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GCC declares Lebanon's Hezbollah a 'terrorist' group

No, Again I am giving generic examples of what may and may not be war crimes.
Not neccessarily related to Hezbollah.

Even if someone is "targetting" a military area, the precision of that weapon needs to be high enough
that it should hit the target in the normal case.

If hitting a town several km away is the normal case, then its precision is so low, that firing it is a war crime.
If statistics show that the hits are centered on the town, it is a war crime, even if it is just a few hundred meters away.

I think it is pretty clear that Hezbollah is war criminals based on the number of hit on Israeli towns
by unguided missiles.

As for the Egyptian Ship, I just looked at the obvious place, and then asked You for Your version.
I obvioulso do not claim that the Wiki entry is the truth
So far You did not produce any sources Yourself.

If this is the damage of 165kg of highly explosives material then I'm teddy bear .
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by the way , we knew what we gave Hezbollah , they only advertise the c-802 myth to hide the fact they thought the Egyptian ship attacked them and used a harpoon to sink it.
 
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If this is the damage of 165kg of highly explosives material then I'm teddy bear .
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by the way , we knew what we gave Hezbollah , they only advertise the c-802 myth to hide the fact they thought the Egyptian ship attacked them and used a harpoon to sink it.

A picture of damage is not really helping Your case.
Does not show what caused the damage.
You need to do better than that.

As proof of a war crime it is useless, especially when YOU CLAIM that the Israelis (I guess You mean them)
BELIEVED they were under attack.
If they then did sink the ship (to be proved) then this is classified as a mistake, and not a war crime.
Only if they know or have reason to believe that it is not a military target, it can be a war crime.
 
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A picture of damage is not really helping Your case.
Does not show what caused the damage.
You need to do better than that.

As proof of a war crime it is useless, especially when YOU CLAIM that the Israelis (I guess You mean them)
BELIEVED they were under attack.
If they then did sink the ship (to be proved) then this is classified as a mistake, and not a war crime.
Only if they know or have reason to believe that it is not a military target, it can be a war crime.
the picture is what Israel say the missile did to hanit and I put it here for everyone to see it was not 165kg warhead of c-802 but 29kg warhead of a missile like kowsar,as anybody could clearly see a c-802 even of don't explode will do more damage than only 1m breech in the ship. and the waar crime was not the attack on the egyptian ship it was the mission of the ship which was to attack anything that was using the road to escape the cities or village around . they were there to stop civilians from escaping.
 
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Israel faces similar uprising as Assad in past 30 years. Nevertheless not a SINGLE village or neighborhood was ethnically cleansed. There huge Arab population growth, there is no any mass migration or refugees.

Assad on he other hand cleansed nearly half of Syria's population and murdered another quarter million, he starves, gasses and indiscriminately bombs his people.

Who is fascist here?


You doubt the fact that there are millions of refugees? Must be a photoshop:

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Virtually every town and village captured by Assad since hezbollah thugs came in in 2013 was depopulated aka ethnically cleansed starting from Quseir and Khirbzet Ghazale ending by Hader and El Eis.

In 2011-2012 Assad used to capture towns but then local population restored control back. Thats why they switched to ethnic cleansing strategy.

One can say the same for millions of Palestinians living in camps and slumdogs of neighboring countries .

Syrians will return to their country when the war is over but Zionists who are thirsty of blood and more territories not only stop Palestinians from returning but also make more refugees every day .

If we assume that Assad is ethnically cleansing Syrians , which is not true in first place , He is doing that for the sake of other Syrians but Zionists are killing people and destroying their homes in order to bring in more European and African Zionist so that they can build a fake nation and therefore a fake country .

Yet you shamelessly giving people that shit in this forum .
 
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the picture is what Israel say the missile did to hanit and I put it here for everyone to see it was not 165kg warhead of c-802 but 29kg warhead of a missile like kowsar,as anybody could clearly see a c-802 even of don't explode will do more damage than only 1m breech in the ship. and the waar crime was not the attack on the egyptian ship it was the mission of the ship which was to attack anything that was using the road to escape the cities or village around . they were there to stop civilians from escaping.

This article describes the action and claims two missile were involved in the attack.

http://defense-update.com/2006/07/ins-hanit-suffers-iranian-missile.html

Claims are that the C-802 sunk the Egyptian Vessel while the C-701 Kowsar hit the Hanit.
Seems You are trying to force Your way through an open door...

The official mission, was to enforce a blockade.
Any additional tasks are pure guesswork from Your side.

As before, any attacks on civilians must be put in context before You can
judge if it is a war crime or not.
 
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This article describes the action and claims two missile were involved in the attack.

Defense Update - News Analysis by David Eshel: INS Hanit Suffers Iranian Missile Attack

Claims are that the C-802 sunk the Egyptian Vessel while the C-701 Kowsar hit the Hanit.
Seems You are trying to force Your way through an open door...

The official mission, was to enforce a blockade.
Any additional tasks are pure guesswork from Your side.

As before, any attacks on civilians must be put in context before You can
judge if it is a war crime or not.
the article forget that the missile if loose its target can't lock on another target 60km away and the radar in the missile only have 20-30km away . the claim about c-802 only surfaced to hide the involvement of harpoon. Also the Egyptian ship , hannit and launch site weren't on a straight line so the missile continue to fly for 40km and then acquire the new target. Also the air of Lebanon was completely under control of Israel forces and there was no way they could hide big missile like c-802 and its launcher which is 3 time bigger than kowsar .and as I said c-802 need special radars to operate and no normal coastal radar can't talk with that missile .and for the record a TV guided kowsar don't have enough range to hit the Hanit as it was out of the range of the missile .it must have been a radar guided missile that have 10km longer range.

And honestly putting in context is fantastic thing you can do anything and put in in context and you can put anything Your adversary do out of context.
 
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the article forget that the missile if loose its target can't lock on another target 60km away and the radar in the missile only have 20-30km away . the claim about c-802 only surfaced to hide the involvement of harpoon. Also the Egyptian ship , hannit and launch site weren't on a straight line so the missile continue to fly for 40km and then acquire the new target. Also the air of Lebanon was completely under control of Israel forces and there was no way they could hide big missile like c-802 and its launcher which is 3 time bigger than kowsar .and as I said c-802 need special radars to operate and no normal coastal radar can't talk with that missile .and for the record a TV guided kowsar don't have enough range to hit the Hanit as it was out of the range of the missile .it must have been a radar guided missile that have 10km longer range.

And honestly putting in context is fantastic thing you can do anything and put in in context and you can put anything Your adversary do out of context.

So You have a theory without sources, NEXT!

I guess putting out unsubstantiate claims without sources results in convictions in front of Iran Mullahs,
but in the West You are considered innocent until proven guilty.
 
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And honestly putting in context is fantastic thing you can do anything and put in in context and you can put anything Your adversary do out of
So You have a theory without sources, NEXT!

I guess putting out unsubstantiate claims without sources results in convictions in front of Iran Mullahs,
but in the West You are considered innocent until proven guilty.
and what fact you guys have about c-802, have you guys ever seen one c-802 launcher in Lebanon ? . I put facts about the missile in front of you . its up to yourself to decide what to believe but your c802 theory have the problems of having nothing to back it , the missile behaviour is different from a typical c-802 and the damage is not like what c-802 do. So you are talking about another farfetched claim that there was two different launcher and c-802 after loosing its target do a more than 90 degree turn and fly for 40km blindly and then acquire the Egyptian ship and lick unto it and then destroy it.
 
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What else are you gonna expect from the Arabs. They can't do anything about the Israelis killing Palestinians, so they brand those who are fighting Israel as terrorists and take actions which has resulted in the killing of hundreds of thousands of muslims, while they bath in their riches. Pathetic.
Pure political BS. Palestinians are not even sincere with themselves right now, let along their cause of freedom. Hammas likes to keep Gaza in a worse economic shape because it helps the citizens depending solely upon them for power. Fatha is seems content with what they got and apparently in peace with Israel. For Arabs, Iran is the biggest threat, they don't give a sht about Palestine. For Iran, keeping Israel occupied by using Hezb and Hammas allows them to focus on harnessing proxies to expand influence. Probably its about time for people of open their eyes and start using their brains for good.

When did the HEC say we have no right to differing opinions. Stop making things up. Asking for liberal and secular rule in Pakistan has got no relation to supporting Israel. Hezbollah itself is not against development which makes it not a terrorist organization. ISIS and TTP are the real threats.
For 25 or so years, what has been the achievement of hezbullah other than the surrender of SLA and subsequent militarization of southern Lebanon? Lebanon remains in shambles even today with sovereignty divided between a militia and a government. Hezb and TTP/ISIS have the similar ideology only that the modus operandi are different.

You will see that even our Christian leadership like Nazar have denounced Israel. It has to do with having a neutral view of the situation. Israel bombs children and women in response to a single attack by Hamas or Hezbollah or even before.
Likewise Irani Americans have denounced Iran for decade, Ishapahni Jews have denounced Israel. The minorities have little political space, they tend to maneuver with the popular decision. If tomorrow GoP establishes the diplomatic ties with Israel, these groups will change their opinions accordingly.
 
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One can say the same for millions of Palestinians living in camps and slumdogs of neighboring countries .

Syrians will return to their country when the war is over but Zionists who are thirsty of blood and more territories not only stop Palestinians from returning but also make more refugees every day .

If we assume that Assad is ethnically cleansing Syrians , which is not true in first place , He is doing that for the sake of other Syrians but Zionists are killing people and destroying their homes in order to bring in more European and African Zionist so that they can build a fake nation and therefore a fake country .

Yet you shamelessly giving people that shit in this forum .
What happened in 1948 it was exchange of populations as result of the war (started by Palestinians) very similar to what happened between India and Pakistan in same time. Israel absorbed 850 thousand refugees from Arab countries while 700 thousand Palestinian still registered as "refugees" and get massive aid from UN. Palestinian neighborhoods are considered as "refugee camps" although they are nothing but regular neighborhoods.

Here infamous Yarmouk refugee camp in Damascus:

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Shuafat camp in Jerusalem:

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but also make more refugees every day .
There is no any new refugees. Who is making new Palestinian refugees is Assad with help of Iran. He slaughtered Palestinians in Lebanon many times, now he slaughters and starves them in Syria.

If this is the damage of 165kg of highly explosives material then I'm teddy bear .
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by the way , we knew what we gave Hezbollah , they only advertise the c-802 myth to hide the fact they thought the Egyptian ship attacked them and used a harpoon to sink it.
C-802 missile hit a crane, not a ship itself. As I said Nasrallah was sure that ship will sink.


You did not answer me who was lying u or Hezbollah.

Here is your claim:

Hezbollah could not fire more missile because you ordered all your ship to stay at least 100km away from Lebanon shore and that kowsar could not fly more than 20km.


Here Hezbollah claim from 11 August:

"At 2:05 pm (1105 GMT), while an Israeli Super Dvora warship was off the coast of Mansouri, south of the city of Tyre, and was aggressing our steadfast people and our civilian regions, the men of the Islamic Resistance attacked the ship with suitable weapons," a Hezbollah statement said.

"They scored a direct hit, destroying it, setting off a fire on it and sinking it," said the statement, read on Hezbollah's Al-Manar television.

"Other Israeli boats and zodiacs rushed to rescue its crew, made up of 12 officers and soldiers and who were killed, wounded or drowned," it said.


.:Middle East Online:::.

So who is lying here you or Hezbollah?
 
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What happened in 1948 it was exchange of populations as result of the war (started by Palestinians) very similar to what happened between India and Pakistan in same time. Israel absorbed 850 thousand refugees from Arab countries while 700 thousand Palestinian still registered as "refugees" and get massive aid from UN. Palestinian neighborhoods are considered as "refugee camps" although they are nothing but regular neighborhoods.

Here infamous Yarmouk refugee camp in Damascus:

Mideast-Syria_Horo-12-e1428335396801.jpg


Shuafat camp in Jerusalem:

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There is no any new refugees. Who is making new Palestinian refugees is Assad with help of Iran. He slaughtered Palestinians in Lebanon many times, now he slaughters and starves them in Syria.


C-802 missile hit a crane, not a ship itself. As I said Nasrallah was sure that ship will sink.


You did not answer me who was lying u or Hezbollah.

Here is your claim:

Hezbollah could not fire more missile because you ordered all your ship to stay at least 100km away from Lebanon shore and that kowsar could not fly more than 20km.


Here Hezbollah claim from 11 August:

"At 2:05 pm (1105 GMT), while an Israeli Super Dvora warship was off the coast of Mansouri, south of the city of Tyre, and was aggressing our steadfast people and our civilian regions, the men of the Islamic Resistance attacked the ship with suitable weapons," a Hezbollah statement said.

"They scored a direct hit, destroying it, setting off a fire on it and sinking it," said the statement, read on Hezbollah's Al-Manar television.

"Other Israeli boats and zodiacs rushed to rescue its crew, made up of 12 officers and soldiers and who were killed, wounded or drowned," it said.


.:Middle East Online:::.

So who is lying here you or Hezbollah?

So you are telling me that Palestinians are going to settle in new settlements of the West Bank ?
 
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A Palestinian diplomat dismantle Israel on a french tv


Despite the western couverture offered to the Rhodesian wart of the Middle East, it should be considered indefinitely a terrorist state like ALGERIA and HER 40 MILLIONS INHABITANTS.

Hizbollah is a political entity within Lebanon, with deputies in the Lebanese parlement, and it isn't up to the Sauds, the arab league to declare it a terrorist group. The" either you are with us or against us" is a Bush cowboy bravado stence. Selman is neither a cowboy or a BUSH, just a dusty stone age bedouin sporting a white abaya...
Israel is happy to see their nemesis" that handed her *** in her laps" declared terrorist organisation by the most backward human being of this world!
Hizbollah is going to survive as well Hamas, but I want give two nickels to Natanyahu's extreme right government or to the kingdom of darkness.
 
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And honestly putting in context is fantastic thing you can do anything and put in in context and you can put anything Your adversary do out of
and what fact you guys have about c-802, have you guys ever seen one c-802 launcher in Lebanon ? . I put facts about the missile in front of you . its up to yourself to decide what to believe but your c802 theory have the problems of having nothing to back it , the missile behaviour is different from a typical c-802 and the damage is not like what c-802 do. So you are talking about another farfetched claim that there was two different launcher and c-802 after loosing its target do a more than 90 degree turn and fly for 40km blindly and then acquire the Egyptian ship and lick unto it and then destroy it.

You made the accusation that the destruction of the Egyptian vessel was a war crime.
This means You need to back that claim.

It is interesting thst You know exactly the launching position,
but have no information about the missile type.
Maybe the launching position was different.
You show no sources proving the position of the launch, making Your theory
as loose as the rest.
 
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Give that bullshit to some sympathizer Europeans and Americans who willingly buy that so that they give you more nuclear warheads , fighter aircraft , submarines etc or make more Schindler's lists in Hollywood so the world pity you more .

The Zions have been killing and taking lands for 60 straight years and that's why all the Palestinians are encircled in Gaza and the West Bank with millions living miserably in neighboring countries camps and slumdogs .

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