George HW Bush casket arrives in Washington before state funeral

[M.R.9]

more then 4.00.000 civil people killed by the war of iraq and Afghanistan. I don't find any reason- to salute this senior one where killer junior is over there.

 

[nahtanbob]

Bin Laden used the same excuse as you quote ... of American presence on his country soil to murder 3000 Americans... Bush used the same senario to justify the murder of millions of Iraqis in cold blood.

One murderer wears a Gucci suit and hangs out in "polite company" ... While the other is a mad cave dweller. At the end of the day both are murders to be held guilty by the almighty for their crimes no matter the garb the wore.

What did Bin Laden achieve ? he knocked out a few buildings by turning civilian jetliners into cruise missiles.
His vaunted army could not last a month against 100 special op troops and USAF.

He aint mad "cave dweller". he was living comfortably for years in a building larger than most of us ever live.

Bush is respected 41st President of USA. Whether you like it or not most countries in the world including some of America enemies respect him.

Not containing Saddam is not an option. Either depose him or contain him

 

[Trango Towers]

Persian Gulf War (1991) was a UN-mandated development to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi armed forces, and protect neighbors of Iraq from the prospects of Iraqi aggression. US gave Iraq almost a year to pull its forces from Kuwait prior to the war - a big deadline. Not sure how this make Bush Senior a war-mongered one.

Bush Junior was the war-mongered one though. What he did to Iraq had no justification.

Such a simple mind. Santa is coming on the 25th and will deliver your presents down your chimney. But u dont have a chimney.....dont worry sanata has majic

 

[Clutch]

What did Bin Laden achieve ? he knocked out a few buildings by turning civilian jetliners into cruise missiles.
His vaunted army could not last a month against 100 special op troops and USAF.

He aint mad "cave dweller". he was living comfortably for years in a building larger than most of us ever live.

Bush is respected 41st President of USA. Whether you like it or not most countries in the world including some of America enemies respect him.

Well then if we are going by "achievement" levels... Then I guess you are right Bush "achieved" a lot more than Bin Laden by killing millions more.

Bush is respected 41st President of USA. Whether you like it or not most countries in the world including some of America enemies respect him
It isn't about other leaders respecting Bush it's about the dead Iraqis victims and babies he murdered ... I don't think they respect him.

Its about Bush burning in hell now...

 

[nahtanbob]

Well then if we are going by "achievement" levels... Then I guess you are right Bush "achieved" a lot more than Bin Laden by killing millions more.

Bush is respected 41st President of USA. Whether you like it or not most countries in the world including some of America enemies respect him
It isn't about other leaders respecting Bush it's about the dead Iraqis victims and babies he murdered ... I don't think they respect him.

Its about Bush burning in hell now...

blaming bush for the actions of iraqi leaders ?? what else is new ? when was the last time you took responsibility for your own lives? iraqis have gripes against america. sanctions in the 1990s is not one of them

 

[Clutch]

blaming bush for the actions of iraqi leaders ?? what else is new ? when was the last time you took responsibility for your own lives? iraqis have gripes against america. sanctions in the 1990s is not one of them

when was the last time you took responsibility for your own lives?
I'm not Iraqi. When was the last time you took responsibility for your bombings?
Trump’s Military Drops a Bomb Every 12 Minutes, and No One Is Talking About It... https://www.globalresearch.ca/trumps-military-drops-a-bomb-every-12-minutes-and-no-one-is-talking-about-it/5644879



Bush, Saddam, Bin Laden... All guilty in their own right. Bush dropped bombs on Iraq, Saddam bombed his own, Bin Laden bombed the towers.

All killers... Hell awaits all three.

Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children

• 
  Sherwood Ross
  
• 6 years ago
  
• Categories:English

Approximately 3.3 million Iraqis, including 750,000 children, were “exterminated” by economic sanctions and/or illegal wars conducted by the U.S. and Great Britain between 1990 and 2012, an eminent international legal authority says.

The slaughter fits the classic definition of Genocide Convention Article II of, “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part,” says Francis Boyle, professor of international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign, and who in 1991 filed a class-action complaint with the UN against President George H.W. Bush.

 

[nahtanbob]

when was the last time you took responsibility for your own lives?
I'm not Iraqi. When was the last time you took responsibility for your bombings?
Trump’s Military Drops a Bomb Every 12 Minutes, and No One Is Talking About It... https://www.globalresearch.ca/trumps-military-drops-a-bomb-every-12-minutes-and-no-one-is-talking-about-it/5644879



Bush, Saddam, Bin Laden... All guilty in their own right. Bush dropped bombs on Iraq, Saddam bombed his own, Bin Laden bombed the towers.

All killers... Hell awaits all three.

Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children

• 
  Sherwood Ross
  
• 6 years ago
  
• Categories:English

Approximately 3.3 million Iraqis, including 750,000 children, were “exterminated” by economic sanctions and/or illegal wars conducted by the U.S. and Great Britain between 1990 and 2012, an eminent international legal authority says.

The slaughter fits the classic definition of Genocide Convention Article II of, “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part,” says Francis Boyle, professor of international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign, and who in 1991 filed a class-action complaint with the UN against President George H.W. Bush.

Sorry when your government goes to your war your citizens suffer

Iraqis can speak for themselves. No Iraqi is complaining about the sanctions in the 1990s

 

[Clutch]

Sorry when your government goes to your war your citizens suffer

Iraqis can speak for themselves. No Iraqi is complaining about the sanctions in the

Under what authority can you speak for Iraqis? Give me a reference which states no Iraqi ever complained about Bush sanctions ..

Undisputed UN figures show that 1.7 million Iraqi civilians died due to the West’s brutal sanctions regime, half of whom were children.

The mass death was seemingly intended. Among items banned by the UN sanctions were chemicals and equipment essential for Iraq’s national water treatment system. A secret US Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) document discovered by Professor Thomas Nagy of the School of Business at George Washington University amounted, he said, to “an early blueprint for genocide against the people of Iraq”.

In his paper for the Association of Genocide Scholars at the University of Manitoba, Professor Nagi explained that the DIA document revealed “minute details of a fully workable method to ‘fully degrade the water treatment system’ of an entire nation” over a period of a decade. The sanctions policy would create “the conditions for widespread disease, including full scale epidemics,” thus “liquidating a significant portion of the population of Iraq”.

This means that in Iraq alone, the US-led war from 1991 to 2003 killed 1.9 million Iraqis; then from 2003 onwards around 1 million: totalling just under 3 million Iraqis dead over two decades.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/colum...ave-killed-four-million-muslims-1990-39149394

RIP, George HW Bush: a mass-murderer and war-criminal

Cory Doctorow
19 hours ago

They're burying George HW Bush today and even before they planted him, the whitewashing began: we've heard an awful lot about how kind he was to his service dog and his love of colorful socks and a lot less about his role in running an onshore terrorist training camp for Latin America's death squads, his role in toppling democratic governments on two continents, his role in arming and supporting Saddam Hussein, then turning on him and kicking off a genocidal war in Iraq whose goal was to bomb an advanced, heavily populated nation "to the pre-industrial era."

As Jeremy Scahill (previously) puts it in this week's Intercepted podcast (an 84-minute documentary on the humanitarian legacy of Bush I): the US state religion is American Exceptionalism, and today they will saint George Herbert Walker Bush.

The Bush family are not your friends, not even when they're cuddling with Michelle Obama. They are the scions of war profiteers whose fortune grew through helping the Nazis tool up during Hitler's rise to power. They are war-mongers themselves. They have deliberately and coldly planned the murder of civilians: babies, children, women, the elderly.


They killed, and the policies they created were carried on and the antes murderously upped by Clinton, by Obama.

Rest in Peace, St Bush, and may your millions of victims find you in the afterlife.

The United States is now in the midst of a grotesque canonization of one of its imperial saints, George Herbert Walker Bush. This week on Intercepted: an honest memorial service for an unrepentant warmonger who dedicated his life to militarism, war, coups, regime change, and the lies of “American exceptionalism.” Jeremy Scahill details the crimes of Bush, the sick propaganda of the corporate media memorials, and the trail of blood, death, and tears Bush leaves behind. Independent journalist Arun Gupta covers decades of Bush, from his time at the helm of the CIA to the presidency. Gupta discusses Bush’s support for Manuel Noriega and his eventual invasion of Panama, the pardoning of Iran-Contra criminals, the dirty wars in Central America, the support for Saddam Hussein, and the launch of the Gulf War. Acclaimed Iraqi poet and scholar Sinan Antoon describes his life under the U.S.-backed dictatorship of Saddam, the horrors of the Gulf War, and how Bush’s destruction of Iraqi civilian society led to the rise of ISIS.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

The new world order is well alive. it did not turn out the way he intended to

Whatever he and his likes envisaged as new world order, that is well and truly buried.

 

[T-Rex]

Sad day for the world when a war mongered with blood on his hand is honoured like this

Most US presidents have blood in their hands but tell me, was Saddam better? He used chemical weapons against his own population. What kind of leader can do that? You sound like Saddam was ruling peacefully but was he? He had the blood of his own countrymen in his hands and when the bombs started falling on his head he became an 'Islamist'. Matter of fact, this despot encouraged the creation of Daesh. Many of the Daesh commanders are ex-baath officials. They switched from Marxism to Islam but could not give up their Marxist ways of crushing dissent by hook or by crook.

 

[Trango Towers]

Most US presidents have blood in their hands but tell me, was Saddam better? He used chemical weapons against his own population. What kind of leader can do that? You sound like Saddam was ruling peacefully but was he? He had the blood of his own countrymen in his hands and when the bombs started falling on his head he became an 'Islamist'. Matter of fact, this despot encouraged the creation of Daesh. Many of the Daesh commanders are ex-baath officials. They switched from Marxism to Islam but could not give up their Marxist ways of crushing dissent by hook or by crook.

The fact that youbare using bold indicates thst you know thr truth and just propagating your personal agenda.

 

[nahtanbob]

Under what authority can you speak for Iraqis? Give me a reference which states no Iraqi ever complained about Bush sanctions ..

his role in arming and supporting Saddam Hussein, then turning on him and kicking off a genocidal war in Iraq whose goal was to bomb an advanced, heavily populated nation "to the pre-industrial era."

As far as sanctions go some of the data is downright fraudlent.
http://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-ne...isreported-child-mortality-LSE-research-finds

None of the current Iraqi leaders (Shias/Kurds) have complained.

Most of what you publish is half-truths. Your author talks about Bush's role in arming Saddam.
Saddam army was full of Soviet equipment - T-55/T-72 tanks, MiG/Sukhoi combat aircraft
I wonder how that happens

 

[T-Rex]

The fact that youbare using bold indicates thst you know thr truth and just propagating your personal agenda.

You did not prove me wrong. I was expecting that.

 

[nahtanbob]

The fact that youbare using bold indicates thst you know thr truth and just propagating your personal agenda.

If you like Saddam you should take of one your army generals and make them dear dictator.
it is amazing you Pakistanis have pieces of shit as your leaders and a broken political/legal system. yet you want to make pontificate on political systems of other countries

 

[jamahir]

Not containing Saddam is not an option. Either depose him or contain him

Do you think the Bushes were against Saddam because Saddam was "killing his own people" ??

No, under Saddam, Iraq was a moderately progressive Muslim-majority country. What the White House desires is religion-obsessed reactionary societies which are essentially slaves of White House and NATO.

This is the same case with Libya and Syria.