). During WW2, the British captured German enigma machines and broke their secret code communication and the Germans had absolutely no idea that the British were ease dropping on their every highly declassified conversations, commands, and valuable information, not even till the final days of the war.

However, not a single German transmission from any of their camps mentioned "gassings", "6 million Jews", or "gassing Jews". The numbers reported of casualties from these camps by high ranking German SS commandants of these camps to their HQ's were no where close to 6 million or even over one hundred thousand let alone 6 million people.


5). Even many Holocaust Historians, who are Jews themselves, like the famous Raul Hillberg admitted at a Torranto trial that there really is no shred of evidence that gassings took place of Jews at any of the concentration camps.

 

[Audio]

^^ lol.....

 

[Slav Defence]

I will leave certain points for you to ponder over, you be the judge:

1). The alleged gas chambers were built AFTER the war by the Soviet Union and the Polish Communist gov.t.

2). The alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz where the Jews were supposedly "gassed" did not have the "Prussian Blue" cyanide residue from extensive use of Zyklon B gas which was the "Nazi" weapon of choice for "gassing" Jews.

The residue was only observed in small gas chambers which were used for delousing prisoner cloths from typhus and flees (there was a typhus epidemic throughout Europe during the mid to last years of WW2).

Gas chamber where Jews were "gassed" (no blue residue):

And the smaller gas chamber that was used for delousing prisoner cloths (note the blue residue from Zyklon B use):

Too small for gassing 6 million Jews don't you think?


3). A American gas chamber expert by the name of Fred Leuchter conducted forensics testing on samples from the walls of the alleged gas chambers used for gassing Jews, none of the samples showed up with cyanide stain/residue.

The news of his discovery reached the Polish officials of Auschwitz and they too carried out similar tests out of curiosity, and they too did not come up with any results showing cyanide usage. However, unlike Fred Leuchter, due to political reasons the Polish officials did no publicize their discovery since doing so can get them a character assassination or even end them up in jail in Europe.

4). During WW2, the British captured German enigma machines and broke their secret code communication and the Germans had absolutely no idea that the British were ease dropping on their every highly declassified conversations, commands, and valuable information, not even till the final days of the war.

However, not a single German transmission from any of their camps mentioned "gassings", "6 million Jews", or "gassing Jews". The numbers reported of casualties from these camps by high ranking German SS commandants of these camps to their HQ's were no where close to 6 million or even over one hundred thousand let alone 6 million people.


5). Even many Holocaust Historians, who are Jews themselves, like the famous Raul Hillberg admitted at a Torranto trial that there really is no shred of evidence that gassings took place of Jews at any of the concentration camps.

hmm....I have heard this claim several times that not 6 but 3 million jews were murdered,but what you've revealed is way shocking,this all attempt to gain money from Germans?and to create a separate state of iSRAEL..ALSO DESERT FOX,THIS ALSO CLARIFIES ONE MORE CONFUSION,that why even after so-called murder claimed by Jews,Israel still enjoys good relationship with Germans?because a/c to you holocaust never took place! especially Gas Chamber story. I am really shocked.

 

[Cloakedvessel]

^^ double lol

 

[Desert Fox]

@Slav Defence

I know that this isn't the thread for this topic, so i will leave it at this.

If you ever get the chance, do watch this video:

Here is a Jew (David Cole) visiting Auschwitz and debunking the "gassings" myth through his whole visit to the camp. Since he was a Jew himself, he wasn't labeled a "anti-semite Nazi" right away, however his life as well as those of his family members was threatened after this videos and his other interviews, for which he went into hiding and no one has heard from him since the late 1990's.


Also, if you get a chance, do visit this website, it is a very reputable source, no conspiracy theories, all facts backed with reliable sources:

INSTITUTE FOR HISTORICAL REVIEW --

And other links of interest:

Auschwitz: Myths and Facts


General George S. Patton was assassinated to silence his criticism of allied war leaders-Telegraph.co.uk

Gen Patton's Clear Vision -Why He Was Murdered- The Patton Papers

In 'Eisenhower's Death Camps': A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers

Eisenhower's Death Camps.* The Last Dirty Secret of World War Two by James Bacque

Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans

hmm....I have heard this claim several times that not 6 but 3 million jews were murdered,but what you've revealed is way shocking,this all attempt to gain money from Germans?and to create a separate state of iSRAEL..ALSO DESERT FOX,THIS ALSO CLARIFIES ONE MORE CONFUSION,that why even after so-called murder claimed by Jews,Israel still enjoys good relationship with Germans?because a/c to you holocaust never took place! especially Gas Chamber story. I am really shocked.

What good relationship?

They milk Germans for tax money to fund their war against Arabs in the Me and to keep their war machine running. Anyways, most Germans have been brainwashed and are not even allowed to question the "gassings myth".

Its not like they have a choice.

 

[Slav Defence]

@Slav Defence

I know that this isn't the thread for this topic, so i will leave it at this.

If you ever get the chance, do watch this video:

Here is a Jew (David Cole) visiting Auschwitz and debunking the "gassings" myth through his whole visit to the camp. Since he was a Jew himself, he wasn't labeled a "anti-semite Nazi" right away, however his life as well as those of his family members was threatened after this videos and his other interviews, for which he went into hiding and no one has heard from him since the late 1990's.


Also, if you get a chance, do visit this website, it is a very reputable source, no conspiracy theories, all facts backed with reliable sources:

INSTITUTE FOR HISTORICAL REVIEW --

And other links of interest:

Auschwitz: Myths and Facts


General George S. Patton was assassinated to silence his criticism of allied war leaders-Telegraph.co.uk

Gen Patton's Clear Vision -Why He Was Murdered- The Patton Papers

In 'Eisenhower's Death Camps': A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers

Eisenhower's Death Camps.* The Last Dirty Secret of World War Two by James Bacque

Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans



What good relationship?

They milk Germans for tax money to fund their war against Arabs in the Me and to keep their war machine running. Anyways, most Germans have been brainwashed and are not even allowed to question the "gassings myth".

Its not like they have a choice.

Thank You very much desert fox,I will see all these reports tomorrow.I thank you for your sincere participation in this thread.

Guys quit trolling (lol,double lol etc) if you don't want to share something....

 

[Slav Defence]

@Slav Defence

I know that this isn't the thread for this topic, so i will leave it at this.

If you ever get the chance, do watch this video:

Here is a Jew (David Cole) visiting Auschwitz and debunking the "gassings" myth through his whole visit to the camp. Since he was a Jew himself, he wasn't labeled a "anti-semite Nazi" right away, however his life as well as those of his family members was threatened after this videos and his other interviews, for which he went into hiding and no one has heard from him since the late 1990's.


Also, if you get a chance, do visit this website, it is a very reputable source, no conspiracy theories, all facts backed with reliable sources:

INSTITUTE FOR HISTORICAL REVIEW --

And other links of interest:

Auschwitz: Myths and Facts


General George S. Patton was assassinated to silence his criticism of allied war leaders-Telegraph.co.uk

Gen Patton's Clear Vision -Why He Was Murdered- The Patton Papers

In 'Eisenhower's Death Camps': A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers

Eisenhower's Death Camps.* The Last Dirty Secret of World War Two by James Bacque

Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans



What good relationship?

They milk Germans for tax money to fund their war against Arabs in the Me and to keep their war machine running. Anyways, most Germans have been brainwashed and are not even allowed to question the "gassings myth".
Its not like they have a choice.

By whom?Israeli media,european media etc?

 

[monitor12345]

Yes , there is an urgent need to stop these Wahabis / Salafis. Since they believe killing Muslims ( who do Shirk ) is permissible....
Especially there funding needs to be stopped. There should be democracy in Saudi Arabia.

 

[Slav Defence]

Yes , there is an urgent need to stop these Wahabis / Salafis. Since they believe killing Muslims ( who do Shirk ) is permissible....
Especially there funding needs to be stopped. There should be democracy in Saudi Arabia.

What??killing an entire sect like that is agreeable?if I speak up same against Hindus?or specific sect of it.Look at the report again,even Germans are accepting that not all salafis are committing such terrorist's activities,except those who migrated to middle east regions.

 

[Wholegrain]

@Slav Defence

I know that this isn't the thread for this topic, so i will leave it at this.

If you ever get the chance, do watch this video:

Here is a Jew (David Cole) visiting Auschwitz and debunking the "gassings" myth through his whole visit to the camp. Since he was a Jew himself, he wasn't labeled a "anti-semite Nazi" right away, however his life as well as those of his family members was threatened after this videos and his other interviews, for which he went into hiding and no one has heard from him since the late 1990's.


Also, if you get a chance, do visit this website, it is a very reputable source, no conspiracy theories, all facts backed with reliable sources:

INSTITUTE FOR HISTORICAL REVIEW --

And other links of interest:

Auschwitz: Myths and Facts


General George S. Patton was assassinated to silence his criticism of allied war leaders-Telegraph.co.uk

Gen Patton's Clear Vision -Why He Was Murdered- The Patton Papers

In 'Eisenhower's Death Camps': A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers

Eisenhower's Death Camps.* The Last Dirty Secret of World War Two by James Bacque

Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans



What good relationship?

They milk Germans for tax money to fund their war against Arabs in the Me and to keep their war machine running. Anyways, most Germans have been brainwashed and are not even allowed to question the "gassings myth".

Its not like they have a choice.

Eisenhower was of German descent. If he hated Germans as a race, he must have had quite severe self hatred, and it would be strange that he wouldn't kill himself because when he looks at himself in the mirror he is the first German he sees.