This is different than Taliban and American,
Unless we want to annex Afghanistan as the 51st state, we are not going to stay in Afghanistan, Which mean one way or another we will "lose" that war, looking at it that way, what we are actually getting in Afghanistan? Nothing, not the land, not the resource and not their people. That war is like a business proposition, we stay as long as we think it's worth it. If it's not worth it, then even 1 dead is too many. There are nothing tying us over there, for an average American, they don't really care about how Afghan being govern. So do tell me, what is "winning' in that war? We stay there for 50 years? 100 years? Or is there a mark to kill like saying if we kill 1 million Taliban and we have won? Then what? what is the "winning" parameter?
Israel is another issue, they are next to it, they actually think they own Gaza, the issue here is, sure, you want them gone, then go where? That's the question for them, it's not like America, where we can leave and went back to US 10,000 miles away, they go back, they go back 16 kilometers away and then there are no way they will know even if they leave (which they actually did back in 2005) this is not gonna stop, now tell me, what is Israel incentive to stop?
You should know by now, I don't do bullshit, I don't comment on fantasy, or in a emotional level, I comment on what I think I don't care if this is Muslim and Jew, It could be Christian and Buddhist in this situation, it's going to be the same, in Afghanistan, we won't be there 100 years, because we don't live in Afghanistan, and we have no desire to make Afghanistan our own, so yes, Taliban can win after being bomb, strafe and kill in dove in 100 years, they are going nowhere and we have somewhere else to go, but this is not the same case between Palestinian and Israeli now, was it? Where can they go if they vacate? If you do this for 100 years, unless you can eliminate Israeli altogether, they are going to be right next to you in the next 100 years, and as my point state, unless Russia or US or China want to beat Israeli down for you, Hamas alone don't have enough power to bring it down, so if you are doing this for 50 or 100 years, the American story of defeat won't work. And quite frankly, it's naive to think something divine to happen and things will go your way all of a sudden. It may happen, never say never, but being a pragmatist, I jsut don't see it that way.