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Funded by China, Pakistan's First Mass Transit Project Lahore Metro Rail Conducts Trial Run

Sir it mean barbers and mechanics have no right to travel in good transport. Are they insects? Only business class have to travel respect full manners. ..sorry i disagree with you.
By the time they were building infrastructure to 'drive growth', their literacy rate, health services, universities, institutions, rule of law were exemplary. The main idea is to prioritize such projects.

What is the benefit of the orange line when 95% of the people traveling on the buses will be workshop mechanics, barbers, stalkers, high schoolers and not a large number of businessmen, entrepreneurs and employees of multinationals.

The huge cost of the orange line will not be repaid by the barbers and mechanics because they wont be adding anything significant to the economy. The ones who had to add something to the economy are either uneducated due to the collapsed education system or if they were lucky to get good education, they are sitting in Europe and N.America.
 
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By the time they were building infrastructure to 'drive growth', their literacy rate, health services, universities, institutions, rule of law were exemplary. The main idea is to prioritize such projects.

What is the benefit of the orange line when 95% of the people traveling on the buses will be workshop mechanics, barbers, stalkers, high schoolers and not a large number of businessmen, entrepreneurs and employees of multinationals.

The huge cost of the orange line will not be repaid by the barbers and mechanics because they wont be adding anything significant to the economy. The ones who had to add something to the economy are either uneducated due to the collapsed education system or if they were lucky to get good education, they are sitting in Europe and N.America.
Another BS nonsense by you. By your theory, we shall let all low skill worker rot and all good benefit goes to to upper class or white collar workers? If you are barber, you will always be barber. If you are mechanics, you will always be mechanics? Your analogy sounds like Indian caste system. Can't believe Pakistanis has mentality of you.

Sir it mean barbers and mechanics have no right to travel in good transport. Are they insects? Only business class have to travel respect full manners. ..sorry i disagree with you.
This forum has been invaded by large numbers of anti-Pakistan and anti-China haters who goes out all length to come out with all kind of BS to distort or disrupt Pakistan/China relationship. Once you stay in this forum long enough, you will understand my previous sentence.
 
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I notice the similar tone by Slayer when China helps Kenya build the Mombasa Kenya railway
Since the Chinese 'Help' Kenya is in a huge debt that they are planning to lease their main port to China. What a F'ing surprise.:lol:
 
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Since the Chinese 'Help'. Kenya is in a huge debt. That they are planning to lease their main port to China. What a F'ing surprise.:lol:
By who? western news? Western is good in exaggerating or come up with fake news to distort the fact.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/04/china/cameroon-china-debt-relief-intl/index.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrap...ebt-cuba-accounts-for-over-half/#124cbbf4615b

SL previous has a president install by RAW and is hostile to China. So we need to teach RAW and him a lesson. Now a pro-China president is installed. SL will benefit more from China economy aid.
 
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By who? western news? Western is good in exaggerating or come up with fake news to distort the fact.
lol! Then why are you quoting western news here? When it runs anything negative it's fake?

Kenyan project is now called a railroad to nowhere. The much celebrated Kenyan railway is stuck from it's initial plan as it ends in some remote village and costs $12 million per KM. The bullet train construction in India costs the same.
 
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So an indian channel talking about domestic transport projects of Pakistan.:p:


No they wanted to highlight "funded by China".
But how exactly is it funded by China when its money to be paid back?
 
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Kenyan project is now called a railroad to nowhere. The much celebrated Kenyan railway is stuck from it's initial plan as it ends in some remote village and costs $12 million per KM. The bullet train construction in India costs the same.
Another fake lies by you...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa–Nairobi_Standard_Gauge_Railway

3.23billion USD divided by 485km... You do the maths. USD7 million per km.

Typical slayer tactics to smear China. You need to take note, this railway included construction cost cutting thru kenya national park that need additional cost which is factor in, is dirt cheap compare to what France, US or Japan build if similar.
 
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By the time they were building infrastructure to 'drive growth', their literacy rate, health services, universities, institutions, rule of law were exemplary. The main idea is to prioritise such projects

I disagree, Britain became a superpower and a colonial empire long before its citizens were guaranteed healthcare (post WWII), even long after Britain outlawed child labour (first quarter of 20th century) and then later introduced universal education with increasing years. Same goes for the US and elsewhere.

Granted, you may ague that world progress is such that ending child labour, access to healthcare and education, are all basic requirements by today’s standards. But you are still wrong to criticise infrastructure spending.

Just now we’re seeing a current account crisis, our exports are woeful and imports too high. As a result, public spending is being cut on everything, from education and other services which you have mentioned to CapEx. If you do not have energy infrastructure to power industry, roads and rail to transport goods and people, increase mobility of labour and capital, port infrastructure to export, then you can’t build the basis for an economy that can sustain a British style NHS healthcare system which costs them $150 billion a year for one third of the population of Pakistan.

You can make some valid arguments for focusing more on boosting literacy, providing basic healthcare better so people don’t die of completely preventable illnesses etc. But your criticism of infrastructure spending is invalid IMO. Especially as we’re discussing Pakistan, our infrastructure is poor and in a country where nothing is done properly, to have a quality rail project completed successfully is something to celebrate. Just ask people of Karachi, including poorer residents, how much a few Lahore style metro, road and orange line projects will change their lives.
 
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Wrong, Britain became a superpower and a colonial empire long before its citizens were guaranteed healthcare (post WWII), even long after Britain outlawed child labour (first quarter of 20th century) and then later introduced universal education with increasing years. Same goes for the US and elsewhere.

Granted, you may ague that word progress is such that ending child labour, access to healthcare and education, are all basic requirements by today’s standards. But you are still wrong to criticise infrastructure spending.

Just now we’re seeing a current account crisis, our exports are woeful and imports too high. As a result, public spending is being cut on everything, from education and other services which you have mentioned to CapEx. If you do not have energy infrastructure to power industry, roads and rail to transport goods and people, increase mobility of labour and capital, port infrastructure to export, then you can’t build the basis for an economy that can sustain a British style NHS healthcare system which costs them $150 billion a year for one third of the population of Pakistan.

You can make some valid arguments for focusing more on boosting literacy, providing basic healthcare better so people don’t die of completely preventable illnesses etc. But your criticism of infrastructure spending is invalid IMO. Especially as we’re discussing Pakistan, our infrastructure is poor and in a country where nothing is done properly, to have a quality rail project completed successfully is something to celebrate. Just ask people of Karachi, including poorer residents, how much a few Lahore style metro, road and orange line projects will change their lives.
What if they expanded metro instead of starting a new project???
 
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Another fake lies by you...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa–Nairobi_Standard_Gauge_Railway

3.23billion USD divided by 485km... You do the maths. USD7 million per km.
:lol:Boi, do you seriously even read anything? Quick wikipedia search gives planned cost, not the actual cost. Now here is something you have already opened at the cost of $1.5 billion friggin 120 Km, this line is going nowhere rather a cosmetic step. There was no more funding for the project after Chinese banks cut funding for it, as it is not seen feasible.
https://www.voanews.com/africa/kenya-opens-second-phase-massive-railway-project

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...-road-leaves-kenya-with-a-railroad-to-nowhere

Next time no bragging please. I have no time to crack your bullshit.
As for cost cutting, India have to tunnel a whole stretch under the sea for it's bullet train and still, it'd cost only $15 million per Km. Also, the constructions in Japan and france will always be high, because their labor cost is high. How high is labor cost in Kenya? Probably you imported Chinese prison slaves. Who knows.
 
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Karachi desperately need this, circular railway, better Buses as well ..
Agree, a promising investment and ROI. Only problem is Karachi past. PPP corruption and MQM militancy. People are scared to take investment risk.

and that’s is why law and order and punishment system is so important. Yet to see political killers and thugs receiving justice.
 
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:lol:Boi, do you seriously even read anything? Quick wikipedia search gives planned cost, not the actual cost. Now here is something you have already opened at the cost of $1.5 billion friggin 120 Km, this line is going nowhere rather a cosmetic step. There was no more funding for the project after Chinese banks cut funding for it, as it is not seen feasible.
https://www.voanews.com/africa/kenya-opens-second-phase-massive-railway-project

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...-road-leaves-kenya-with-a-railroad-to-nowhere

Next time no bragging please. I have no time to crack your bullshit.
As for cost cutting, India have to tunnel a whole stretch under the sea for it's bullet train and still, it'd cost only $15 million per Km. Also, the constructions in Japan and france will always be high, because their labor cost is high. How high is labor cost in Kenya? Probably you imported Chinese prison slaves. Who knows.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_India

LOL.. You used an anti-China false link to paint false data? From Wiki is clearly mention 3.23 billion in 2 loan. I dont know why you keep harping on your fake lies...

Then I can say your 12million per km for Indian high speed rail is BS. In the wiki is claimed estimated and now we know the construction has even delay to 2021. So your BS of Kenya more expensive than Indian high speed rail is just your imagination.. Indian high speed rail cost will definitely balloon.

China rail cost is still much cheaper than French, Japan or German build or whoever build if similar.
 
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Agree, a promising investment and ROI. Only problem is Karachi past. PPP corruption and MQM militancy. People are scared to take investment risk.

and that’s is why law and order and punishment system is so important. Yet to see political killers and thugs receiving justice.

yaar I mean Govt projects, Private company's might still be unsure about Karachi but Federal govt needs to put some cash in Mass Transit Projects, Karachi can make even more revenue if its full potential is utilized .
We have Metro Bus project still not up and running yet, we need Metro line Train and Circular railway which will reduce time by a lot .
 
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