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General Kayani spills the beans, blames others, raises doubts

Shaheen Sehbai

- See more at: General Kayani spills the beans, blames others, raises doubts - thenews.com.pk

DUBAI: General Kayani has finally spoken his heart out and the information trickling out from the not so off-the-record four-hour briefing is revealing as well as a cause for serious concern and a warning for the civilians and the country.

The bottom line General Kayani gave was that he wants free and fair elections and a peaceful transfer of power and everyone must respect the mandate of the people and for this the army will provide the maximum help, but only that much which is asked for by the civilians.

So in other words what the general said repeatedly was that no one should try to play games with the transparency and fairness of the elections and the results must be accepted but the army will not impose itself in any way and this job has to be done by the civilians themselves.

Yet while confirming that the army has pulled out of these, and almost all other, matters in the civilian domain, General Kayani gave a long list of civilian failures, almost a charge sheet against the politicians and the government and placed the blame of gigantic failures in many critical domains at the civilian doorstep.

Not to intervene is constitutionally and practically a very positive and constructive approach but in reality it has brought the country to the verge of a collapse and General Kayani realises that but does not want to share the blame.

Examples of the civilians’ failure that he quoted, in his own soft style and in a non-intrusive way, were many but a cool analysis of his thoughts and ideas reveals he has told the government and politicians they had messed up in a big way and no more of this mess-up can be afforded.

For instance, he says on the key issue of war against terrorism, the army is not to be blamed but the civilians have not formulated a comprehensive anti-terrorism policy and they could not decide what to do. They threw the ball in the court of the army without giving them policy guidelines, the targets to be achieved and the way that was to be done.

Repeatedly, he said that the army had not been consulted or taken on board about the political all parties conferences being held on counter terrorism.


General Kayani, in this context, quoted many examples and reminded the media men of the Swat situation where he said the President was persuaded by him to take a decision. He also took ANP leader Asfandyar Wali to the President and when the decision was taken to talk to Maulana Sufi Mohammed, the talks were held but when he violated the accord, an operation was launched. Then the civilians had to take over the responsibility which, he implied, they did not.

General Kayani specifically mentioned the arrests made in Swat and complained that if the arrested persons are not convicted because of lack of evidence, the army cannot hold them forever. For three-and-a-half years it is holding these people and is either violating laws by doing so or risks more terrorism if they are released.

Likewise, in Balochistan, General Kayani said, an army operation could be launched only if the civilians take that decision and order the army to do so. But once the operation is done and people are arrested, they will again have to be tried and convicted by the police and courts for which the civilians are not prepared and ready.

Similarly, he said the civilians depend too much and remain forever scared of the ISI and army intelligence agencies whereas the tasks should have been done by their own agencies.

All internal matters have to be handled by the civilians as the ISI has to look after external intelligence threats and the army has to secure borders. Where are the civilian agencies? he asked, in so many words, though politely.

General Kayani’s talk was almost a report card of failure of the interior ministry but he said in so many words that for five years the army took all these failures in its stride, and sometimes guided the civilians to reform and take ownership and responsibility yet did not intervene to stop the rot.

In my view, this was a very considered and deliberate policy as General Kayani and his colleagues knew the capacity of the civilians. They knew that these politicians will not be able to handle such colossal issues like the war on terror, the Balochistan mess, the fight against domestic extremism and fanaticism but they left everything to these immature and inexperienced or incompetent politicians so that the army may not be blamed and the onus of the disaster falls on the civilians.

Now he has explained his five years of non-interference by the army, failure of the civilians to cope and the resultant disasters in a four-hour session which can be summed up in one line: “Don’t blame us. Do something if you can.”

The tragedy is that General Kayani knows well that the 10 years of General Musharraf and the total dominance of the army, the persecution of politicians, the disarray in the political system, the physical threats to political leaders, their assassinations and mass murders, all meant that the politicians were not ready, although they had been voted into power because an election was held and that too under the threat of mass rebellion after Benazir Bhutto’s murder.

So there was no way the army could avoid an election but there was no way the civilians could correct everything messy that the generals were leaving behind.

Similar is the issue with the present elections. General Kayani is now saying that elections must be free, fair and transparent but the set-up that has been put in place is controversial, weak and fragile, weakest at the top.

In his four-hour talk he referred to this weakness of the ECP in his own way by recalling the famous meeting between him and Fakhru Bhai in which a briefing was given by the army to the CEC for over two hours but at the end Fakhru Bhai did not recognise General Kayani.

“Yes I am General Kayani” he told the ageing CEC but then also recalled the story of Alif Laila and the joke associated with it when after the whole night someone asked: “Was Zulekha a man or a woman”.
:lol:

By referring to Fakhru Bhai and speaking about his age and his capacity, General Kayani indirectly expressed doubts that he can handle such a gigantic task of holding the election. He also knows that politicians have nominated the other four members of the ECP and they are political nominees who can, and may, play games for their sponsors.

So when he says that elections must be fair and free, he is again shifting the blame to the civilians while knowing that they do not mean a fair business and they will do the mischief in their own ways. He is not ready to interfere but is only asking them not to try. Yet he has walked out of providing army cover to the polls saying he cannot spare 200,000 troops. Fakhru Bhai has been left high and dry, on his own.

So if the politicians don’t listen to the army chief, the bottom line is that nothing will happen. Kayani has already, and in the same meeting, announced that he will retire later this year, or just after a few months after the elections. The politicians can even cut that period short by announcing his replacement three months ahead of the date. So the politicians will play around and the general will go home, leaving the mess for the people to face.

His clearest warning was on the economy and again he blamed the civilians entirely for the failure. He recounted so many instances and asked do you blame the army for this, for that and for everything. He, however, allowed the corrupt civilians to do the damage before his own eyes.

The media lot sitting in front of him, it looks, did not disagree with him on this count. But a pile of dirt, mixed with ***** and stink left behind by the army after years of misrule cannot be cleared so easily, when the army pulls itself into a corner and does not stop even the most glaring and blatant violations of the laws and Constitution.

What General Kayani could have done, and has not done, was to strengthen and reassure the institutions which can check the incompetent civilians to place strong checks and corrections at every stage, so that things would not have come so near to collapse. When General Kayani retires, as he would in a few months later this year, he would be judged as another leader of the Gorbachev kind. Will he like to be called General Gorbachev?

Note : this is unbelievable, when the army dosent interfer in politics than the cilvilians specially the journalists have a prob and when it does they have a prob.
truely the army is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 
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The tragedy is that General Kayani knows well that the 10 years of General Musharraf and the total dominance of the army, the persecution of politicians, the disarray in the political system, the physical threats to political leaders, their assassinations and mass murders, all meant that the politicians were not ready, although they had been voted into power because an election was held and that too under the threat of mass rebellion after Benazir Bhutto’s murder.

Really :woot:

So Nawaz Sharif opting to living out in Jeddah and expanding his busines and family is persecuition ?

These feudal (politicians) need to be shown the gallows once and for all, and then maybe we can let these quasi intellectuals to shed a tear for the human loss .. maybe .. just maybe.
 
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For instance, he says on the key issue of war against terrorism, the army is not to be blamed but the civilians have not formulated a comprehensive anti-terrorism policy and they could not decide what to do

Joke of the century, i wonder what makes Kiani think that common people, media, judiciary will buy this BS.
 
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I trust army not Kiani. Go to the markets, university and colleges and his home town you will get your answer and what his brothers are up to.

I have been to every place , You my Friend need to go there .
 
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the Fact that 88% still trust Army , and 12% remaining can only talk .


i'm in 88% and for 12% are those who can't do anything except criticizing so carry on who cares barking dogs seldom bites :)
 
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The Basic law of Nation state is "Gun Power Must be separate from people power". When both merge , give birth to chaos,exploitation etc.

No nation on earth is good place under military/totalitarian rule
 
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this is the key issue why pakistan is failing, and i agree with kyani very much that the civilian authority is not protecting pakistan, police is corrupt inept, the civilian authority cannot control the situation in karachi, calls the army, civilian authority cannot control the situation in balochistan, calls the army and the same case every where the army had to do the operation and in this way also got distrusted by the pakistanis, nawaz broght army into civlian areas like sindh and karachi and held an army operation

army belongs to the barracks and on the border but pakistan army is made to deal with the situation internally which is detrimental for both the state and the people

we cant control the law and order of pakistan if we cant control our police, which is a system which should totally be depoliticised and made a community serving police and not a political tool to be controlled through politics
 
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this is the key issue why pakistan is failing, and i agree with kyani very much that the civilian authority is not protecting pakistan, police is corrupt inept, the civilian authority cannot control the situation in karachi, calls the army, civilian authority cannot control the situation in balochistan, calls the army and the same case every where the army had to do the operation and in this way also got distrusted by the pakistanis, nawaz broght army into civlian areas like sindh and karachi and held an army operation

army belongs to the barracks and on the border but pakistan army is made to deal with the situation internally which is detrimental for both the state and the people

we cant control the law and order of pakistan if we cant control our police, which is a system which should totally be depoliticised and made a community serving police and not a political tool to be controlled through politics

The ditto same claim has been made by almost all authors in the book the future of Pakistan. It alleges that the civilian government and setup has failed to come up to the expectations of people and take over responsibility from the army in areas it has left. An example would be Swat Bajaur and Mohmand agencies.... all denotified as conflict zones but still the civilian government has not helped affected families and moved in to fill the vacuum. Army does not want a role (as Hassan Askari too puts it), it was forced, burdened so much that it had to take the role.
 
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I agree that the fault lies with the Civilian leadership. we elected such douchebags that are filling their own pockets but are not ready to spend a penny of the public money on raising a better future for the nation.

however, I dont consider army establishment to be the saints here, they played their traditional role.
 
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I agree that the fault lies with the Civilian leadership. we elected such douchebags that are filling their own pockets but are not ready to spend a penny of the public money on raising a better future for the nation.

however, I dont consider army establishment to be the saints here, they played their traditional role.

Are you alright today? :cheesy:
 
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