Full Solidarity? Greece Joins Veto Against EU Sanctions on Russian Ships

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Full Solidarity? Greece Joins Veto Against EU Sanctions on Russian Ships​

April 18, 2022
By The National Herald

FILE- Greek Cabinet and lawmakers applaud as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, on the screen, thanks after addressing Greek Parliament in Athens, Greece, Thursday, April 7, 2022. (AP Photo/Thanassis Stavrakis)

ATHENS – The same day that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky made an online appeal to Greece’s Parliament to help fight Russian invaders, the New Democracy government helped veto any European Union sanctions on Russian ships.

That was joined by Cyprus and Malta, said the site EURACTIV, blocking any ban on Russians ships coming into the bloc that would have also kept Greek ships from going to Russia on business.

Greece’s shipping industry is the world’s biggest and virtually untaxed and has considerable weight and influence politically but it wasn’t said if the government was bending to the oligarchs.

The European Commission had proposed banning all ships with a Russian flag or with a Flag of Convenience from another country – many Greek ships use the practice to avoid paying taxes.

The report said that the governments of the three countries prevented the penalties as Zelensky made a passionate speech to Greek lawmakers, citing the ancient Gree battle cry of Freedom or Death during the Ottoman Occupation.

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis was among the first to denounce the invasion and his government immediately sent military gear and weapons but has since pulled back, barring any more shipments.

He said there would be “full solidarity” with Ukraine but Zelensky said similar claims by EU and other country’s leaders should be followed up with sending more arms to help fight back Russian troops, not just their tweets of support.

The EU has also exempted two Russian banks dealing with oil and gas from sanctions against financial institutions and the bloc – depending on Russian energy for up to 40 percent of its needs – is still buying it, ignoring Zelensky’s pleas.

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@Apollon

 

[Foinikas]

The report said that the governments of the three countries prevented the penalties as Zelensky made a passionate speech to Greek lawmakers, citing the ancient Gree battle cry of Freedom or Death during the Ottoman Occupation.

And yet didn't even mention Cyprus. He presented an ape fighting in the Azov battalion saying he's an "Ethnic Greek". Meanwhile the Azov guy didn't even speak any greek.

 

[Apollon]

And yet didn't even mention Cyprus. He presented an ape fighting in the Azov battalion saying he's an "Ethnic Greek". Meanwhile the Azov guy didn't even speak any greek.

You dont need to speak greek to be an ethnic greek. Dude you have sunken so deep in nazi ideology. I think you missed the point of no return.

Beside that. What does church say about calling people ape?

 

[Foinikas]

You dont need to speak greek to be an ethnic greek. Dude you have sunken so deep in nazi ideology. I think you missed the point of no return.

Beside that. What does church say about calling people ape?

YOU accuse me of "nazi ideology"? You?

The guy who constantly rants about Western supremacy and European superior values and has mocked Asians,Africans and others as basically,subhuman?

You supposedly follow this war,how many Greeks or Ukrainians with Greek origins have you seen,talking to the TV channels since the war started? They spoke Greek so well,you could easily understand them. Even the ones who only had Greek origin but were mostly Ukrainian. They spoke Greek. Some of them even with a broken accent and a few words.

This ape here,didn't say a single word in Greek,in a message that was going to be shown in the Greek parliament.

He is exactly like those fake "ethnic Greeks" from the Caucasus who come here and are given nationality,welfare,car etc. And all the while,they don't speak a single word of Greek and probably had an ancestor of Greek origin centuries centuries ago. Then you hear about them on the news,being involved in mafia and the most brutal crimes.

People that you would have seen in the street and mocked and avoided. And I wouldn't blame you,but don't you come here and accuse me of "nazi ideology".

You only support this guy,because's he's on the Ukrainian side. Even if he fights for Azov!

 

[Apollon]

YOU accuse me of "nazi ideology"? You?

The guy who constantly rants about Western supremacy and European superior values and has mocked Asians,Africans and others as basically,subhuman?

You supposedly follow this war,how many Greeks or Ukrainians with Greek origins have you seen,talking to the TV channels since the war started? They spoke Greek so well,you could easily understand them. Even the ones who only had Greek origin but were mostly Ukrainian. They spoke Greek. Some of them even with a broken accent and a few words.

This ape here,didn't say a single word in Greek,in a message that was going to be shown in the Greek parliament.

He is exactly like those fake "ethnic Greeks" from the Caucasus who come here and are given nationality,welfare,car etc. And all the while,they don't speak a single word of Greek and probably had an ancestor of Greek origin centuries centuries ago. Then you hear about them on the news,being involved in mafia and the most brutal crimes.

People that you would have seen in the street and mocked and avoided. And I wouldn't blame you,but don't you come here and accuse me of "nazi ideology".

You only support this guy,because's he's on the Ukrainian side. Even if he fights for Azov!

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My mother is greek, my father is german. Guess in your weird worldview im not greek as well.

You calling people ape is nazi ideology

 

[Foinikas]

My mother is greek, my father is german. Guess in your weird worldview im not greek as well.

You calling people ape is nazi ideology

Guess you started assuming stuff and haven't understood a single thing I said above.

 

[Apollon]

Guess you started assuming stuff and haven't understood a single thing I said above.

I understand your bizarre world view quite well.

 

[Foinikas]

I understand your bizarre world view quite well.

Do you understand the irony of accusing me of "nazi ideology",while you support Azov Batallion?

 

[Apollon]

Do you understand the irony of accusing me of "nazi ideology",while you support Azov Batallion?

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And? Putins Wagner mercs have SS runes tattooed on their necks. Russia has largest numbers of neo nazis in europe.


The irony is, that its orthodox fanatics who usually look the most ungreek way.

 

[Foinikas]

And? Putins Wagner mercs have SS runes tattooed on their necks. Russia has largest numbers of neo nazis in europe.


The irony is, that its orthodox fanatics who usually look the most ungreek way.

Yes,but they are mercenaries. They are a supposedly "Private Security Company".

Yet it's Ukraine who started using openly ultra-nationalist ideology and neo-nazis as part of its armed forces after 2014.

Svoboda and Pravii Sektor who are two of the main Ukrainian parties who started Euromaidan and held power right after they toppled the government. They both have ultra-nationalist and Banderist ideology with many neo-nazi and slavic paganist elements.

Here's how this infamous neo-nazi Ukrainian was portrayed in the West,as the Ukrainian "Joan of Arc".

She was fighting for Aidar Batallion,one of the infamous ultra-nationalist volunteer batallions like Azov and Dnipro.

And yet you talk about freedom,democracy,human rights,while you support such people. Who have officially adopted Banderist and WWII collaborationist ideology.

And you call me a "religious fanatic". Because...what? Because I support Orthodoxy? Supporting Orthodoxy does not automatically mean support Russia and especially Putin. However,it doesn't mean I should fall for Western propaganda and bull. I've seen how they manipulated Western public opinion many times,the last 30 years. And like I've told you a gazillion times since the beginning: Try to be objective.

But you're not. You don't want to be.

Let me remind you,the Bulgarians are Orthodox,we've had some of the most vicious wars against them. The Skopjans are Orthodox,we despise them because of their lies and irridentist claims.

So stop slandering me and saying that "religious fanatics act in the most ungreek way". Because,being a believer does not automatically make you a "fanatic" and not supporting Ukraine does not automatically make you "ungreek".

 

[Apollon]

Yes,but they are mercenaries. They are a supposedly "Private Security Company".

Yet it's Ukraine who started using openly ultra-nationalist ideology and neo-nazis as part of its armed forces after 2014.

Svoboda and Pravii Sektor who are two of the main Ukrainian parties who started Euromaidan and held power right after they toppled the government. They both have ultra-nationalist and Banderist ideology with many neo-nazi and slavic paganist elements.

Here's how this infamous neo-nazi Ukrainian was portrayed in the West,as the Ukrainian "Joan of Arc".

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She was fighting for Aidar Batallion,one of the infamous ultra-nationalist volunteer batallions like Azov and Dnipro.

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And yet you talk about freedom,democracy,human rights,while you support such people. Who have officially adopted Banderist and WWII collaborationist ideology.

And you call me a "religious fanatic". Because...what? Because I support Orthodoxy? Supporting Orthodoxy does not automatically mean support Russia and especially Putin. However,it doesn't mean I should fall for Western propaganda and bull. I've seen how they manipulated Western public opinion many times,the last 30 years. And like I've told you a gazillion times since the beginning: Try to be objective.

But you're not. You don't want to be.

Let me remind you,the Bulgarians are Orthodox,we've had some of the most vicious wars against them. The Skopjans are Orthodox,we despise them because of their lies and irridentist claims.

So stop slandering me and saying that "religious fanatics act in the most ungreek way". Because,being a believer does not automatically make you a "fanatic" and not supporting Ukraine does not automatically make you "ungreek".

Well supporting putins hordes is ungreek in evry way. Have you seen what they do? What they look like?

 

[Foinikas]

Well supporting putins hordes is ungreek in evry way. Have you seen what they do? What they look like?

In which language do I have to say it,so that you can understand it in your mind,that I do not support the invasion and I think it was wrong for them to start this operation?

How many times exactly do I have to say so that you understand it?

But tell me,where were you to condemn Poroshenko's hordes in 2015 and onwards?

You know what is very ungreek? Supporting every invasion and proxy war certain interests fuel in the world and thinking they defend freedom and justice.

 

[Apollon]

In which language do I have to say it,so that you can understand it in your mind,that I do not support the invasion and I think it was wrong for them to start this operation?

How many times exactly do I have to say so that you understand it?

But tell me,where were you to condemn Poroshenko's hordes in 2015 and onwards?

You know what is very ungreek? Supporting every invasion and proxy war certain interests fuel in the world and thinking they defend freedom and justice.

Well Ukraine now has its war of independence just as we had from the ottomans.

 

[Foinikas]

Well Ukraine now has its war of independence just as we had from the ottomans.

We had no relation to the Ottomans. This is like Cyprus vs mainland Greece.

 

[pak1234]

Interesting