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Move comes shortly after shooting by Afghan army soldier leaves four French troops dead and another 16 wounded.

20 Jan 2012 12:17


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The shooting in Tagab comes as a new report shows growing animosity between NATO and Afghan forces

France is set to suspend its training programmes for Afghan troops after four of its soldiers were killed in eastern Afghanistan, according to both NATO and Afghan accounts, by an Afghan soldier.

Sixteen more members of the French armed forces were injured in Friday's shooting, in the Tagab district of Kapisa province, north of the capital Kabul, a security official told the AFP news agency on condition of anonymity.

The attack took place inside the base during a training session conducted by French forces.

French troops had surrounded their base in Kapisa and were not allowing any Afghan soldiers to approach, a security source told AFP.

The shooter has been arrested by NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), the source said.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, said it is "unacceptable" that Afghan troops fire at French soldiers.

With eight other French soldiers injured, including the commander at the time, who was seriously injured, the death toll from today's attack could continue to rise.

The incident comes amid a week of setbacks for NATO forces in the Central Asian nation.

There has been a number of incidents of Afghan soldiers turning their weapons on members of the 130,000-strong foreign force fighting an uprising by the Taliban.

Last month, two soldiers with the French Foreign Legion serving in Afghanistan were shot dead by a man wearing an Afghan army uniform during a mission in Kapisa, site of the main French base in Afghanistan.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for that attack.

Afghan soldiers 'gutless'

The latest deaths brought to 82 the number of French soldiers killed in Afghanistan since French forces deployed there at the end of 2001. Last year was been the deadliest so far, with 26 killed.

France has about 3,600 soldiers serving in the country, mainly in the provinces of Kabul and Kapisa.

President Sarkozy has dispatched Gerard Longuet, Defence Minister, and the hed of the French armed forces to Kabul, where they will conduct a thorough investigation into Friday's attack.

Al Jazeera's Jacky Rowland, speaking from Paris, said "depending on the outcome of their inquiry the president will decide" whether to pull out two years earlier than planned or resuming French operations.

Though NATO does not publicly release figures for coalition soldiers killed at the hands of the Afghan soldiers they train and fight alongside, a classified report - A Crisis of Trust and Cultural Incompatibility - obtained by the New York Times shows three dozen attacks against coalition forces by Afghan soldiers since 2007.

An Afghan army colonel, speaking to the US newspaper, described his own soldiers as thieves and drug addicts, but also called the Americans "rude, arrogant bullies who use foul language."

"US soldiers don’t listen, they are too arrogant," said one of the Afghan soldiers surveyed, in the report.

Another said: "They get upset due to their casualties, so they take it out on civilians during their searches."

An American soldier was quoted in the same report saying Afghan soldiers "are pretty much gutless in combat; we do most of the fighting".

Helicopter crash

The shooting of the French soldiers marked the culmination of a week of violence, including a helicopter crash in southern Afghanistan, killing six American soldiers, on Thursday.

In a brief statement, ISAF said early on Friday that there was no enemy activity in the area at the time of the crash on Thursday night.

The cause of the crash is still being investigated, NATO said.

Earlier on Thursday, seven civilians were killed outside a crowded gate at Kandahar Air Field, a base for US and NATO operations, after a suicide attacker set off a vehicle laden with explosives.

Eight people, including two civilians and two Afghan soldiers were wounded in the incident near the entrance of the Kandahar airport, a provincial spokesman, Zalmay Ayoubi, told local Afghan media.

The Taliban claimed responsibility, saying they were targeting a NATO convoy.

It was the second suicide bombing in as many days in southern Afghanistan, officials said. ISAF said no NATO troops were killed. It does not disclose information about injured troops.


France to suspend Afghan troop training - Central & South Asia - Al Jazeera English
 
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We will not tire , we will not falter and we will not fail - George W Bush
Shortly after 9/11 addressing the nation in cocaine fueled rage :rofl:

The Govt of the United States doesn't negotiate with terrorist - Official Policy

So what happened ? :azn:
 
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We will not tire , we will not falter and we will not fail - George W Bush
Shortly after 9/11 addressing the nation in cocaine fueled rage :rofl:

The Govt of the United States doesn't negotiate with terrorist - Official Policy

So what happened ? :azn:
Have they tired?, have they failed?
Sure they are leaving after 2 years and from your position it may seem that they have failed but the sad truth is that they have achieved most of their objectives and would have successfully completed completed their mission but for 'you know who'.
 
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Have they tired?, have they failed?
Sure they are leaving after 2 years and from your position it may seem that they have failed but the sad truth is that they have achieved most of their objectives and would have successfully completed completed their mission but for 'you know who'.

Yes they are tired , and they have failed ... Why else negotiate with the terrorist ? ... :azn:
Remind me which party negotiates ? What objectives have been achieved ? I am yet to hear about them ... And please dont bother to reply if you are one of those who thinks that they spend trillions just to kill OBL ...
 
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frenchys have always been a bit sissy

from the time they allowed nazi boots and armoured columns to storm into paris (french troops saluted the un-invited nazis) take down the french flag and replace it with nazi one

a sporadic attack on their troops and they take these measures? the italians basically pay the talebs not to attack their defensive positions


just goes to show that money and creme de la crop laundry list of equipment doesnt buy you manhood, balls and motivation to fight...


i'd love to tell these western countries to try SHARING a border with this god-forsaken neighbour country.....they send their troops thousands of km away from home and then cry when they come under attack -- whether its talebs or the ANA vigilante rogues.


seems that the talebs and taleb sympathizers have always managed to succeed in brainwashing ANA/police or infiltrating these elementary organizations


if the Americans --with their MUCH larger dedication of troops and equipment couldnt do much then what the heck difference would it make whether the frenchies opt IN or opt OUT

:laugh:
 
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I don't know if it were French troops but some ISAF forces use to paint Turkish flags on their vehicles and army uniforms not the get attacked. Turkish soldiers are the only ones who can go freely in Afgan masses without protection without bulletproof vests and guns pointing at people.
 
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I don't know if it were French troops but some ISAF forces use to paint Turkish flags on their vehicles and army uniforms not the get attacked. Turkish soldiers are the only ones who can go freely in Afgan masses without protection without bulletproof vests and guns pointing at people.

i heard this a few years ago as well

---------- Post added at 08:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 PM ----------

It is unfortunate but true. The legionnaires have lost their edge.

perhaps Sarko just sees that there is no military solution to the problem.....especially when you have "friendlys" who attack other friendlys
 
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We will not tire , we will not falter and we will not fail - George W Bush
Shortly after 9/11 addressing the nation in cocaine fueled rage :rofl:

The Govt of the United States doesn't negotiate with terrorist - Official Policy

So what happened ? :azn:

You don't make any sense.
 
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When did the legionnaire have an edge at all?

French are known for their lack of courage all throughout history. That is the fundamental reason behind "how make love not war"...

everyone has their role in the world.....


French are lousy drivers, they cant fight, they certainly dont know how to design cars......


but their food/drink is to die for :partay:
 
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why do France even need to fight this war or finance it , waste of time , HR, and money for France point.
 
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I don't know if it were French troops but some ISAF forces use to paint Turkish flags on their vehicles and army uniforms not the get attacked. Turkish soldiers are the only ones who can go freely in Afgan masses without protection without bulletproof vests and guns pointing at people.

my uncle told me this to... "serefsizler, namusumuza leke surup duruyorlar orosbu evlatlari" :lol:

i think it was a British unit that did it.
 
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French are lousy drivers,



France produces some of the best drivers in the world. Look up Formula 1.



they cant fight,



That's a ignorant and clueless statement that is blown out of proportion, just because the French government decided to surrendered in WWII does not mean they can not fight. I bet you did not know that many French volunteers continued to fight the Nazis long after the French surrender. Going as far a volunteering to fight in the Eastern Front--most Germans did everything in their power not to go to the Eastern Front.

And in fact the French put up fanatical resistance in such battles as Dien Bien Phu.





everyone has their role in the world.....




Yes they do some and roles are more degrading than others…





they certainly dont know how to design cars......



Wow…did I hear that right? Ever heard of the Bugatti? Top speed of 267 mph. It’s the worlds fastest car albeit it‘s owned by Volkswagen. I also can bet you have never heard of Renaults.

And we all forget how awesome Pakistani automobiles are…
 
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don't give them training look like they don't need it lolz RIP to guys now pull back remaining guys before some other crazy shot them
 
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