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France's Beef With Islam

The French, as no one really needs to be reminded, take their food pretty seriously. So perhaps it shouldn't have been shocking that recent revelations that the country's halal butchers have been quietly selling their surplus to non-halal distributors has emerged as a hot-button presidential campaign issue at a time when candidates might be expected to focus more on unemployment or the spiraling European economic crisis.

The tabloid-ready story, first raised in a public television documentary in mid-February, has given far-right presidential candidate Marine Le Pen the chance to point out yet another capitulation to Islam under President Nicolas Sarkozy's watch. With characteristic embellishment, Le Pen claimed on Feb. 18 that all meat eaten in the Paris region is now slaughtered according to Islamic ritual.

Sarkozy visited a meat locker to deny her claims, saying less than 3 percent of meat consumed in France is halal (or kosher), and the government announced a new system for tracing slaughtered animals. But the scandal, pardon the pun, had legs: Non-Muslim French people have unwittingly eaten thousands of tons of halal meat. Sensing a political opening, the National Front leader filed consumer fraud and animal cruelty lawsuits on Feb. 23 to keep the issue alive.

Faced with the reality of public opinion that is receptive to the halal issue, Sarkozy and his lieutenants decided that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. The interior minister warned that granting municipal voting rights to foreigners could lead to halal meat being imposed on school cafeterias. The president threw his support behind the National Front's proposal to label all halal meat and told reporters that halal meat is the "number one issue" on the French electorate's mind.

But the halal meat scandal has revealed a hidden weakness in Sarkozy's reelection strategy. Since his rightward lurch in the French culture wars during the 2007 elections, he has managed to outstrip Le Pen's National Front at its own game by declaring "multiculturalism" a failure, supporting several efforts to ban the wearing of burqas, and starting a national debate on the theme of French "identity." Taking up his earlier argument of five years ago that the National Front should not be allowed a "monopoly" over the theme of French nationhood, Sarkozy told supporters on March 5 that national identity is "not a bad word." But in the high-stakes game of culture-war politics, staying one move ahead of the National Front requires constant vigilance.

The French always want to know exactly what they're eating -- be it genetically modified corn or halal beef. Brouhahas have raged before over the kind of meat sold in supermarket and fast-food chains. In fact, the nearly $6 billion halal market is worth one-and-a-half times the organic meat business. France has an estimated 3.1 million consumers of halal meat, and fully 44 percent of non-practicing Muslims say they purchase it exclusively.
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Since the start of the 2012 campaign, Sarkozy and his deputies have continued to blow their dog whistles to the far right. On Feb. 5, the interior minister ventured, "Unlike the left, we do not believe all civilizations are equal." The next day, he announced new naturalization standards for immigrants. Three days after that, he ordered the expulsion of a radical imam. The president promised a center-right newspaper that he would keep immigration and identity at the heart of his platform -- and he delivered


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France's Beef With Islam - By Jonathan Laurence | Foreign Policy
 
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I agree there is nothing extremist about eating beef. I also agree that there is huge Islamophobia in the West. But the behavior of the Muslims is the reason why Islam is so grossly misunderstood in the West. This is because of the lack of knowledge of true Islamic fundamentals in the Muslim world, which results in them giving a bad image of Islam in the West & all over the world. Muslim majority societies in the East & the West are known for their lack of progressiveness, suppression, intolerance, chauvinism, amongst many other things. Everything Islam does not stand for.

I do think the West has acted irrationally against Muslims & Islam. But Muslims all over the world (bar some exceptions) have provided the perfect ammo for them to hold their bigoted/prejudiced beliefs.



P.S. Notice that I didn't say Islamic extremism (in my first post), but Muslim extremism. Extremism is not a part of Islam.
 
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One can opinion-ate or recommend. But don't force. For that will be a contradiction as per their ideology.

---------- Post added at 01:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:17 PM ----------

I agree there is nothing extremist about eating beef. I also agree that there is huge Islamophobia in the West. But the behavior of the Muslims is the reason why Islam is so grossly misunderstood in the West. This is because of the lack of knowledge of true Islamic fundamentals in the Muslim world, which results in them giving a bad image of Islam in the West & all over the world. Muslim majority societies in the East & the West are known for their lack of progressiveness, intolerance, chauvinism, amongst many other things. Everything Islam does not stand for.

There are such problems in European countries concentrated in certain areas.

And actually, Muslims in the US do pretty well.

But time will pass as the new generations take lead of their lives. I have known British-Bangladeshi celebrities who originally came from highly religious families. And now they are doing well. Example: Konnie Huq.

And if Westerners choose to be ignorant, well that is their choice. We can't force them.
 
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One can opinion-ate or recommend. But don't force. For that will be a contradiction as per their ideology.

---------- Post added at 01:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:17 PM ----------



There are such problems in European countries concentrated in certain areas.

And actually, Muslims in the US do pretty well.

But time will pass as the new generations take lead of their lives. I have known British-Bangladeshi celebrities who originally came from highly religious families. And now they are doing well. Example: Konnie Huq.

And if Westerners choose to be ignorant, well that is their choice. We can't force them.

We can argue that the Muslims living in America are much more liberal/secular than the common Muslim around the world. Muslims have to learn how to acclimatize in different societies better.

I do think the West has acted irrationally against Muslims & Islam. But Muslims all over the world (bar some exceptions) have provided the perfect ammo for them to hold their bigoted/prejudiced beliefs.
 
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We can argue that the Muslims living in America are much more liberal/secular than the common Muslim. Muslims have to learn how to acclimatize in different societies better.

I do think the West has acted irrationally against Muslims & Islam. But Muslims all over the world (bar some exceptions) have provided the perfect ammo for them to hold their bigoted/prejudiced beliefs.

The whole point of the OP is that European bigots are against ALL Muslims. This discussion is not about Muslim extremism; these bigots are against kosher meat also.
 
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I agree there is nothing extremist about eating beef. I also agree that there is huge Islamophobia in the West. But the behavior of the Muslims is the reason why Islam is so grossly misunderstood in the West. This is because of the lack of knowledge of true Islamic fundamentals in the Muslim world, which results in them giving a bad image of Islam in the West & all over the world. Muslim majority societies in the East & the West are known for their lack of progressiveness, intolerance, chauvinism, amongst many other things. Everything Islam does not stand for.

I do think the West has acted irrationally against Muslims & Islam. But Muslims all over the world (bar some exceptions) have provided the perfect ammo for them to hold their bigoted/prejudiced beliefs.



P.S. Notice that I didn't say Islamic extremism (in my first post), but Muslim extremism. Extremism is not a part of Islam.


Thanks for making it "politically correct" , i feel better now.
 
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The whole point of the OP is that European bigots are against ALL Muslims. This discussion is not about Muslim extremism; these bigots are against kosher meat also.

People in the West are getting disillusioned with religion, as they see it as the root cause for the problems in the world today. It was Christianity in the Dark Ages, Islam today etc. They think all religions are man-made. The problem is not the religions but its adherents. I understand Muslim extremism is not the problem, but Muslim extremism in the West in the reason why non-Muslims have become disillusioned with Muslims. I would feel uncomfortable as a Muslim if a fellow Muslim dressed like this in the West (this is Australia by the way):

779px_niqab1.jpg


While I do not condone the bigotry & prejudice against Muslims in the West, I try to identify the root cause as to why they feel this way. I have never been discriminated in the US, even though I lived 10 years in that country. Instead of being divisive as a reaction to Western bigotry, we need to acclimatize ourselves in society, make our voices heard, be part of the solution than the problem.
 
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People in the West are getting disillusioned with religion, as they see it as the root cause for the problems in the world today. It was Christianity in the Dark Ages, Islam today etc. The problem is not the religions but its adherents. I understand Muslim extremism is not the problem, but Muslim extremism in the West in the reason why non-Muslims have become disillusioned with Muslims. I would feel uncomfortable as a Muslim if a fellow Muslim dressed like this in the West (this is Australia by the way):

779px_niqab1.jpg


While I do not condone the bigotry & prejudice against Muslims in the West, I try to identify the root cause as to why they feel this way. I have never been discriminated in the US, even though I lived 10 years in that country. Instead of being divisive as a reaction to Western bigotry, we need to acclimatize ourselves in society, make our voices heard, be part of the solution than the problem.


You are not uncomfortable with a women dressed like that you are paranoid because you absolutely have no clue about basic & fundamental rights of an individual. Prejudice against muslims is historical and is growing not because 1% of Muslim women in France like to wear Burqa , but because they are genuinely ill informed about Islam and do not want to recognize their rights.

When you say that Muslims are the root cause of the Islamophobia then i must say it defies common sense and logic. Its like saying that Racism against blacks is out there because they are black !
 
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