Facts or Myth-- You Decide

[DeathGod]

Just a small teaser...

YouTube - ‪Ancient India was more Technologically advanced than the West‬‏

 

[angeldemon_007]

Whole video...

 

[Rafi]

Pakistan with it's center's of learning in Taxila and the IVC had some of the most technologically advanced and organized civilization of it's day on par with Ancient Greece, Egypt, Persia etc.

Taxila, Punjab Pakistan - here great thinkers exchange idea's on various subjects.

Mohenjadaro, Sindh Pakistan this is one of the best examples of Ancient well planned and designed City.

Mehrgarh, one of the most important Neolithic (7000 BCE to c. 2500 BCE) sites in archaeology, lies on what is now the "Kachi plain" of today's Balochistan, Pakistan. It is one of the earliest sites with evidence of farming (wheat and barley) and herding (cattle, sheep and goats).

Harrapa Punjab Pakistan
A well planned Ancient City thousands of years before it's like would flourish in Europe.

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

There is no Future of this Thread.

sh!t storm forecast

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

"Do you not see that We destroyed the ancients for their transgression and they were much more powerful than you."
... any mutilation of meaning unintended

 

[T90TankGuy]

for god sake !!!! yeah we were great then but are not now . grow up ...

dont live in past glories those belong to the past . see what we can do for the future.

 

[koushik]

Then one should remember about the Nalanda University in Jharkhand which was constructed by king Harshavardhana was one of the most learning centres of ancient India.

 

[madooxno9]

lol...i always wonder how ... Pakistan claims those ancient sites as their .... it's not even related to them...or their ancestors ....

I always wonder how one can claim something which was created by someone.... who is not their ancestors anyhow....

they can claim things which WERE built after Islamization and the Arab Conquest of Sindh

 

[Rafi]

lol...i always wonder how ... Pakistan claims those ancient sites as their .... it's not even related to them...or their ancestors ....

I always wonder how one can claim something which was created by someone.... who is not their ancestors anyhow....

they can claim things which are built after Islamization and the Arab Conquest of Sindh

Then wonder no longer, Pashtuns, Punjabi's, Sindhi's, Balochi's, Kashmiri, have lived on this land for thousands of years, our ancestors build these monuments and we are the people who inherited them. We became Muslim after the Sufi converted the people of our land.

With devotional songs of love for the Almighty.

Therefore all the history on our land is of our people and of our people - we claim it all, the Islamic and Pre-Islamic parts.

 

[madooxno9]

^^ OUT OF 170 MILLION people of Pakistan .... u mean to say most of them ...lets say 150 million are related to hindusim....which were converted by invasion of BIN quasim ....

i though as pakistani people claim that they are superior race ... as they are pure ....would not have any connection to ... ancient HINDU people or any ancient people or race....???

 

[Rafi]

^^ OUT OF 170 MILLION people of Pakistan .... u mean to say most of them ...lets say 150 million are related to hindusim....which were converted by invasion of BIN quasim ....

i though as pakistani people claim that they are superior race ... as they are pure ....would not have any connection to ... ancient HINDU people or any ancient people or race....???

Pakistan was largely Buddhist when MBQ came to Sindh, that is why idols to this day are called Budd in the local languages, and we do not know the religion of the Ancients, their language has not been decipher-ed.

 

[Rafi]

Pakistan was largely Buddhist when MBQ came to Sindh, that is why idols to this day are called Budd in the local languages, and we do not know the religion of the Ancients, their language has not been decipher-ed.

And the vast majority including my Jaat people were converted by the Sufi Saints - the tradition in our clan is that when the Muslim warrior's came we resisted fiercely - and then the Sufi (who converted us) came and our Swords and Bows and Spears were useless - we had no weapon's that can resist the truth, the Sufi's shrine still exists - and there are many uniformed soldiers of our clan - who visit the Urs every year.

And from that day forward our Swords were for the Islamic cause.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Pakistan was largely Buddhist when MBQ came to Sindh, that is why idols to this day are called Budd in the local languages, and we do not know the religion of the Ancients, their language has not been decipher-ed.

Not at all, matter a fact Buddhism was pretty much in a complete decline all over the subcontinent after the Guptas and Palas who patronized the religion. In 700 AD Sindh was under the Brahmin dynasty.


Also here are a direct quote from the arabs about Sindh.

This was first confrontation between Rashidun Caliphate and Hindu kingdom in Baluchistan. In response of Caliph Umar’s question about the Makran region, the Messenger from Makran who bring the news of the victory told him:
“ 'O Commander of the faithful!
It's a land where the plains are stony; Where water is scanty; Where the fruits are unsavory Where men are known for treachery; Where plenty is unknown; Where virtue is held of little account; And where evil is dominant; A large army is less for there; And a less army is use less there; The land beyond it, is even worst (referring to Sind).
”
Umar looked at the messenger and said: "Are you a messenger or a poet? He replied “Messenger”. Thereupon Caliph Umar, after listening that Sindh was a barren and poor land and the unfavorable situations for sending an army, instructed Hakim bin Amr al Taghlabi that for the time being Makran should be the easternmost frontier of the Rashidun Caliphate, and that no further attempt should be made to extend the conquests. This was mainly because of Umar's policy of consolidating the rule before conquering more land. The same year in 644 Umar had already rejected the proposal by Ahnaf ibn Qais, conqueror of Khurasan, of crossing Oxus river in north to invade central Asia and in west similarly he had called back Amr ibn al-Aas who marched to north Africa and had captured Tripoli. Thereupon on of the commander of Islamic army in Makran is reported to have said the following verses:
“ If the Commander of faithful wouldn’t have stopped us from going beyond, so we would have bought our forces to the temple of prostitutes ”
Referring to the Hindu Temple in interior Sind where prostitutes use to give a part of their earning as charity.

We became Muslim after the Sufi converted the people of our land.

Its so funny how those central asian and middle eastern conquerors brain washed you.

 

[Rafi]

Not at all, matter a fact Buddhism was pretty much in a complete decline all over the subcontinent after the Guptas and Palas who patronized the religion. In 700 AD Sindh was under a the Brahmin dynasty.

The people were largely Buddhist - that is why the word for idol is still "Budd" - that is immaterial anyway

Reasons for success
Muhammad bin Qasim's success has been partly ascribed to Dahir being an unpopular Hindu king ruling over a Buddhist majority who saw Chach of Alor and his kin as usurpers of the Rai Dynasty.[4] This is attributed to having resulted in support being provided by Buddhists and inclusion of rebel soldiers serving as valuable infantry in his cavalry-heavy force from the Jat and Meds.[11] Brahman, Buddhist, Greek, and Arab testimony however can be found that attests towards amicable relations between the adherents of the two religions up to the 7th century.[12]

 

[Water Car Engineer]

The people were largely Buddhist - that is why the word for idol is still "Budd" - that is immaterial anyway

Reasons for success
Muhammad bin Qasim's success has been partly ascribed to Dahir being an unpopular Hindu king ruling over a Buddhist majority who saw Chach of Alor and his kin as usurpers of the Rai Dynasty.[4] This is attributed to having resulted in support being provided by Buddhists and inclusion of rebel soldiers serving as valuable infantry in his cavalry-heavy force from the Jat and Meds.[11] Brahman, Buddhist, Greek, and Arab testimony however can be found that attests towards amicable relations between the adherents of the two religions up to the 7th century.[12]

Gandhara remained a largely Buddhist land until around 800 AD, when the Pashtun people invaded the region from Southern Afghanistan and introduced the Islamic religion.
Most Buddhists in Punjab reverted to Hinduism from 600 AD onwards. Buddhism was the faith practiced by the majority of the population of Sindh up to the Arab conquest by the Umayad Caliphate in 710 AD

In Sindh you are right, it seem the Arab invasion has convert many people in Sindh.

Buddhism in Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia