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Fury in China After an Outspoken Teacher Disappears​


Supporters of Li Tiantian believe that local officials may have sent her to a psychiatric hospital, a longstanding way of stifling and discrediting dissent.

An undated photograph of the teacher, Li Tiantian.

An undated photograph of the teacher, Li Tiantian.


Chinese social media sites have echoed for days with a question that has been met with silence by Communist Party officials: Where is Li Tiantian?

Ms. Li, an outspoken but previously little known teacher at a rural school in Hunan Province, southern China, disappeared after telling friends that police officers had forced their way into her home and were taking her to a psychiatric hospital. She told them the authorities had accused her of violating the bounds of officially acceptable comment on social media.

In recent weeks, Ms. Li had publicly sympathized with a teacher in Shanghai who was hounded online and fired after saying that there should be more rigorous study of China’s official death count for the Nanjing massacre, the Japanese Army’s murder of residents of that city in 1937.

“I’ve been targeted by public security,” Ms. Li said in one message to Cui Junjie, a friend who has galvanized support for Ms. Li on the internet. Mr. Cui shared screenshots of Ms. Li’s messages with The New York Times.

“I didn’t commit any crime, so I can never admit to one,” she told Mr. Cui. “But they want to seize the chance to convict me.”

Ms. Li, 27, has complained of bouts of depression. But many friends and supporters believe that she has become a victim of a decades-old practice in China: using psychiatric confinement to stifle dissenters. Even if she was unwell, they have said, enforced confinement was not an answer.

The authorities had stayed mostly mute about Ms. Li’s disappearance on Sunday and did not answer repeated phone calls from The New York Times. The local government of Xiangxi, the area of Hunan where Ms. Li lives, broke its silence on Friday, saying in a statement that she had checked into a hospital for psychiatric treatment at the behest of her family.

Unusually, China’s censors did not shut down a nationwide outpouring over several days of anger about Ms. Li’s disappearance, possibly because the central authorities saw the case as a messy controversy best left to the local authorities to clean up.

Many of the comments have been from supporters who see her as a symbol of the damage wrought by the Chinese government’s heavy-handed censorship under Xi Jinping, who has demanded political loyalty, including from teachers. Her supporters have also criticized nationalists who attacked Ms. Li online for bucking official orthodoxy. Ms. Li has also said she is four months pregnant, adding to fears for her safety.

“Restore her freedom and formally apologize,” Huang Jian, a commentator on Weibo, another popular social media platform, declared in a video statement. “Your ignorance, idiocy and barbarity are an utter disgrace for China.”

On Thursday, Hu Xijin, the recently retired chief editor of Global Times, a popular Communist Party-run newspaper, shared a video online in which a woman who described herself as Ms. Li’s mother said a relative working in the local education bureau had taken Ms. Li to a psychiatric hospital to treat her depression.

The Xiangxi government said in its statement on Friday that Ms. Li’s mother had agreed to her hospitalization after Ms. Li “suddenly lost control of her emotions and tried to take excessive steps” when officials came to her home. It said that Ms. Li still faced repercussions for her comments.

“As for her issuing inappropriate statements, after she leaves hospital, she will undergo education and counseling in line with the laws and regulations,” the Xiangxi government said.

The statement, however, failed to quell widespread skepticism on the Chinese internet about Ms. Li’s treatment.

In previous decades, Chinese officials regularly committedpersistent petitioners and protesters to psychiatric hospitals, drawing criticism from human rights advocates and doctors. Gao Jian, a Chinese writer who recently published a book on the topic, said in an interview that the practice was less frequent, but that it still took place.

“This tool of treating someone as mentally ill is still quite a useful one for local governments,” Mr. Gao said in messaged responses to questions. “It’s a way of completely skating around the law.”

 
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Someone in China being sent for psychological treatment is somehow news... Wtf
 
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Did you even read the news, Mr. VPN from USA?
The Xiangxi government said in its statement on Friday that Ms. Li’s mother had agreed to her hospitalization after Ms. Li “suddenly lost control of her emotions and tried to take excessive steps” when officials came to her home. It said that Ms. Li still faced repercussions for her comments.

“As for her issuing inappropriate statements, after she leaves hospital, she will undergo education and counseling in line with the laws and regulations,” the Xiangxi government said.
 
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The Xiangxi government said in its statement on Friday that Ms. Li’s mother had agreed to her hospitalization after Ms. Li “suddenly lost control of her emotions and tried to take excessive steps” when officials came to her home. It said that Ms. Li still faced repercussions for her comments.

“As for her issuing inappropriate statements, after she leaves hospital, she will undergo education and counseling in line with the laws and regulations,” the Xiangxi government said.
Your comprehension suddenly woke up, I see. I guess understanding the part about activists been put in psychiatric care was gibberish to you.

Look, satellite internet is going to make the great wall of internet in China irrelevant. Its better to grow some immunity to criticism than to keep employing cold-war tactics & supplement it with a bot army for making noise. China must now evolve, otherwise the speed of change will create serious problems.
 
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Your comprehension suddenly woke up, I see. I guess understanding the part about activists been put in psychiatric care was gibberish to you.

Look, satellite internet is going to make the great wall of internet in China irrelevant. Its better to grow some immunity to criticism than to keep employing cold-war tactics & supplement it with a bot army for making noise. China must now evolve, otherwise the speed of change will create serious problems.
I think you failed to see the point. There is no transparent or free media from western. The western media will do whatever they can to undermined China. Be it wrong too. They try to spin every story in China into sometime unequal or oppressive story.

If the woman is really mad and spew nonsense, sending her to psychology is something of a normal.

Anybody who believe western had true free and transparent media are somehow in self denying.



 
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Fury in China After an Outspoken Teacher Disappears​


Supporters of Li Tiantian believe that local officials may have sent her to a psychiatric hospital, a longstanding way of stifling and discrediting dissent.

An undated photograph of the teacher, Li Tiantian.

An undated photograph of the teacher, Li Tiantian.


Chinese social media sites have echoed for days with a question that has been met with silence by Communist Party officials: Where is Li Tiantian?

Ms. Li, an outspoken but previously little known teacher at a rural school in Hunan Province, southern China, disappeared after telling friends that police officers had forced their way into her home and were taking her to a psychiatric hospital. She told them the authorities had accused her of violating the bounds of officially acceptable comment on social media.

In recent weeks, Ms. Li had publicly sympathized with a teacher in Shanghai who was hounded online and fired after saying that there should be more rigorous study of China’s official death count for the Nanjing massacre, the Japanese Army’s murder of residents of that city in 1937.

“I’ve been targeted by public security,” Ms. Li said in one message to Cui Junjie, a friend who has galvanized support for Ms. Li on the internet. Mr. Cui shared screenshots of Ms. Li’s messages with The New York Times.

“I didn’t commit any crime, so I can never admit to one,” she told Mr. Cui. “But they want to seize the chance to convict me.”

Ms. Li, 27, has complained of bouts of depression. But many friends and supporters believe that she has become a victim of a decades-old practice in China: using psychiatric confinement to stifle dissenters. Even if she was unwell, they have said, enforced confinement was not an answer.

The authorities had stayed mostly mute about Ms. Li’s disappearance on Sunday and did not answer repeated phone calls from The New York Times. The local government of Xiangxi, the area of Hunan where Ms. Li lives, broke its silence on Friday, saying in a statement that she had checked into a hospital for psychiatric treatment at the behest of her family.

Unusually, China’s censors did not shut down a nationwide outpouring over several days of anger about Ms. Li’s disappearance, possibly because the central authorities saw the case as a messy controversy best left to the local authorities to clean up.

Many of the comments have been from supporters who see her as a symbol of the damage wrought by the Chinese government’s heavy-handed censorship under Xi Jinping, who has demanded political loyalty, including from teachers. Her supporters have also criticized nationalists who attacked Ms. Li online for bucking official orthodoxy. Ms. Li has also said she is four months pregnant, adding to fears for her safety.

“Restore her freedom and formally apologize,” Huang Jian, a commentator on Weibo, another popular social media platform, declared in a video statement. “Your ignorance, idiocy and barbarity are an utter disgrace for China.”

On Thursday, Hu Xijin, the recently retired chief editor of Global Times, a popular Communist Party-run newspaper, shared a video online in which a woman who described herself as Ms. Li’s mother said a relative working in the local education bureau had taken Ms. Li to a psychiatric hospital to treat her depression.

The Xiangxi government said in its statement on Friday that Ms. Li’s mother had agreed to her hospitalization after Ms. Li “suddenly lost control of her emotions and tried to take excessive steps” when officials came to her home. It said that Ms. Li still faced repercussions for her comments.

“As for her issuing inappropriate statements, after she leaves hospital, she will undergo education and counseling in line with the laws and regulations,” the Xiangxi government said.

The statement, however, failed to quell widespread skepticism on the Chinese internet about Ms. Li’s treatment.

In previous decades, Chinese officials regularly committedpersistent petitioners and protesters to psychiatric hospitals, drawing criticism from human rights advocates and doctors. Gao Jian, a Chinese writer who recently published a book on the topic, said in an interview that the practice was less frequent, but that it still took place.

“This tool of treating someone as mentally ill is still quite a useful one for local governments,” Mr. Gao said in messaged responses to questions. “It’s a way of completely skating around the law.”

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I think you failed to see the point. There is no transparent or free media from western. The western media will do whatever they can to undermined China. Be it wrong too. They try to spin every story in China into sometime unequal or oppressive story.

If the woman is really mad and spew nonsense, sending her to psychology is something of a normal.

Anybody who believe western had true free and transparent media are somehow in self denying.



Look buddy - I am a friend. I see trends & I hope Chinese adapt. The old approach plus an army of apologists just would not cut it anymore.

Not all critics are mad. Many are actually patriotic. I say this because I am a very strong critic of Army's political role in politics in Pakistan. Some ultra-nationalists may consider me unpatriotic, but I have constitutional guarantees of freedom (which may or may not work). So, I am not a psychiatric patient but actually a patriot. It is the same everywhere, including China. Repeat after me "Dissent is patriotic" :-)
 
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Look buddy - I am a friend. I see trends & I hope Chinese adapt. The old approach plus an army of apologists just would not cut it anymore.

Not all critics are mad. Many are actually patriotic. I say this because I am a very strong critic of Army's political role in politics in Pakistan. Some ultra-nationalists may consider me unpatriotic, but I have constitutional guarantees of freedom (which may or may not work). So, I am not a psychiatric patient but actually a patriot. It is the same everywhere, including China. Repeat after me "Dissent is patriotic" :-)
The problem is , she is not critics. Just a made woman which western decide to spin and claim she is just some outspoken critic. Do you know Ai Wei Wei? This idiot insult all Chinese and claim we shall be enslave by western. Is this critics? More like a western slave. Do you think we can achieve our own space station or even land a rover on Mars if we follow this idiot advise?

There are many time Chinese critics allow to make their presence felt online. Constructive critics are always welcome. But malicious lies or slandering are banned. If not, how did so many corruption cases are uncovered in China? You think US media is real free and all views are allowed to be presented or discuss? I can assure you, they are as selective as Chinese media. Just like how they try portray Uyghur in China while zero mention of Indian muslim. A black celebrity try to talk about Indian farmer protest and was quickly shut off and criticize full force by the usual US media.

China is not some north korea. There is a big reason why even a elite like Eileen Gu take up Chinese nationality or large pool of expatriate working in China with ease.

Look at the Taiwan style of free media. It is slowly brainwashing and turning the Taiwan society into a place full of malicious lies and toxic environment. Becos its so free that any lies and smearing can be make up and with no consequences. The young generation of Taiwanese are living in this kind of toxic media where self analysis are not even allowed. Facts and lies are in a big grey zone, impeding the judgement of ordinary people.

 
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The fools who are brainwashed by fake news from western media always think China is evil, but when these media criticize their home country, these fools say, this is not true, :omghaha: :omghaha: :omghaha:
They most like to flaunt objectivity, neutrality, rationality, and independent thinking.
 
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No society can afford "absolute" freedom of expression. There have to be limits.
 
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disappeared after telling friends that police officers had forced their way into her home and were taking her to a psychiatric hospital.


The u.s authorities been actively throwing goyims/dissidents with above sub par intellect into That coke addict junkie Freud's dungeons, psychiatric wards ,since the 50's.


Mix something into their drink and call 911 or make up a story how he was found conscious in his apartement and the doctors diagnosed him with some brain malfunction . "pateints" are then subjected to worst kind of mental , physical and drug abuse until they actually turn insane or give in with a warning that you could be dragged back again as well. Besides a 5$ tip to the warden could get anyone the lady of their choice .


Where as the hard nuts are lobotomised ------.
@I.R.A
 
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Real or fake news aside. Here is the back ground of the story.

Several months ago, A video drove Chinese netizens angry. In which a pro Japan teacher denied victims number of Nanjing massacre in class and told her students "We should introspect why the war happened". Among all criticisms, some people supported this teacher. This Li Tiantian is one of the supporters.

This is not about freedom of speech. This is like a Jew supports Nazi. A Muslim supports Israel.

 
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Look buddy - I am a friend. I see trends & I hope Chinese adapt. The old approach plus an army of apologists just would not cut it anymore.

Not all critics are mad. Many are actually patriotic. I say this because I am a very strong critic of Army's political role in politics in Pakistan. Some ultra-nationalists may consider me unpatriotic, but I have constitutional guarantees of freedom (which may or may not work). So, I am not a psychiatric patient but actually a patriot. It is the same everywhere, including China. Repeat after me "Dissent is patriotic" :-)
Not going to happen. China has a different political system. With a different political system it will have different rules. It's a one party state. You cannot undermine it's power. Or there will be chaos.

So far it's done a good job. It's working very well. Let's keep it that way.
 
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