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Mystics, Modernists and Literalists

By Akbar Ahmed

In the intense discussion about Muslims today, non-Muslims often say to me: "You are a moderate, but are there others like you?"

Clearly, the use of the term moderate here is meant as a compliment. But the application of the term creates more problems than it solves. The term is heavy with value judgment, smacking of "good guy" versus "bad guy" categories. And it implies that while a minority of Muslims are moderate, the rest are not.

Having studied the practices of Muslims around the world today, I've come up with three broad categories: mystic, modernist and literalist. Of course, I must add the caveat that these are analytic models and aren't watertight.

Muslims in the mystic category reflect universal humanism, believing in "peace with all." The 13th-century Sufi poet Rumi exemplifies this category. In his verses, he glorifies worshipping the same God in the synagogue, the church and the mosque.

The second category is the modernist Muslim who believes in trying to balance tradition and modernity. The modernist is proud of Islam and yet able to live comfortably in, and contribute to, Western society.

Most Muslim leaders who led nationalist movements in the first half of the 20th century were modernists—from Sultan Mohammed V, the first king of independent Morocco, to M.A. Jinnah, who founded Pakistan in 1947. But as modernists failed over time, becoming increasingly incompetent and corrupt, the literalists stepped into the breach.

The literalists believe that Muslim behavior must approximate that of the Prophet in seventh-century Arabia. Their belief that Islam is under attack forces many of them to adopt a defensive posture. And while not all literalists advocate violence, many do. Movements like the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, and the Taliban belong to this category.

In the Muslim world the divisions between the three categories I have delineated are real. The outcome of their struggle will define Islam's fate.

The West can help by understanding Muslim society in a more nuanced and sophisticated way in order to interact with it wisely and for mutual benefit. The first step is to categorize Muslims accurately.

Mr. Ahmed, the former Pakistani ambassador to Britain, is the chair of Islamic studies at American University and author of "Journey into America: The Challenge of Islam" (Brookings, 2010).
 
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Having studied the practices of Muslims around the world today, I've come up with three broad categories: mystic, modernist and literalist. Of course

Readers will recall from our Jiahd and Itjihad thread the "Types of Relgiosity" post - where in Soroush highlights "Pragmatic, Gnostic and Experiential " - a useful framework
 
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Well, then you'll have to actually study what Islam requires of its followers since Sufism ain't it.

...and it certainly doesn't impose Wahabi Islam, Jihad is defensive term, not offensive.


Taliban, Al-Qaeda all bullshyt.


Also, no one is saying that Sufism is a type of Islam. Just a subset of it.....like any other religion and method of beliefs.
 
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...and it certainly doesn't impose Wahabi Islam, Jihad is defensive term, not offensive.


Taliban, Al-Qaeda all bullshyt.


Also, no one is saying that Sufism is a type of Islam. Just a subset of it.....like any other religion and method of beliefs.

I never said wahabiism is right...it's probably the worst corruption that has entered Islam.
 
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I never said wahabiism is right...it's probably the worst corruption that has entered Islam.

True that.

The problem is that the west knows the side of Islam which we label as Wahabi Islam......which isn't even there in reality.....talk about being generalized.
 
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I never said wahabiism is right...it's probably the worst corruption that has entered Islam.

Have you studied it before you reached this conclusion? I know I haven't, and I won't dare put personal prejudgment on a public forum.
 
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The very fact that the term Moderate Islam is being used to work as a counterbalance against the forces of tyranny carrying out their nefarious deeds in the name of Islam should be cause for worry for all right thinking Muslims. The use of this term pre-supposes the widespread prevalance of its anti-thesis i.e. extremeist Islam, and thereby paints the proponents from both sides of the divide with the same common brush- followers of Islam.

Think about it......
 
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I like sufisam and modern or moderate islam but big no to the third category..Literalist
 
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Mystic, Modernist and Literalists- I've met, befriended and worked with the first a little, the second mostly.

But the third category is all that one tends to hear about.
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I like Sufi songs...So in a way i like Sufism..which belongs to 1st or, 2nd ..which category..?Whatever it is ,,it is not the third one...
 
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Have you studied it before you reached this conclusion? I know I haven't, and I won't dare put personal prejudgment on a public forum.

Very well said, People who talk crap about Wahabisim doesn't know their @ss to their albow.... I have no sect, I' Just muslim. no wahabi no suni no shia nonothing just Muslim but having said that i have studied Almost all sect of Islam, Including old testiment and new "Bible" First of all read book of Imam abdul wahab and understand wahabism and then talk crap... It's like laskeray jhangvi is suni tehreek but does it fallow anything suni say...? What terrorist affiliated themself with any sect but we shouldnt judge the sect by terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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