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Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT)’s F-35 jet developed cracks in testing of the fighter’s durability and wasn’t sufficiently reliable in training flights last year, the Pentagon’s chief tester found.

On-ground testing of the Air Force and Marine Corps versions of the fighter revealed “significant findings” of cracks on five occasions in fuselage bulkheads, flanges, stiffeners and engine mounts “that will require mitigation plans and may include redesigning parts and additional weight,” according to an annual report on major weapons by Michael Gilmore, director of operational testing.

Gilmore has repeatedly raised questions about progress of the $391.2 billion F-35 program, the most expensive U.S. weapons system. This year’s report, released today, may draw particular scrutiny because the Pentagon will propose increasing purchases to 42 planes in fiscal 2015 from the 29 Congress authorized this year.

Lockheed, the top U.S. contractor, drew 16 percent of sales from the F-35 last year. “That number will grow in 2014,” Bruce Tanner, chief financial officer for the Bethesda, Maryland-based company told reporters last week. In a full-page discussion of durability testing and cracking, Gilmore disclosed an incident in late September when a bulkhead “severed.” He said “analysis and corrective actions” were continuing.

Aircraft based in Florida, Arizona, California and Nevada for pilot training missions continue “to be immature” and rely “heavily on contractor support and workarounds unacceptable in combat operations,” Gilmore wrote. Reliability measures “are all below” target goals for the current stage of development, he said.

Plane’s Weight

The aircraft’s weight stabilized last year, with little margin for growth without exceeding contractually binding limits that would jeopardize meeting combat requirements, Gilmore said.

The Air Force model, which will be the most numerous of the 2,443 F-35s planned, was within 341 pounds (155 kilograms) of its 29,030-pound airframe weight requirement as of October. The Marine Corps version was within 202 pounds of its 32,577-pound goal with several years of development left.

“Managing weight growth with such small margins will continue to be a significant program challenge,” Gilmore said. The test report also outlined achievements, finding that flight tests performed by 18 jets to evaluate the aircraft’s flying prowess and handling qualities “made the planned progress” and “nearly matched or exceeded” sortie goals through October.

Lockheed’s Comment

Flights designed to evaluate the aircraft’s combat systems and integration of weapons “made little progress and continued to fall behind” its goals, however, Gilmore said. He also warned of delays in testing and fielding software that the Marine version will use.

Michael Rein, a Lockheed spokesman, said in an e-mailed statement that Gilmore’s report outlined “a tremendous amount of positive information.” “The F-35 aircraft has flown to every corner of the envelope and is meeting or exceeding expectations in flight performance,” Rein said. “The challenges identified are known items and the normal discoveries found in a test program of this size and complexity.”

Joe DellaVedova, spokesman for the Pentagon’s F-35 program, said in an e-mail that “there were no surprises in the report. All of the issues mentioned are well-known to us, the F-35 international partners and our industry team.” - “Although the report is factually accurate, it does not fully highlight the F-35 enterprise’s efforts to address and resolve the known technical and program-related challenges,” he said.



Bloomberg | Lockheed F-35 Develops Cracks, Pentagon’s Tester Finds - Bloomberg
 
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IMO the order of IOC for DSI planes could be as follows: JF-17 in 2010, J-10B in 2014, J-20 in 2017, J-31 in 2019, F-35 in 2020. :bounce:
 
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for some reason aeronaut does not quote the full Article :)

Let me do it for him

Marine Commandant

Flights designed to evaluate the aircraft’s combat systems and integration of weapons “made little progress and continued to fall behind” its goals, Gilmore said.

He also warned of delays in testing and fielding software for the Marine Corps version, the F-35B, which the service has said it hopes to declare operational by December 2015.

General James Amos, the Marine Corps commandant, said at a Rand Corp. conference in Washington’s Virginia suburbs today that development of what’s known as 2B software “is going better than probably others might have thought.”

“It’s actually what I would call at this point probably medium risk” as the aircraft approaches initial combat capability, Amos said.

Michael Rein, a Lockheed spokesman, said in an e-mailed statement that Gilmore’s report outlined “a tremendous amount of positive information.”


‘Exceeding Expectations’

“The F-35 aircraft has flown to every corner of the envelope and is meeting or exceeding expectations in flight performance,” Rein said. “The challenges identified are known items and the normal discoveries found in a test program of this size and complexity.”

Joe DellaVedova, spokesman for the Pentagon’s F-35 program, said in an e-mail that “there were no surprises in the report. All of the issues mentioned are well-known to us, the F-35 international partners and our industry team.”

“Although the report is factually accurate, it does not fully highlight the F-35 enterprise’s efforts to address and resolve the known technical and program-related challenges,” he said.

Lockheed F-35 Develops Cracks, Pentagon’s Tester Finds - Bloomberg
 
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USA made it, it will fix it too, to be better than ever. New technology always develops this way. No problem. :D
 
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F-35B IOC pushed back from 2015 to late 2016 or early 2017.

Behind The Threatened F-35 Delays

At this rate, J-20 IOC in 2017 could become operational earlier than F-35A, now delayed to 2017 at the earliest. :p:

You do realise what is IOC right??

J-20 is currently in Flight Testing mode, with 6 known fully produced hull (Maximum no more than 10)

F-35 is in Initial Mass Production Mode, with 103 made and the 134th just enter Assembly line

For a plane to reach IOC, the fighter need to fill 2-4 Squadrons (24-48 planes) with fully trained pilot and fully trained crew. And these 2-4 squardon can perform basic combat function with their craft.

Judging the training regime for any air competency standard is 2 years. The US have already had enough planes to train 2-4 squadron for full IOC within the next 2 years, and the IOC have not changed for F-35, unless major fault were found and F-35 was grounded, then there would be the only reason the IOC date of F-35 would be pushed back

Unless you are telling me China have around 100 J-20 stashed somewhere inside the mountain now, China are not going to get the IOC status with 6 to 10 aircraft in 2 years.....

USA made it, it will fix it too, to be better than ever. New technology always develops this way. No problem. :D

lol Planes do always have problem in term of this scale. Better we discover it now then when we actually have to use it in combat. That way problem will get fixed pretty soon.
 
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lol Planes do always have problem in term of this scale. Better we discover it now then when we actually have to use it in combat. That way problem will get fixed pretty soon.

Of course. Playing catch up by copying is always easier than leading the way in all technological advances.
 
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Of course. Playing catch up by copying is always easier than leading the way in all technological advances.

lol

Even tho my brother is working for Boeing (The Arch-Rival for lockheed) he still say the project is being managed sufficiently. It would have been in more of a mess if Boeing is handling this project

I still don't understand why people have a thing against F-35, it's overpriced, yes, but is it understated??

WIth 130th hull being rolled in the assembly line, THERE ARE NO WAY THE PROJECT IS GOING TO STOP, unless Lockheed want to bankrupt themselves....Still, you see and hear people keep saying the F-35 project should be terminated.
 
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This is the problem of rushing production before development has finished. Is the radar ready? Is the engine ready? Is the EOTS ready? Everything has to be retrofitted to essentially bare empty airframes. F-35 cannot achieve IOC until all software is passed. Simple as that. J-20 2011 prototype is very close to production standard. By next year production would begin. By 2017 J-20 first squadron would be raised.
 
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lol

Even tho my brother is working for Boeing (The Arch-Rival for lockheed) he still say the project is being managed sufficiently. It would have been in more of a mess if Boeing is handling this project

I still don't understand why people have a thing against F-35, it's overpriced, yes, but is it understated??

WIth 130th hull being rolled in the assembly line, THERE ARE NO WAY THE PROJECT IS GOING TO STOP, unless Lockheed want to bankrupt themselves....Still, you see and hear people keep saying the F-35 project should be terminated.

Let them say what they want to say. Cutting edge military hardware is never easy or cheap to develop, troubleshoot, build, maintain or use. This platform will mature nicely in service and serve USA and its allies well into the future, of that there is no doubt.
 
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Who are these people? PDF members? Chinese? US Congress?

Just curious.

Thank you for a good analysis on this thread.

lol, i saw people everywhere saying US is better off get rid of the F-35 Program.....

Here, Aviation Weekly, Aus Air Power and that Stupid Carlo Kopps. Just to name a few....
 
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This is the problem of rushing production before development has finished. Is the radar ready? Is the engine ready? Is the EOTS ready? Everything has to be retrofitted to essentially bare empty airframes. F-35 cannot achieve IOC until all software is passed. Simple as that. J-20 2011 prototype is very close to production standard. By next year production would begin. By 2017 J-20 first squadron would be raised.

Actually, all were ready, the weight and crack things as with other problem were anticipated by the USAF and Lockheed Martin member. The aircraft itself are used in testing now as this phase is generally fish out the problem.

You cannot design something and expect nothing is going wrong with that. Especially a project this big. In computing business, this is called beta testing. Unless you are trying to tell me all Chinese Engineer and Mechanic are geniuses, China will need the Initial production testing phase too.

Plus you cannot field a squadron immediately after your plane enter production phase. You need pilot who can fly it and crew who can service it.

Isn't it the Chinese J-20 currently do not have a proper engine on it?

Let them say what they want to say. Cutting edge military hardware is never easy or cheap to develop, troubleshoot, build, maintain or use. This platform will mature nicely in service and serve USA and its allies well into the future, of that there is no doubt.

lol, the Chinese member here actually do think like that,

J-20 enter Flight Testing, then they expect it to pass with flying colour, and then enter the Production without any hitch, and then field any squadron of the plane without any training.....lol

That's probably seperate the different in quality between American Engineering and Chinese Engineering. American care about every little detail, while these Chinese guy don't :)

Let me call on @gambit just for fun
 
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