Female Suicide bomber in Turbat, Balochistan

[ziaulislam]

Untill the consitution is followed and due process is done ordinary soldiers and pakistani will face the heat and elite will keep the control using this as an excuse

 

[TheSolution]

So, you are basically saying that you don't care at all about the constitution, the law, due process, or our international obligations. With that kind of approach, there's no room for debate.

But assuming that you are a Muslim, what are your views on Quran and Hadith?. In Islam, crime is primarily an individual responsibility, and all accused have a right to fair trial. The Holy Quran instructs Muslims to judge fairly among people and avoid letting personal biases lead to unjust judgments (5:8). Would you say that you don't care about that too?

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

International obligations just makes me laugh, we owe nothing to anyone, those are tools used for political control. No one follows that shit.

Also they don't go around killing and disappearing random people, they use an informant network.

If you want to bring Islam into judgement of one's crime, why bring in the international obligations made by kaffirs, or a constitution that doesn't rule by Shariah?

 

[TheSolution]

The way people talk about development and HDI in Pakistan and about "oppressed minorities" (they don't actually exist) is just funny.

You make it sound like the whole of Pakistan is Europe meanwhile Balochistan alone is kept like an Africa. HDI and development disparities across provinces existed before independence. The culture of Balochistan is not even ripe for development, they murder innocent teachers and labourers, and destroy infrastructure, have tribal feuds.

They literally live in the 1600s. On top of that a poor state simply can't develop a secluded area alone to extreme levels to satisfy the greed of a few.

 

[Sayfullah]

Pakistan isn't supporting any anti Iran group

It is Iran that is working with blf/bla to destabilize Pakistan

Even bla (Azad) that is against both Pakistan and Iran have accused blf to be Iranian agents

Iran being snake is one major reason for instability in Pakistani Balochistan

Even Jaish ul Adl called bla and blf IRGC agents. Their used by IRGC against Iranian Baloch groups who actually fight oppression.

 

[Meengla]

Why do you hate Khan so much? Since our country gained independence, who do you think has been running the show, was it Khan? If not, why has our country always been a shithole (before Khan arrived), and still is? Who is actually responsible? Please summarise your answer, I don't need a long essay.

Short answer: Pakistan has been a 'security state' and that has unfortunately given the Establishment too much power. And of course Imran Khan is not responsible for the mess. My views about him are there in many recent posts by me. Basically I think he is temperamentally incapable to be in the topmost office of Pakistan especially if you take a look at his blunders starting March 2022, culminating in the May 9 final blunder.
Anyway, this thread is about the female suicide bomber and it makes me sad that, in their hatred for the Establishment, Imran's fanbois are tacitly supporting such terrorism. Barely a year ago they would have reacted differently to terrorism--and they did if you go back to those days in PDF.
I am with @Bleek for the solution: Crush them like those in the tribal areas were crushed and those in Karachi were crushed. And add TLP and Lal Masjid to the list.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Pakistan isn't supporting any anti Iran group

It is Iran that is working with blf/bla to destabilize Pakistan

Even bla (Azad) that is against both Pakistan and Iran have accused blf to be Iranian agents

Iran being snake is one major reason for instability in Pakistani Balochistan

Iran, India and others are only exploiting our existing fault lines in Balochistan for their own benefit. It is primarily our responsibility to address these issues. This thread is a clear example of what's wrong with us. People are not even willing to recognize the legitimate grievances in the region. We need to address these grievances before we can fully confront terrorists and their local and foreign handlers.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Also they don't go around killing and disappearing random people,

Recent events surrounding PTI suggest otherwise.

 

[M. Sarmad]

If you want to bring Islam into judgement of one's crime, why bring in the international obligations made by kaffirs, or a constitution that doesn't rule by Shariah?

The Treaty of Hudaybiyyah should serves as a prime example of how Muslims are expected to uphold their obligations in a treaty agreement with non-Muslims.

And agreed, we are neither Islamic nor a Republic. But that's a different debate

 

[Mirzali Khan]

People are not even willing to recognize the legitimate grievances in the region. We need to address these grievances before we can fully confront terrorists and their local and foreign handlers.

It’s only a select few that are denying the oppression Baloch face.

Maulana Hidayat-ur-Rahman is one of my favorite Baloch politicians at the moment. He speaks his thoughts clearly and doesn’t advocate for dumb terrorism or killing of random teachers. Unfortunately the state keeps putting him in jail and slapping fake charges on him just like they are doing with Imran Khan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1633824262174937091

 

[TheSolution]

Recent events surrounding PTI suggest otherwise.

Politicians and an average civillian are two different things.

The former serves a purpose (to tackle a political party, the only purpose the second serves is to disrupt a terror network, which you cannot target  random people for that to work.

The Treaty of Hudaybiyyah should serves as a prime example of how Muslims are expected to uphold their obligations in a treaty agreement with non-Muslims.

And agreed, we are neither Islamic nor a Republic. But that's a different debate

Did the non-muslim signatories of that treaty also spend time funding coups and consistently bombing Muslim lands for decades? Were those treaties signed on equal grounds rather than a degree of coercion due to a power imbalance?

 

[ziaulislam]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

International obligations just makes me laugh, we owe nothing to anyone, those are tools used for political control. No one follows that shit.

Also they don't go around killing and disappearing random people, they use an informant network.

If you want to bring Islam into judgement of one's crime, why bring in the international obligations made by kaffirs, or a constitution that doesn't rule by Shariah?

How do you know that? Have you been in ISI ? Well unless you have been ISI chief you don't know

 

[hussain0216]

The way people talk about development and HDI in Pakistan and about "oppressed minorities" (they don't actually exist) is just funny.

You make it sound like the whole of Pakistan is Europe meanwhile Balochistan alone is kept like an Africa. HDI and development disparities across provinces existed before independence. The culture of Balochistan is not even ripe for development, they murder innocent teachers and labourers, and destroy infrastructure, have tribal feuds.

They literally live in the 1600s. On top of that a poor state simply can't develop a secluded area alone to extreme levels to satisfy the greed of a few.

The problem is these idiots think it's a one way process of the state just dumping money onto Balochistan and then everything will fix itself

The people have to be open for investment, they have to be open to education, change, development etc they have to shun violence and jahilat and be fundamentally decent forward thinking people


Now is that the case? The answer is of course not
they are bat shit stupid, backwards, jahils
Pakistan is not a rich nation, but multiple projects have been undertaken, that have come under attack
outsiders coming for tourism, or work, or investment have been attacked



basically these people are idiot's similar to the afghanis and unless they change, Balochistan won't change


there are piss poor people all across the world,, few people resort to suicide bombings and terrorism and road side bombs

at some point you have to accept unless these people change we only have the option hunting down the terrorists

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Stupid bitch killed herself. Now she will have to answer to Allah for suicide.

Stupid bitch.

 

[Areesh]

Answer is desperation

People even in Kashmir and Palestine aren't this desperate

Bullshit

People in gaza are not desperate??? What nonsense you keep on posting on this website

Suicide attacks happen not because of desperation but because of this:

1. Ideology
2. Funds
3. Organization

You minus anyone of these three and there won't be a suicide attack

You don't see suicide attacks in IoK or Palestine because both India and Israel have successfully eliminated at least one of the above three factors

 

[TheSolution]

The problem is these idiots think it's a one way process of the state just dumping money onto Balochistan and then everything will fix itself

The people have to be open for investment, they have to be open to education, change, development etc they have to shun violence and jahilat and be fundamentally decent forward thinking people


Now is that the case? The answer is of course not
they are bat shit stupid, backwards, jahils
Pakistan is not a rich nation, but multiple projects have been undertaken, that have come under attack
outsiders coming for tourism, or work, or investment have been attacked



basically these people are idiot's similar to the afghanis and unless they change, Balochistan won't change


there are piss poor people all across the world,, few people resort to suicide bombings and terrorism and road side bombs

at some point you have to accept unless these people change we only have the option hunting down the terrorists

When schools were being opened in Waziristan and they said girls would be allowed in, I remember seeing so many men from that area mad as ****, literally saying that their women will be turned into prostitutes from being educated.

Baloch rebels blow up infrastructure, assassinate innocent teachers, local labourers.

People as regressive as this don't get to complain about a lack of development. It's easy to blame everyone else for your problems but not look at your own ikhlaaq.

How do you know that? Have you been in ISI ? Well unless you have been ISI chief you don't know

Because it's a universal way any military intelligence institution functions, also TTP and other Baloch rebel groups release statements about their supposed identification of state informants.

It's also not a coincidence that the same people who cry about enforced disappearances celebrate terrorist attacks. Those same accounts were running hashtags of how these women are legends, meanwhile photos were going around of her legs in one place and her head in another lmao