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https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...-to-16728-million-in-2017/article23952857.ece

Foreign investments in Indian start-ups doubled to $16,728 million in 2017

Friendly policies, tax relief and innovative products attract investors
NEW DELHI, MAY 21

Innovative product solutions from start-ups, India as a venture skill hub and friendly policies have played a key role in increasing foreign investments in Indian start-ups.

Padmaja Ruparel, President, Indian Angel Network, said foreign venture capital (VC) and private equity (PE) funds are on the rise in India, especially from Japan, Europe and West Asia. This is on the back of start-up friendly policies and tax relief measures from the government and increasing quality of start-ups, she added.

According to data from Venture Intelligence, foreign PE and VC firms investing out of their global/Asia funds in Indian start-ups have increased 96 per cent to $16,728 million in 2017 compared to $8,497 million in 2016. Interestingly, the number of deals came down by 16 per cent from 175 in 2016 to 148 in 2017. In terms of foreign LP contribution, investment stood at $1889 million in 2017, down 16 per cent, compared to $2250 million in 2016. For the quarter ended March 2018, global VC and PE investments were led by North America, followed by Asia and Europe.

Ruparel explained that decrease in the number of deals but increase in ticket size per start-up indicates that investors are focusing more on quality of entrepreneurs and start-ups.

Sunil K Goyal, Founder & Chief Executive Officer, YourNest Venture Capital, said few years ago most of the start-ups ideas were either rehash of existing solution in the West or B2C focussing on convenience. But currently many IP-led start-ups in the B2B space that are looking to solve the needs of society using technology have increased.

“So there is a transition to creating innovative hardware and software products,” Goyal said and added that this has caught the interest of global VC and PE players. Additionally exits had always been an issue. With the recent Flipkart-Walmart deal, Goyal said it will instil confidence in future investors and encourage foreign investments, he added.

Attractive market

Alok Goyal of Stellaris Venture Partners, a Bengaluru-based VC firm, said another reason why India is of huge interest for foreign investors is the attractiveness of India itself is a market where you can test the innovations given its diverse geography and population. This is unlike emerging start-up hub like Israel that looks to the US for testing the solution’s scalability.

For instance, healthcare start-up Visit, which was recently funded by Twitter co-founder Biz Stone, uses Artificial Intelligence-powered chatbot to diagnose patients by asking relevant questions. After the success in India, the start-up is in talks to launch the solution in the US. Foreign investors find such companies attractive.

Christophe de Courson, Co-founder ahd CEO, Olymp Capital, who is looking for Indian partners for investing in blockchain and digital assets, agrees with the notion that India as a market is appealing. He explained that his firm is particularly interested in partnering with Indian firms for investing in blockchain and cryptocurrencies, which are gaining momentum.

@Ryuzaki @Gibbs @Dungeness @IndoCarib @itachii
 
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We should stop selling our startups to western firms and start creating indigenous alternatives to the western products just like how the chinese have a local alternative to every western app/product that ever exists. India is the biggest customer for whatsapp in the world - Imagine the scale India's "Hike messenger" would've grown if we switched from whatsapp. It would've been on par with "wechat"


How much FDI in Pakistan?
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https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/foreign-direct-investment
 
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We should stop selling our startups to western firms and start creating indigenous alternatives to the western products just like how the chinese have a local alternative to every western app/product that ever exists. India is the biggest customer for whatsapp in the world - Imagine the scale India's "Hike messenger" would've grown if we switched from whatsapp. It would've been on par with "wechat"



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https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/foreign-direct-investment

Most of the VCs in startups are always looking to sell their stakes at a higher valuation.

https://angel.co/

Visit this website to track startups from all over the world, and invest in few, if you want to. I'm looking to invest in AI and fintech based startups.
 
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Most of the VCs in startups are always looking to sell their stakes at a higher valuation.

https://angel.co/

Visit this website to track startups from all over the world, and invest in few, if you want to. I'm looking to invest in AI and fintech based startups.
But the minimum investment on angel.co is $50k. I guess we could purchase smaller stakes in other sites but are you planning to invest $50-100k?
 
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There are more start ups n 2018. Eventually they will catch the attention of foreign VCs. Then there s Walmart grabbing flipkart. 2018 may dwarf 2017.
 
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There are more start ups n 2018. Eventually they will catch the attention of foreign VCs. Then there s Walmart grabbing flipkart. 2018 may dwarf 2017.
Well most companies don't have their founders who own the controlling stake. For instance, Arthur Levinson (CEO of Calico) is the largest individual shareholder in Apple, with 1.13 million shares while Calico is owned by Alphabet (Google) which is a direct competitor of Apple in most sectors.

It doesn't matter who owns the company as long as they take it to the next level but we also gotta make sure we have local alternatives to every western product/app just like how the chinese have
 
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We should stop selling our startups to western firms and start creating indigenous alternatives to the western products just like how the chinese have a local alternative to every western app/product that ever exists. India is the biggest customer for whatsapp in the world - Imagine the scale India's "Hike messenger" would've grown if we switched from whatsapp. It would've been on par with "wechat"



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https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/foreign-direct-investment
I bet there have been multiple attempts of creating the local alternatives in India. The difficulty for them getting into significance was that they would be purchased or simply crushed by the international giants. In a absolutely free market, only the strongest can survive, young companies have little chance without some level of protection.

However if you are giving some level of protection to the local companies to allow them to grow, you will suddenly be given many nice new titles like exchange rate manipulator, non market economy, unfair trading practitioner etc. sounds familiar ah? :p:
 
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In a absolutely free market, only the strongest can survive, young companies have little chance without some level of protection
I know the Chinese govt encouraged the citizens to use local alternatives for every product/service/app that had a local offering which India doesn't as we have highly corrupt politicians but apart from that, what kind of protection was offered to Chinese companies by your govt which had direct competitors in the west?
 
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https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...-to-16728-million-in-2017/article23952857.ece

Foreign investments in Indian start-ups doubled to $16,728 million in 2017

Friendly policies, tax relief and innovative products attract investors
NEW DELHI, MAY 21

Innovative product solutions from start-ups, India as a venture skill hub and friendly policies have played a key role in increasing foreign investments in Indian start-ups.

Padmaja Ruparel, President, Indian Angel Network, said foreign venture capital (VC) and private equity (PE) funds are on the rise in India, especially from Japan, Europe and West Asia. This is on the back of start-up friendly policies and tax relief measures from the government and increasing quality of start-ups, she added.

According to data from Venture Intelligence, foreign PE and VC firms investing out of their global/Asia funds in Indian start-ups have increased 96 per cent to $16,728 million in 2017 compared to $8,497 million in 2016. Interestingly, the number of deals came down by 16 per cent from 175 in 2016 to 148 in 2017. In terms of foreign LP contribution, investment stood at $1889 million in 2017, down 16 per cent, compared to $2250 million in 2016. For the quarter ended March 2018, global VC and PE investments were led by North America, followed by Asia and Europe.

Ruparel explained that decrease in the number of deals but increase in ticket size per start-up indicates that investors are focusing more on quality of entrepreneurs and start-ups.

Sunil K Goyal, Founder & Chief Executive Officer, YourNest Venture Capital, said few years ago most of the start-ups ideas were either rehash of existing solution in the West or B2C focussing on convenience. But currently many IP-led start-ups in the B2B space that are looking to solve the needs of society using technology have increased.

“So there is a transition to creating innovative hardware and software products,” Goyal said and added that this has caught the interest of global VC and PE players. Additionally exits had always been an issue. With the recent Flipkart-Walmart deal, Goyal said it will instil confidence in future investors and encourage foreign investments, he added.

Attractive market

Alok Goyal of Stellaris Venture Partners, a Bengaluru-based VC firm, said another reason why India is of huge interest for foreign investors is the attractiveness of India itself is a market where you can test the innovations given its diverse geography and population. This is unlike emerging start-up hub like Israel that looks to the US for testing the solution’s scalability.

For instance, healthcare start-up Visit, which was recently funded by Twitter co-founder Biz Stone, uses Artificial Intelligence-powered chatbot to diagnose patients by asking relevant questions. After the success in India, the start-up is in talks to launch the solution in the US. Foreign investors find such companies attractive.

Christophe de Courson, Co-founder ahd CEO, Olymp Capital, who is looking for Indian partners for investing in blockchain and digital assets, agrees with the notion that India as a market is appealing. He explained that his firm is particularly interested in partnering with Indian firms for investing in blockchain and cryptocurrencies, which are gaining momentum.

@Ryuzaki @Gibbs @Dungeness @IndoCarib @itachii

It sounds like a good news for India, but the future of these star-ups may depend on the intentions of founders and/or investors. Are they building Indian unicorns to compete with MNC? Or they are simply raising cattle for a profit in the future, like the recent Walmart/Flipkart deal?

Hope some truly innovative Indian start-ups will eventually merge into world class players and still stand on their own.
 
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It sounds like a good news for India, but the future of these star-ups may depend on the intentions of founders and/or investors. Are they building Indian unicorns to compete with MNC? Or they are simply raising cattle for a profit in the future, like the recent Walmart/Flipkart deal?

Hope some truly innovative Indian start-ups will eventually merge into world class players and still stand on their own.

It all remains to be seen. Hopefully there is a good balance....there is success story in how Maruti-Suzuki (more manufacturing related) for example started very small and now its quite potent force...and exports in good way too.

As far as profits per se, I think it comes secondary to jobs....because anyway those profits (even if flight to some % back to source country ownership) will be re-invested to large degree by counter capital flows as the sector grows healthily. India has to be more focused on the low - mid chain effects on the ground for now...rich people (and the parallel in business ownership) is a welcome extra to have as much as can be done in free market + extra incentives within reason, but they are much more mobile with their location and funds anyway...if India stays attractive, it will benefit regardless...wherever the ownership is physically located for now.

Only when India gathers up way more capital than it has now...say becomes a 5 trillion USD economy in nominal terms...is there more feasible domestic gestation capability without too much govt over-protection (and all those problems that brings)....the multiplier of this w.r.t jobs is just the final 10% etc (it has more return market cap/invisible wise..but that is a somewhat slower velocity deployment )...so not really much priority for now.

Applies for both manufacturing and services....there used to be more contrast (favouring manufacturing w.r.t capital flows/job ratios) before say in the 90s...but now with permeation of newer technologies...both are pretty much the same capex/job return ratios overall (i.e they both got their spread of low, mid and high band stuff)

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But the minimum investment on angel.co is $50k. I guess we could purchase smaller stakes in other sites but are you planning to invest $50-100k?

I did made some money from cryptos, and this is an excellent way to diversify your portfolio. They are returning 40% return on average.
 
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I know the Chinese govt encouraged the citizens to use local alternatives for every product/service/app that had a local offering which India doesn't as we have highly corrupt politicians but apart from that, what kind of protection was offered to Chinese companies by your govt which had direct competitors in the west?
Well my friend I am not sure how you know the government encourages to use local alternative in China but I have not seen or heard such things there. You do find many street signs says something like “Keep the city tidy” or “China dream” etc but not “Let’s use Taobao over Amazon”.:-)

In the social space Google, Twitter, Facebook are not accessible in China. Naturally the local alternative have taken the advantage, to certain extent. The way an app like WeChat integrates many aspects of real/digital life is stunning, which is the capability that is still absent in the foreign competitors (probably not because they don’t know about it but because of absence of supporting infrastructure). In e-commerce space, my little experience is that local companies are simply superior in term of products range, pricing, logistics and everything and there is little reason to use foreign competitors. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Well my friend I am not sure how you know the government encourages to use local alternative in China but I have not seen or heard such things there. You do find many street signs says something like “Keep the city tidy” or “China dream” etc but not “Let’s use Taobao over Amazon”.:-)
I never meant your govt put up signs to use local alternatives but restricting access to foreign firms from entering China is enough to promote the growth of local firms and that is what I meant
 
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