What's new

George HW Bush casket arrives in Washington before state funeral

Dubious

RETIRED MOD
Joined
Jul 22, 2012
Messages
37,717
Reaction score
80
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
  • Crew to carry out ‘Special Air Mission 41’
  • Wednesday declared day of mourning for former president


Guardian staff and agencies

Mon 3 Dec 2018 15.51 GMTFirst published on Mon 3 Dec 2018 13.02 GMT

A statue of George HW Bush with flowers stands near downtown in Houston, Texas, on Sunday night. Photograph: Larry W Smith/EPA
The casket carrying the body of George HW Bush arrived in Washington on Monday afternoon, aboard the US military plane commonly known as Air Force One.

The crew, who flew the plane to Houston on Sunday, were tasked with carrying out “Special Air Mission 41”, the number a reference to Bush’s place in the roster of America’s presidents.

In Texas on Monday morning the casket, draped in an American flag, was carried by former secret service agents and escorted by Houston police. It was to be accompanied to Joint Base Andrews by the 43rd president, Bush’s son George W Bush; his wife, Laura; his brother Neil Bush and his family. Family spokesman Jim McGrath said other Bush family members are expected to be at the Maryland military base for the arrival.

Donald Trump has ordered the federal government closed on Wednesday for a national day of mourning. Flags on public buildings are flying at half-staff for 30 days.

Trump has not always uttered kind words about the Bush family. But he offered nothing but praise after the former president’s death was announced.

“He was just a high-quality man who truly loved his family,” Trump said on Saturday while in Argentina for the G20 summit. “One thing that came through loud and clear, he was very proud of his family and very much loved his family. So he was a terrific guy and he’ll be missed.”

Bush’s death reduces the ex-presidents’ club to four: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George W Bush and Barack Obama. He was denied a second term by Clinton, who would later become a close friend. Writing for the Washington Post on Saturday, Clinton declared of Bush: “I just loved him.”

Carter, at 94, the oldest living ex-president, confirmed he will attend the Washington funeral. His wife Rosalynn, 91, will not. Clinton and Obama are expected to attend, as is Obama’s vice-president, Joe Biden.

CNN reported on Monday that George W Bush will speak at the funeral, as will former Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney, former senator Alan Simpson and the historian Jon Meacham, Bush’s biographer. The report said Trump would not speak, but would meet Bush family members privately.

In Texas, students, staff and visitors flocked to Bush’s presidential library at Texas A&M University in College Station. Thousands paid their respects at a candlelight vigil while others contributed to flower memorials at Bush statues at the library and a park in downtown Houston.

A similar outpouring is anticipated in Washington this week. Bush will lie in state in the Capitol rotunda for a ceremony and public visitation from Monday evening through to Wednesday.

Bush will then be returned to Houston to lie in repose at St Martin’s Episcopal church before burial on Thursday at his family plot on the library grounds. His final resting place will be alongside Barbara Bush, his wife of 73 years who died in April at the age of 92, and Robin Bush, the daughter they lost to leukemia in 1953 at age three.

View image on Twitter


Jim McGrath

✔@jgm41

Mission complete. #Remembering41
231K
7:01 AM - Dec 3, 2018
62.9K people are talking about this


On Sunday, a picture spread online of Bush’s service dog in front of his flag-draped casket. Bush spokesman McGrath posted the picture of the yellow Labrador retriever named Sully with the caption: “Mission complete. #Remembering41.”

Bush received Sully in June from America’s VetDogs nonprofit organization. The president had a form of Parkinson’s disease. Sully could open doors, pick up items and summon help. KTRK-TV in Houston reported that Sully will now return to America’s VetDogs in New York and then join the Water Reed National Military Medical Center’s Facility Dog Program.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/03/george-hw-bush-casket-washington
 
. . .
Sad day for the world when a war mongered with blood on his hand is honoured like this :tsk:
Persian Gulf War (1991) was a UN-mandated development to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi armed forces, and protect neighbors of Iraq from the prospects of Iraqi aggression. US gave Iraq almost a year to pull its forces from Kuwait prior to the war - a big deadline. Not sure how this make Bush Senior a war-mongered one.

Bush Junior was the war-mongered one though. What he did to Iraq had no justification.
 
. .
Sad day for the world when a war mongered with blood on his hand is honoured like this :tsk:

Excuse me. What war ?? Saddam invaded Kuwait. Not the other way way around.
Bush Junior is a different story
 
.
Persian Gulf War (1991) was a UN-mandated development to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi armed forces, and protect neighbors of Iraq from the prospects of Iraqi aggression. US gave Iraq almost a year to pull its forces from Kuwait prior to the war - a big deadline. Not sure how this make Bush Senior a war-mongered one.

Bush Junior was the war-mongered one though. What he did to Iraq had no justification.
Both are same :agree:

When you have weapons backing your seat you need to find customers! It has been the legacy of every president!

George HW Bush should be remembered for the Iraq war his son started, revealing the pitfalls of political dynasties
Just as Bush Senior seemed to be living up to the highest principles of global liberal democracy, he was sowing the seeds of the whirlwinds to follow

John_Rentoul.png


The Independent Voices

The death of George HW Bush is a reminder that history matters. One thing leads to another. One obvious consequence of his presidency was biological, in that his son succeeded to his office eight years after he left the White House.

This was an unexpected return of the dynastic principle to US politics – in abeyance since John Quincy Adams, son of the second president, became president after the disputed election of 1824.


The Bushes’ family succession seems likely to remain an aberration rather than a trend after Jeb Bush failed in his presidential campaign running as a pro-immigration Republican, and after Hillary Clinton lost two years ago.

But that aberration does pose the question: would any other president than the former president’s son have taken the US into the war in Iraq in 2003? Bush Junior was asked by Bob Woodward at the end of 2003 if he had taken his father’s advice, and said: “I don’t remember.” That was the time when he said: “There is a higher father that I appeal to.”


George HW Bush’s death marks the end of an era in American politics

It wasn’t quite as cryptic as it seemed. The president thought the question was about advice on how to deal with the burden of sending troops into action knowing that some would lose their lives. Presumably, the son knew the father had his doubts about the invasion. It has long been assumed that Bush Senior opposed it but would not have presumed to tell his son what to do. Perhaps now we will find out for sure.

Either way, the Iraq war was a consequence of the elder Bush’s response to Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait in 1990. That seemed at the time to be a high point in American foreign policy. The sole superpower since the fall of the Berlin wall the year before, Bush exemplified responsible, collective leadership. The invasion of Kuwait was a straightforward annexation of a sovereign nation by force, and the United Nations responded by authorising, for only the second time in its history, the use by its members of “all necessary means” – that is, including military action – to right the wrong. (The only other time the UN did this was in its earliest days in Korea in 1950, when the Soviet Union made the tactical error of boycotting the Security Council meeting.)

When the US-led troops retook Kuwait after seven months of occupation, a minority in the Bush administration wanted to pursue Iraqi forces to Baghdad to remove the Saddam regime. Bush decided against, but it meant that, for some, possibly including his son, he had left unfinished business.

This group was strengthened in its conviction when Saddam launched a murderous campaign of repression against the Shia population in southern Iraq, some of whose leaders had convinced themselves the US would come to their aid. And it was strengthened further when a hit squad led by a colonel in Saddam’s intelligence service was sent to Kuwait in 1993 to assassinate Bush when he visited to commemorate the allied victory – a plot foiled by the Kuwaiti defence ministry.
That was why, for Bush Junior, the Iraq war might have been personal. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 – except that, in the mind of Osama bin Laden, the presence of infidel troops on Saudi Arabian soil for Operation Desert Storm to retake Kuwait inspired a grievance against America. But you can see why, for that president, the idea that he was finishing something his father had started might have taken hold.

Which just goes to show how history never ends. Francis Fukuyama wrote his celebrated essay “The End of History?” in 1989. It turned out to be a question to which the answer was no. Just as Bush Senior seemed to be living up to the highest principles of global liberal democracy, he was sowing the seeds of the whirlwinds to follow. Although there was a minority on the so-called left who thought the counter-invasion of Kuwait was “all about oil” – and Jeremy Corbyn voted in the House of Commons against British forces taking part – Bush thought it was about Munich, 1938 and standing up to dictators, according to Tom Nichols, a US professor and a senate staffer at the time of the Gulf War.


And for a while, Bush Senior seemed to have his reward in public opinion, in the US and worldwide. I vividly remember the Democratic primaries in 1992, when six unknowns, including Paul Tsongas who had bumper stickers saying “Tsenator Tsongas” to help people pronounce his name, and Jerry Brown, former governor of California, competed for the honour of being taken to the cleaners by one of the most popular presidents in American history.

But the economy had turned, Bush’s tax rises came back to bite him and the candidate who survived the Democratic primaries, Bill Clinton, turned out to be one of the best campaigners in recent politics.

That meant it was left to the son of Bush to finish the father’s business, after one of the greatest what-ifs of history: Al Gore’s narrowest of defeats in 2000. And to remind us why dynastic politics is a really bad idea.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...president-legacy-saddam-hussein-a8662666.html
 
. .
The Ignored Legacy of George H.W. Bush: War Crimes, Racism, and Obstruction of Justice
Mehdi Hasan
December 1 2018, 9:38 p.m.
AP_9101160183-1543671715.jpg



President George H.W. Bush addresses the nation from the Oval Office on Jan. 16, 1991, after U.S. forces began military action against Iraq, code-named Operation Desert Storm.


Photo: Charles Tasnadi/AP

THE TRIBUTES TO former President George H.W. Bush, who died on Friday aged 94, have been pouring in from all sides of the political spectrum. He was a man “of the highest character,” said his eldest son and fellow former president, George W. Bush. “He loved America and served with character, class, and integrity,” tweeted former U.S. Attorney and #Resistance icon Preet Bharara. According to another former president, Barack Obama, Bush’s life was “a testament to the notion that public service is a noble, joyous calling. And he did tremendous good along the journey.” Apple boss Tim Cook said: “We have lost a great American.”

In the age of Donald Trump, it isn’t difficult for hagiographers of the late Bush Sr. to paint a picture of him as a great patriot and pragmatist; a president who governed with “class” and “integrity.” It is true that the former president refused to vote for Trump in 2016, calling him a “blowhard,” and that he eschewed the white nationalist, “alt-right,” conspiratorial politics that has come to define the modern Republican Party. He helped end the Cold War without, as Obama said, “firing a shot.” He spent his life serving his country — from the military to Congress to the United Nations to the CIA to the White House. And, by all accounts, he was also a beloved grandfather and great-grandfather to his 17 grandkids and eight great-grandkids.

Nevertheless, he was a public, not a private, figure — one of only 44 men to have ever served as president of the United States. We cannot, therefore, allow his actual record in office to be beautified in such a brazen way. “When a political leader dies, it is irresponsible in the extreme to demand that only praise be permitted but not criticisms,” as my colleague Glenn Greenwald has argued, because it leads to “false history and a propagandistic whitewashing of bad acts.” The inconvenient truth is that the presidency of George Herbert Walker Bush had far more in common with the recognizably belligerent, corrupt, and right-wing Republican figures who came after him — his son George W. and the current orange-faced incumbent — than much of the political and media classes might have you believe.

Consider:

He ran a racist election campaign. The name of Willie Horton should forever be associated with Bush’s 1988 presidential bid. Horton, who was serving a life sentence for murder in Massachusetts — where Bush’s Democratic opponent, Michael Dukakis, was governor — had fled a weekend furlough program and raped a Maryland woman. A notorious television ad called “Weekend Passes,” released by a political action committee with ties to the Bush campaign, made clear to viewers that Horton was black and his victim was white.

As Bush campaign director Lee Atwater bragged, “By the time we’re finished, they’re going to wonder whether Willie Horton is Dukakis’s running mate.” Bush himself was quick to dismiss accusations of racism as “absolutely ridiculous,” yet it was clear at the time — even to right-wing Republican operatives such as Roger Stone, now a close ally of Trump — that the ad had crossed a line. “You and George Bush will wear that to your grave,” Stone complained to Atwater. “It’s a racist ad. … You’re going to regret it.”

Stone was right about Atwater, who on his deathbed apologized for using Horton against Dukakis. But Bush never did.

He made a dishonest case for war. Thirteen years before George W. Bush liedabout weapons of mass destruction to justify his invasion and occupation of Iraq, his father made his own set of false claims to justify the aerial bombardment of that same country. The first Gulf War, as an investigation by journalist Joshua Holland concluded, “was sold on a mountain of war propaganda.”

For a start, Bush told the American public that Iraq had invaded Kuwait “without provocation or warning.” What he omitted to mention was that the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, had given an effective green light to Saddam Hussein, telling him in July 1990, a week before his invasion, “[W]e have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait.”

Then there is the fabrication of intelligence. Bush deployed U.S. troops to the Gulf in August 1990 and claimed that he was doing so in order “to assist the Saudi Arabian Government in the defense of its homeland.” As Scott Peterson wrote in the Christian Science Monitor in 2002, “Citing top-secret satellite images, Pentagon officials estimated … that up to 250,000 Iraqi troops and 1,500 tanks stood on the border, threatening the key U.S. oil supplier.”

Yet when reporter Jean Heller of the St. Petersburg Times acquired her own commercial satellite images of the Saudi border, she found no signs of Iraqi forces; only an empty desert. “It was a pretty serious fib, Heller told Peterson, adding: “That [Iraqi buildup] was the whole justification for Bush sending troops in there, and it just didn’t exist.”

AP_9101170331-1543671810.jpg

President George H. W. Bush talks with Secretary of State James Baker III and Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney during a meeting of the cabinet in the White House on Jan. 17, 1991 to discuss the Persian Gulf War.


Photo: Ron Edmonds/AP

He committed war crimes. Under Bush Sr., the U.S. dropped a whopping 88,500 tons of bombs on Iraq and Iraqi-occupied Kuwait, many of which resulted in horrific civilian casualties. In February 1991, for example, a U.S. airstrike on an air-raid shelter in the Amiriyah neighborhood of Baghdad killed at least 408 Iraqi civilians. According to Human Rights Watch, the Pentagon knew the Amiriyah facility had been used as a civil defense shelter during the Iran-Iraq war and yet had attacked without warning. It was, concluded HRW, “a serious violation of the laws of war.”

U.S. bombs also destroyed essential Iraqi civilian infrastructure — from electricity-generating and water-treatment facilities to food-processing plants and flour mills. This was no accident. As Barton Gellman of the Washington Post reported in June 1991: “Some targets, especially late in the war, were bombed primarily to create postwar leverage over Iraq, not to influence the course of the conflict itself. Planners now say their intent was to destroy or damage valuable facilities that Baghdad could not repair without foreign assistance. … Because of these goals, damage to civilian structures and interests, invariably described by briefers during the war as ‘collateral’ and unintended, was sometimes neither.”

Got that? The Bush administration deliberately targeted civilian infrastructure for “leverage” over Saddam Hussein. How is this not terrorism? As a Harvard public health team concluded in June 1991, less than four months after the end of the war, the destruction of Iraqi infrastructure had resulted in acute malnutrition and “epidemic” levels of cholera and typhoid.

By January 1992, Beth Osborne Daponte, a demographer with the U.S. Census Bureau, was estimating that Bush’s Gulf War had caused the deaths of 158,000 Iraqis, including 13,000 immediate civilian deaths and 70,000 deaths from the damage done to electricity and sewage treatment plants. Daponte’s numbers contradicted the Bush administration’s, and she was threatened by her superiors with dismissal for releasing “false information.” (Sound familiar?)

He refused to cooperate with a special counsel. The Iran-Contra affair, in which the United States traded missiles for Americans hostages in Iran, and used the proceeds of those arms sales to fund Contra rebels in Nicaragua, did much to undermine the presidency of Ronald Reagan. Yet his vice president’s involvement in that controversial affair has garnered far less attention. “The criminal investigation of Bush was regrettably incomplete,” wrote Special Counsel Lawrence Walsh, a former deputy attorney general in the Eisenhower administration, in his final report on the Iran-Contra affair in August 1993.

Why? Because Bush, who was “fully aware of the Iran arms sale,” according to the special counsel, failed to hand over a diary “containing contemporaneous notes relevant to Iran/contra” and refused to be interviewed in the later stages of the investigation. In the final days of his presidency, Bush even issued pardons to six defendants in the Iran-Contra affair, including former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger — on the eve of Weinberger’s trial for perjury and obstruction of justice. “The Weinberger pardon,” Walsh pointedly noted, “marked the first time a president ever pardoned someone in whose trial he might have been called as a witness, because the president was knowledgeable of factual events underlying the case.” An angry Walsh accused Bush of “misconduct” and helping to complete “the Iran-contra cover-up.”

Sounds like a Trumpian case of obstruction of justice, doesn’t it?

AP_124204564029-1543671943.jpg

A U.S. marshal, left, looking for a suspect, shows a mug shot to a man found allegedly using drugs in a crackhouse, according to police, in Washington, D.C., on July 18, 1989. The police raid was part of President George H.W. Bush’s war on drugs.
Photo: J. Scott Applewhite/AP

He escalated the racist war on drugs. In September 1989, in a televised addressnto the nation from the Oval Office, Bush held up a bag of crack cocaine, which he said had been “seized a few days ago in a park across the street from the White House . … It could easily have been heroin or PCP.”

Yet a Washington Post investigation later that month revealed that federal agents had “lured” the drug dealer to Lafayette Park so that they could make an “undercover crack buy in a park better known for its location across Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House than for illegal drug activity” (the dealer didn’t know where the White House was and even asked the agents for directions). Bush cynically used this prop — the bag of crack — to call for a $1.5 billion increase in spending on the drug war, declaiming: “We need more prisons, more jails, more courts, more prosecutors.”

The result? “Millions of Americans were incarcerated, hundreds of billions of dollars wasted, and hundreds of thousands of human beings allowed to die of AIDS — all in the name of a ‘war on drugs’ that did nothing to reduce drug abuse,” pointed out Ethan Nadelmann, founder of the Drug Policy Alliance, in 2014. Bush, he argued, “put ideology and politics above science and health.” Today, even leading Republicans, such as Chris Christie and Rand Paul, agree that the war on drugs, ramped up by Bush during his four years in the White House, has been a dismal and racist failure.

He groped women. Since the start of the #MeToo movement, in late 2017, at least eight different women have come forward with claims that the former president groped them, in most cases while they were posing for photos with him. One of them, Roslyn Corrigan, told Time magazine that Bush had touched her inappropriately in 2003, when she was just 16. “I was a child,” she said. The former president was 79. Bush’s spokesperson offered this defense of his boss in October 2017: “At age 93, President Bush has been confined to a wheelchair for roughly five years, so his arm falls on the lower waist of people with whom he takes pictures.” Yet, as Time noted, “Bush was standing upright in 2003 when he met Corrigan.”

Facts matter. The 41st president of the United States was not the last Republican moderate or a throwback to an imagined age of conservative decency and civility; he engaged in race baiting, obstruction of justice, and war crimes. He had much more in common with the two Republican presidents who came after him than his current crop of fans would like us to believe.

https://theintercept.com/2018/12/01...war-crimes-racism-and-obstruction-of-justice/

Wonder how people still think he wasnt a war monger? His son just inherited the same genes...
 
. . .
If that is considered great then there is something wrong with your standard :D

His performance must be judged against the job that he held. My, or anyone else's views are secondary.
 
.
His performance must be judged against the job that he held. My, or anyone else's views are secondary.
Well I did that on the basis of the job he held....and the lies he spread...read post no. 10...I couldnt have summarized it any better :agree:
 
.
Well I did that on the basis of the job he held....and the lies he spread...read post no. 10...I couldnt have summarized it any better :agree:

I respect your right to have your opinion, just as I have mine.
 
.
pibimage.jpg


Ministry of Defence
04-December, 2018 15:20 IST
Raksha Mantri on a Five-Day Official visit to US

Raksha Mantri Smt Nirmala Sitharaman is on an official visit to the United States of America from December 02-07, 2018, at the invitation of Secretary of Defence James N Mattis. In Washington DC, she had a meeting with Secretary Mattis, who also hosted a dinner in her honour. Prior to the meeting, on her arrival at the Pentagon, she was received by Secretary Mattis and was accorded the Armed Forces Enhanced Honours Cordon welcome. During their meeting, discussions were held on the growing partnership between India and US in the defence sphere. Views were also exchanged on a broad range of bilateral and international issues of mutual interest. The Ministers reviewed ongoing initiatives to further strengthen bilateral defence cooperation, as a key pillar of the strategic partnership between India and USA.

Both sides agreed to further strengthen bilateral defence cooperation, building on the discussions and outcomes of the ‘2 + 2 Dialogue’ held in September 2018. Smt Nirmala Sitharaman highlighted the steps taken by Government of India to promote defence sector manufacturing, under Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi's ‘Make in India’ flag-ship programme.

Earlier on December 03, 2018, Raksha Mantri Smt Nirmala Sitharaman visited the US Department of State, where she signed condolence book for former US President George HW Bush. She also paid respects at the 'Tomb of the Unknown Soldier' by laying a wreath at the Arlington National Cemetery Memorial.

Following her engagements in Washington DC, Smt Nirmala Sitharaman will be visiting Reno, today, where she will hold interactions with select leaders of Indian community in the US. Later, she will visit San Francisco where she would address a roundtable meeting at Stanford. She will also visit the Defence Innovation Unit (DIU) of the US Department of Defence and interact with start-ups and venture capitalists associated with this unit.

From December 5-7, 2018 Raksha Mantri Smt Nirmala Sitharaman will visit Honolulu, which is the headquarters of the US Pacific Command (PACOM), recently renamed as INDO-PACOM. During the visit, she will hold meetings with Commander of INDO-PACOM, Admiral Philip S. Davidson. She will also visit Joint Base Pearl Harbour Hickam, where she would board a US Guided Missile Destroyer and will be briefed on INDO-PACOM activities.

******************
 
.
Back
Top Bottom