Finance minister Hammad Azhar expects 4 percent sustainable gdp growth

[ziaulislam]

@TNT
Fact that even bengaldesh is ahead of us now when they were living in slums is funny to you??

 

[TNT]

@TNT
Fact that even bengaldesh is ahead of us now when they were living in slums is funny to you??

So u just visiting on a trip have more idea about the ground situation than us living here ? The point is now its not feasible to blame old crooks, PTI should have done much more. Tell me which big corrupt has bene caught and persecuted properly?? Have the govt spending reduced? Have the luxury of ministers reduced?? Have luxury of bureaucrats reduced?? The only screw tightened is not middle class and salaried ppl. If u ppl think it's such a good govt rhen come back with ur stashed wealth n live here. A few of tried and were then crying n ran away lolz. Its easier to talk from abroad.

 

[ziaulislam]

So u just visiting on a trip have more idea about the ground situation than us living here ? The point is now its not feasible to blame old crooks, PTI should have done much more. Tell me which big corrupt has bene caught and persecuted properly?? Have the govt spending reduced? Have the luxury of ministers reduced?? Have luxury of bureaucrats reduced?? The only screw tightened is not middle class and salaried ppl. If u ppl think it's such a good govt rhen come back with ur stashed wealth n live here. A few of tried and were then crying n ran away lolz. Its easier to talk from abroad.

Ofcourse i do
Since my family doesnt has gas, electricity forget about internet..

None of my near or distant memebers are on intenet

Anyone on interent is usually the educated class now worried about their imported cheese
Yes imran khan is culprit beyind luxury spending

The culprit is the middle class still resisiting any form of accountibility against anyone

70% of votes(PMLN PPPP) think NAB going for polticans and beuacrats who have unaccounted earning as "injustice'

So unless atleast 80% people support actiond against unaccounted wealth(even if they want to vote for another party) then they deserve what they get

You said your self people would rather vote back for corrupt money launderers..so why cry now? This is something i never get from crying salary and middle class..

People related to agriculture and privately swlf employed people POOR UNEDUCATED people are reason country is surviving as they have some sense of whats going on?

By the way people were much happy with wheat hitting 1800 expect a bumper crop ..PMLN did **** people with prices doubling where as wheat staying at same price for 5 yrs

But ofcourse thr middle class salaried people will cry as they wont be able to get imported cheese or their other imports spending..which sure will draw some uneven consumption based growth

 

[ziaulislam]

80% people without gas are subsidizing 20% gas users
30% without power are subsidizing 70% powee users

Go to rural KPK interior sindh or south punjab you will see what i mean

 

[Mrc]

NS and ppp are double shah's....

And pakis love to b looted by a double shah again and again...

U can make a high gdp on imports but cannot sustain it...

U need to improve productivity and exports.....it takes time but that's the right way...

Economy will manage near 4 percent this year with negligible CAD and rising export... While its less than 5.8 managed by pmln but its real growth not imports....try to get this through the skull

 

[Norwegian]

80% people without gas are subsidizing 20% gas users
30% without power are subsidizing 70% powee users

Go to rural KPK interior sindh or south punjab you will see what i mean

PM Imran Khan mentioned this specifically in his Question Answer session with the public

 

[Patriot forever]

So u just visiting on a trip have more idea about the ground situation than us living here ? The point is now its not feasible to blame old crooks, PTI should have done much more. Tell me which big corrupt has bene caught and persecuted properly?? Have the govt spending reduced? Have the luxury of ministers reduced?? Have luxury of bureaucrats reduced?? The only screw tightened is not middle class and salaried ppl.

On what merits have you reached the conclusion that after 2 1/2 economic woes can not be blamed on past government?
Our country is still suffering from a lot of decisions of late bhutto.

It is natural to direct your anger at the person one dislikes or who is standing right in front of them irrespective of facts.

Do you know what actually happened, past government was a molester, they did everything by offering you a candy, you were happy they were happy, when the candy finished you realized what happened by that time the molester ran away and there was someone else standing beside you. You hold the person right now standing next to you responsible.
Ignorance of the people is responsible for their state of misery. My point is economy is not a few years gamble. The bets you make has consequences for a long time.
In short this government was staring at 25-30% overall compound inflation the moment they set foot in office over the years. ( Rupee depreciation, electricity deals resulting in tariff rationalization, gas sector deficit due to its tariff not been received for the past 5 years ).



Yes the government expenses has reduced, they released the report of comparison of total expenditure. Bureaucracy I have no stats.

If the judiciary does not want to punish the culprits, there is little NAB or government can do. If you want to judge by yourself, Shahbaz Sharif case is well investigated and prosecution is doing a decent job as well. Let's see what the outcome is. Let's see who is protecting him.

 

[Patriot forever]

@TNT
Fact that even bengaldesh is ahead of us now when they were living in slums is funny to you??

He makes these decisions like the majority of people of people in this country when they go to the local shop. People generally have no concept of exports imports industries cad gdp etc.
They just jump on seeing fancy power projects advertisements which they can not afford. Thinking country is progressing.
Their ignorance is the main reason why Bangladesh and India are ahead of us.

 

[ziaulislam]

He makes these decisions like the majority of people of people in this country when they go to the local shop. People generally have no concept of exports imports industries cad gdp etc.
They just jump on seeing fancy power projects advertisements which they can not afford. Thinking country is progressing.
Their ignorance is the main reason why Bangladesh and India are ahead of us.

Wrong..
They know it but they like it this way
Its khata hey tu lagata hey concept

Central punjab is rolling in money while south is crushed..

Middle class and specially salaried class, politicans, businessmen and beaucrats are rolling in money while poor farmer class/laborers are being crashed..

Today food, oil and gas is much cheaper in pakistan then india (at expensive of farmer class)


Electricity is on par as compared to india(but exepensive for industries & commerace)

He makes these decisions like the majority of people of people in this country when they go to the local shop. People generally have no concept of exports imports industries cad gdp etc.
They just jump on seeing fancy power projects advertisements which they can not afford. Thinking country is progressing.
Their ignorance is the main reason why Bangladesh and India are ahead of us.

In 10 yrs even afghanistan will be ahead

In 1980s korea was poorer then us, 1990s vietnam was poorer and 2000s even bengladesh was poorer

They went for job creation and productivity..we went for note printing and generalized subsidies
Imagine if 6 trillion rupees subsidies in last 5years spent on development and investment where would we been at

 

[colonel rajesh]

Finance minister Hammad Azhar expects 4 percent sustainable gdp growth

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not bad to begin with in this pandemic time .

 

[Patriot forever]

Wrong..
They know it but they like it this way
Its khata hey tu lagata hey concept

Central punjab is rolling in money while south is crushed..

Middle class and specially salaried class, politicans, businessmen and beaucrats are rolling in money while poor farmer class/laborers are being crashed..

Today food, oil and gas is much cheaper in pakistan then india (at expensive of farmer class)


Electricity is on par as compared to india(but exepensive for industries & commerace)

In 10 yrs even afghanistan will be ahead

In 1980s korea was poorer then us, 1990s vietnam was poorer and 2000s even bengladesh was poorer

They went for job creation and productivity..we went for note printing and generalized subsidies
Imagine if 6 trillion rupees subsidies in last 5years spent on development and investment where would we been at

Exactly bro you hit the nail in the head.

Artificial means of inflating gdp by increasing consumption (subsidized dollar and fiscal injection) does not increase wealth creation. People in India can afford these commodities at those rates because of stable sustainable and organic growth over a decade. When was the last time India went to IMF due to BOP crisis, when was the last time India artificially manipulated their currency, when was the last time India spent so much on just subsidies, when was the last time Indian central bank was printing to finance political government spending (except in corona crisis)?

Some people still argue that there are no long term consequences of economic mismanagement.

 

[ziaulislam]

Exactly bro you hit the nail in the head.

Artificial means of inflating gdp by increasing consumption (subsidized dollar and fiscal injection) does not increase wealth creation. People in India can afford these commodities at those rates because of stable sustainable and organic growth over a decade. When was the last time India went to IMF due to BOP crisis, when was the last time India artificially manipulated their currency, when was the last time India spent so much on just subsidies, when was the last time Indian central bank was printing to finance political government spending (except in corona crisis)?

Some people still argue that there are no long term consequences of economic mismanagement.

1991 at that time our per capita exports were three times that of india.

But then new generation of lazy middle class led by nawaz sharif was borne and we went every 3 years a total of 9 times to IMF.
Currwnt govt has still lot of work to do in revenue collection(automation) and basic necesities provisoon(education/health) but atleast its on its agenda rather then shoving it under the carpet like previous govt did and instead screwing the poor with sales tax increase. This is the first govt who hasnt increased sales tax
Currwnt govt has still lot of work to do in revenue collection(automation) and basic necesities provisoon(education/health) but atleast its on its agenda rather then shoving it under the carpet like previous govt did and instead screwing the poor with sales tax increase. This is the first govt who hasnt increased sales tax

 

[TNT]

Ofcourse i do
Since my family doesnt has gas, electricity forget about internet..

None of my near or distant memebers are on intenet

Anyone on interent is usually the educated class now worried about their imported cheese
Yes imran khan is culprit beyind luxury spending

The culprit is the middle class still resisiting any form of accountibility against anyone

70% of votes(PMLN PPPP) think NAB going for polticans and beuacrats who have unaccounted earning as "injustice'

So unless atleast 80% people support actiond against unaccounted wealth(even if they want to vote for another party) then they deserve what they get

You said your self people would rather vote back for corrupt money launderers..so why cry now? This is something i never get from crying salary and middle class..

People related to agriculture and privately swlf employed people POOR UNEDUCATED people are reason country is surviving as they have some sense of whats going on?

By the way people were much happy with wheat hitting 1800 expect a bumper crop ..PMLN did **** people with prices doubling where as wheat staying at same price for 5 yrs

But ofcourse thr middle class salaried people will cry as they wont be able to get imported cheese or their other imports spending..which sure will draw some uneven consumption based growth

What r u talking about?? Are retarded or what? Middle class salaried ppl cant even think of eating imported cheese or other imported stuff. See thats the problem u sitting outside n knowing nothing. The most noise is made by poor people because wheat is expensive, how will they buy? Petrol os expensive and that leads to everything becoming expensive because "kiraya barh gaya gari ka". The middle class cant even properly educate their kids or afford good schools. Health care is so expensive, medicine price tripled and quadrupled. The utter crap ur saying ahows u have zero idea about ground realities.
Wjat u mean 80℅ support? Why the F did ppl vote PTI in ppwer if they need more support to finish corruption??? Thays the most stupid thing ive heard, all agencies under govt n they cant stop corruption coz ppl support? Wow lolz
Reality is this PTI govt dont even have writ, they couldnt control petrol magia, or sugar mafia. They let nawaz escape while shouting NRO nahi doonga. Where are tje libraries and universities in governor house n pm house? U maybe fooled but ppl of Pakistan have realized. 90℅ of PTI is filled with old corrupt crap. Jobs are openly sold and corruption is thriving.

 

[Norwegian]

1991 at that time our per capita exports were three times that of india.

But then new generation of lazy middle class led by nawaz sharif was borne and we went every 3 years a total of 9 times to IMF.

When was the last time India went to IMF due to BOP crisis

Last time India went to IMF was 1990. Pakistan kept going to IMF ever since we got Mian Saanp and his money printing / artifical dollar valuation

 

[TNT]

On what merits have you reached the conclusion that after 2 1/2 economic woes can not be blamed on past government?
Our country is still suffering from a lot of decisions of late bhutto.

It is natural to direct your anger at the person one dislikes or who is standing right in front of them irrespective of facts.

Do you know what actually happened, past government was a molester, they did everything by offering you a candy, you were happy they were happy, when the candy finished you realized what happened by that time the molester ran away and there was someone else standing beside you. You hold the person right now standing next to you responsible.
Ignorance of the people is responsible for their state of misery. My point is economy is not a few years gamble. The bets you make has consequences for a long time.
In short this government was staring at 25-30% overall compound inflation the moment they set foot in office over the years. ( Rupee depreciation, electricity deals resulting in tariff rationalization, gas sector deficit due to its tariff not been received for the past 5 years ).



Yes the government expenses has reduced, they released the report of comparison of total expenditure. Bureaucracy I have no stats.

If the judiciary does not want to punish the culprits, there is little NAB or government can do. If you want to judge by yourself, Shahbaz Sharif case is well investigated and prosecution is doing a decent job as well. Let's see what the outcome is. Let's see who is protecting him.

You just cannot keep blaming old govt for ever. People rejected those old crooks and voted PTI but PTI is doing exactly the same. The same old corrupt MPA and MNAs, the same old elite ruling class, same bureaucracy. Same tactics of squeezing the poor and middle class instead of taxing the rich. Its same policies as pmln and ppp.
We would even be happy if he atleast caught the old corrupts. Why not a single old corrupt minister is caught n made an example?? Where r the 300 billion dollars stashed outside???
You see an inefficient person would always make excuses and never accept fault. Now PTI is making excuse of courts setting them free, when court gave cabinet the right to decide fate of nawaz, then why this moron let him go??? Was he scared?
Courts cannot set anyone free without reason, its ur NAB that makes a weak case and later cannot prove it in court. The prosecution is weak n weak cases are made, is this fault of court? Also NAB is busy giving plea bargains, letting ppl whiten their black money. Jobs are sold, transfers done on money. I will buy a job for anyone who thinks jons are not sold, come with cash n i gurantee u a job in this PTI govt. Even NTS exams are out n sold for 5 laakh.
You guys are living in lala land and completely devoid of ground realities.