Evolution vs. Islam | Mooroo Ke Khayalat

[LeGenD]

Theory of Evolution is not all-encompassing; it does not account for extraterrestrial interventions in the aspect of origins of life and shaping the course of life. It is too world-centric, and GAPS in its constructs are treated with conjectures - nothing concrete.

It was a comet which wiped out dinosaurs eventually and paved way for mammals to flourish and dominate the world. And then humans came.

You may say that extraterrestrial interventions are indicative of the fact that there are additional forces at play in regards to shaping the course of life than explanation offered by the Theory of Evolutionary.

Origins of life = Creation*
Adaptation = Evolution
Extraterrestrial interventions = God Factor

*Expect some researchers to come up with different labels to describe Creation because they have the unfortunate habit of rejecting God at every turn....

Those morons will definitely find out after death that there is far more to this universe than meets the eye. In fact, Quantum physics might change the way WE look at and understand the universe at large.

 

[truthfollower]

will definitely find out after death that there is far more to this universe than meets the eye.

No proof of life after death

 

[CodeforFood]

I found this video, it was put up recently. The reason I am sharing here is that the person explains it really, really well. It's hard to find such a short, well-detailed, and well-produced video that caters to the public queries and misconceptions, on this topic.

Astaghfirullah! kufr kufr... zabardasti se milatay ho

 

[Mad Scientist 2.0]

I want to add a few cents to this debate. It is really ironic to see genesis creationism is gaining support where two muslim names come to my mind when you say about evolution which no one mentions now a days but was two of the greatest scholars and who are deeply religious too . The first name al-jahiz a ninth century scholar and second name is Ibn Khaldun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_evolution

Recent views of genesis creationism is in roots with a turkic guru named Adnan Oktar .For those who don't know about him read the following link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Oktar

I think the correct form of evolution in my theory is the creation of the universe is like a programming Allah put forth the programming and through that evolution occurred. We know from literature that prior to humans intelligent creatures roamed on earth human originated much later in the scenario . The only difference here is that the evolution is not based upon chance rather it was based upon a pathway that is put forward in a meticulous programming by Allah.

what was the belief before Darwin the great about humans origin in Islam? came from adam and eve?

No one knows we can speculate like I did but it all remain a theory we don't have the capacity to observe for one genus turn into another genus but evolution as a theory holds the most logical explanation. Same goes for Allah the existence of Allah gives more logical explanation to existence than many other claims which includes spaghetti monsters.

 

[LeGenD]

No proof of life after death

Do not be quick to jump to a conclusion.

There are things even in our world for which science does not offer limited explanation. Paranormal for instance. I have seen a few things myself.

 

[truthfollower]

Paranormal for instance. I have seen things myself.

what things? I have seen things too but it was only in my mind not in reality for example looking at a shadow of something at night or something at very low light and later it was just my thoughts or my brain trying to find faces or things

 

[LeGenD]

what things? I have seen things too but it was only in my mind not in reality for example looking at a shadow of something at night or something at very low light and later it was just my thoughts or my brain trying to find faces or things

And I was expecting this kind of response as well - so predictable.

I am perfectly able to tell the difference between optics playing tricks on me and something strange which was tangible but impossible in theory. And I wasn't the only eye-witness of it. I would say no more.

Your utter lack of belief is your personal problem. My take is that WE have much to learn about the universe at large. WE are barely scratching the surface as of late.

 

[truthfollower]

I am perfectly able to tell the difference between optics playing tricks on me and something strange which was tangible but impossible in theory. And I wasn't the only eye-witness of it. I would say no more.

I was once shown picture of a jin later turned out it was just a speck of dust on the lens

 

[LeGenD]

I was once shown picture of a jin later turned out it was just a speck of dust on the lens

There are FAKES and STUNTS out there - true.

Real experiences do not necessarily happen in front of cameras, not necessarily discussed, and not necessarily documented. They might happen when you are least expecting them to, and catch you completely offguard. The incident I alluded to happened years ago. There are some WESTern stories as well and nobody is able to refute them.

Do not underestimate the ways of NATURE, let alone forces which WE do not understand.

Also understand that I am scientific-minded as one can be. I just have an open mind which is for the best.

 

[truthfollower]

Also understand that I am scientific-minded as one can be. I just have an open mind which is for the best.

That's very nice

 

[truthfollower]

There is no proof that some mindless atoms came together and formed millions of species over time.

Every element in your body came from stars, which are ingredients for life. Maybe you and I have elements came from same star or different one who knows. Hydrogen and little bit of Helium came from Big bang and all other elements in periodic table came from stars.
The B2FH paper[1] was a landmark scientific paper on the origin of the chemical elements. The paper's title is "Synthesis of the Elements in Stars"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2FH_paper


19 October 1983

The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences has decided to award the 1983 Nobel Prize in Physics by one half to

Professor Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, University of Chicago, Chicago, USA, for his theoretical studies of the physical processes of importance to the structure and evolution of the stars,

and by the other half to

professor William A. Fowler, California, Institute of Technology, Pasadena, USA, for his theoretical and experimental studies of the nuclear reactions of importance in the formation of the chemical elements in the universe.
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1983/press-release/

The Most Astounding Fact - Animated
Neil deGrasse Tyson

"When I look up at the night sky and I know that yes we are part of this universe and we are in this universe but perhaps more important than both of those facts is that Universe is in US."
"My atoms came from those stars. There is level of connectivity."

 

[Mujahid Memon]

Every element in your body came from stars, which are ingredients for life. Maybe you and I have elements came from same star or different one who knows. Hydrogen and little bit of Helium came from Big bang and all other elements in periodic table came from stars.
The B2FH paper[1] was a landmark scientific paper on the origin of the chemical elements. The paper's title is "Synthesis of the Elements in Stars"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2FH_paper


19 October 1983

The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences has decided to award the 1983 Nobel Prize in Physics by one half to

Professor Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, University of Chicago, Chicago, USA, for his theoretical studies of the physical processes of importance to the structure and evolution of the stars,

and by the other half to

professor William A. Fowler, California, Institute of Technology, Pasadena, USA, for his theoretical and experimental studies of the nuclear reactions of importance in the formation of the chemical elements in the universe.
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1983/press-release/

The Most Astounding Fact - Animated
Neil deGrasse Tyson

"When I look up at the night sky and I know that yes we are part of this universe and we are in this universe but perhaps more important than both of those facts is that Universe is in US."
"My atoms came from those stars. There is level of connectivity."

Ok so what. There is no life on stars.

Where did stars came from? Out of nowhere? Where did that nowhere came from?

What if reality is not real??

What if the universe is just a test tube lab experiment of some "beings"??

What if we are in a computer simulation??

 

[Cliftonite]

Evolution is a scientific fact. Whether someone chooses to believe in it or not makes no difference.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Evolution is a scientific theory

 

[Cliftonite]

And I was expecting this kind of response as well - so predictable.

I am perfectly able to tell the difference between optics playing tricks on me and something strange which was tangible but impossible in theory. And I wasn't the only eye-witness of it. I would say no more.

Your utter lack of belief is your personal problem. My take is that WE have much to learn about the universe at large. WE are barely scratching the surface as of late.

And science will help us do that. Not blind faith.