EU-Turkey Deal already dead - EU introduces Plan B

[MarkusS]

As i predicted, Erdogan overplayed. bye bye visa free travel for turks.

http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-l...an-b-without-turkey-davutoglu-erdogan-report/

The Eu already creates plan B. The greek islands boardering turkey will be sealed off and all ferry traffic will be cut off completly. That way refugees are trapped there. The ones who arrive will be send into detention camps and brought back to their origin country.

The message that its hopeless will have the same effect for them as the deal with turkey.

The promised payment to turkey will also be stopped and send to greece.

Thats exactly what teh conservative parties in italia, spain, hungary, romania, france, germany and poland wanted.

This is super exciting news and the news i and so many others have waited for. The "pro turkey" fraction in Europe is basicly on its last hole.

@Vauban @flamer84 @Sinan @bsruzm @Zulkarneyn @vostok

 

[bsruzm]

"The EU is working on an alternative plan to stem the influx of refugees because of concern that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan could go back on a migrant exchange deal with Europe, Germany’s Bild reported Monday.

The paper cited an unnamed “EU minister” saying that if the arrangement between Ankara and Brussels did fail,"

Both Politico and Germany's Bild aren't credible though what you are saying here:

ones who arrive will be send into detention camps and brought back to their origin country.

That is what Europe should have done long ago.

 

[Steve781]

As long as everybody else secures their border, who cares how many land in Greece?

 

[MarkusS]

"The EU is working on an alternative plan to stem the influx of refugees because of concern that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan could go back on a migrant exchange deal with Europe, Germany’s Bild reported Monday.

The paper cited an unnamed “EU minister” saying that if the arrangement between Ankara and Brussels did fail,"

Both Politico and Germany's Bild aren't credible though what you are saying here:



That is what Europe should have done long ago.

You dont know how Europe works. This info was made public intentional. Of cours the Eu plans an alternative deal. Nobody in europe wants this. Since Erdogan said turkey wont fullfill the EU visa points this already shows the deal will break.

And i think thats good news that this agreement breaks. Infact i thank Erdogan for this.

 

[flamer84]

As long as everybody else secures their border, who cares how many land in Greece?

We should help Greece though.................................................

.............................with armed guards who'd watch over barbed wired camps where all the rapefugees would be interned.And,ofcourse with some money,so that those interned get 1(one) meal a day.2(two) meals a day or 3 would just be unbearable for the European tax payer so I don't think it's doable...unfortunately-we're in a economical crisis after all.Anyway,I think people can get by with some pork cans a day.


Pls,start a campaign......#donateporkmeatforrefugees

 

[KediKesenFare3]

LOL

A strategic hoax with the aim of throwing mud at Turkey.

If you are interested in why BILD is now spreading false news about Turkey...here you go:

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Lawyer: Turkish president seeks to gag German media boss

BERLIN (AP) - A lawyer for Turkey's president says he is seeking a court injunction against the head of one of Germany's biggest publishing houses.

Mathias Doepfner, the chief executive of Axel Springer, has expressed solidary with a TV comedian who wrote a crude poem about Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Erdogan's German lawyer Ralf Hoecker said Monday that he has petitioned the Cologne regional court because Doepfner had repeated an accusation of bestiality contained in the poem.

Hoecker said the court has already gagged a filmmaker who made a video inspired by the poem.

TV comedian Jan Boehmermann, who authored the poem, is being investigated on suspicion of insulting a foreign head of state. Under German law, the probe required government permission to go ahead, which was granted.

Source: http://www.12newsnow.com/story/31926420/lawyer-turkish-president-seeks-to-gag-german-media-boss
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WIKIPEDIA

The Bild newspaper (or Bild-Zeitung, literally Picture Newspaper; pronounced [ˈbɪlt]) is a German tabloid published by Axel Springer AG.

The paper is published from Monday to Saturday; on Sundays, its sister paper Bild am Sonntag ("Picture on the Sunday") is published instead, which has a different style and its own editors. Bild is tabloid in style but broadsheet in size. It is the best-selling non-Asian newspaper and has the sixth-largest circulation worldwide.[1]

Bild has been described as "notorious for its mix of gossip, inflammatory language, and sensationalism" and as having a huge influence on German politicians.[2] Its nearest English-language stylistic and journalistic equivalent is often considered to be the British national newspaper The Sun, the second highest selling European tabloid newspaper, with which it shares a degree of rivalry.[3][4][5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild
Der Spiegel wrote in 2006 that Bild "flies just under the nonsense threshold of American and British tabloids ... For the German desperate, it is a daily dose of high-resolution soft ****".[6] According to The Guardian, for 28 years from 1984 to 2012, Bild had topless girls featuring on its first page; the paper published more than 5,000 topless pictures.[7]

 

[bsruzm]

You dont know how Europe works. This info was made public intentional. Of cours the Eu plans an alternative deal. Nobody in europe wants this. Since Erdogan said turkey wont fullfill the EU visa points this already shows the deal will break.

And i think thats good news that this agreement breaks. Infact i thank Erdogan for this.

I honestly don't care EU and it's crisis but it's fun here on PDF with you guys then you thank Erdoğan so he enforced EU to plan B according to some papers. That reminded me of another conservative Orban on Erdooğan:

"Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has expressed skepticism that EUrope has any other solution than to rely on Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to resolve Europe's migrant crisis, according to the Wall Street Journal.

“I think now the hope of the European leaders is in Erdogan,” Mr. Orban said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal published on Friday. “We have to pray every Sunday for Erdogan,” the Hungarian prime minister was quoted as saying."

Though If I were you, I wouldn't be that happy.

 

[Vergennes]

We should help Greece though.................................................

.............................with armed guards who'd watch over barbed wired camps where all the rapefugees would be interned.And,ofcourse with some money,so that those interned get 1(one) meal a day.2(two) meals a day or 3 would just be unbearable for the European tax payer so I don't think it's doable...unfortunately-we're in a economical crisis after all.Anyway,I think people can get by with some pork cans a day.


Pls,start a campaign......#donateporkmeatforrefugees

The solution to keep the illegal intruders out...

You build fences....

You put armed guards....

Despite the propaganda,the fences the Hungarian built and the armed guards they put reduced drastically the inflow of intruders....
"Fences don't stop people" they said.

I forgot something !

If the human right groups,anarchists whatsoever are butthurt and if the illegal intruders aren't happy..... continue,you are on the good path !

@MarkusS

 

[MarkusS]

I honestly don't care EU and it's crisis but it's fun here on PDF with you guys then you thank Erdoğan so he enforced EU to plan B according to some papers. That reminded me of another conservative Orban on Erdooğan:

"Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has expressed skepticism that EUrope has any other solution than to rely on Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to resolve Europe's migrant crisis, according to the Wall Street Journal.

“I think now the hope of the European leaders is in Erdogan,” Mr. Orban said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal published on Friday. “We have to pray every Sunday for Erdogan,” the Hungarian prime minister was quoted as saying."

Though If I were you, I wouldn't be that happy.

Why shouldn´t i be happy?

 

[MarkusS]

lol

Erdogan said few days ago he expects visa free ravel for turks by june.

Now that he was hit by the backlash he said he made his anti europe remarks out of anger and that he expects visa free travel in octobre. what an idiot

 

[MarkusS]

Great news, EU finally kicks Erdogans ***...in a very classy way.

Turkey blackmailed EU today when one of Erdogans advisors wrote on twitter:

"EU should make the right decission of we send refugees".

The EU made the right decission.

EU parliament president Schulz today announced that it is totally out of any debate that turkey will get VISA freedom if it doesn´t fullfill all points 100%. Including the terrorism point that Erdogan said he will never change.

http://a1.am/en/2016/05/11/schulz-blocks-turkeys-visa-bid

Schulz said because of this he did not transmit the proposal to the senate today and because of this the deadline won´t be reached.

And now comes the best part:

Schulz said he doesn´t want lecture Erdogan about the turkish consitution, but his office as president is sole representative and his words are meaningless since he has no legislative powers.

Erdogan yesterday already tried to backpedal as he noticed that his idiotic rants did gargantuan damage. He said he doesn´t expect visa freedom until octobre now and apologied for his words...claiming they were said in anger.


german interior minister De Maizier said today he doubts the turkey deal has a future and its time to skip to Plan B. Isolating the 5 greek islands in question and allow no traffic from there to land with ferries and give the money planned for turkey to greece.

In the last days the effect is already visible. Refugees on Chios and Lesbos are so desperate, that they skip back to turkey. Some even tried to swim the 15km back to turkey.

http://greece.greekreporter.com/201...e-greece-refugees-try-to-swim-back-to-turkey/

I cant stop laughing. Few days ago some pompous turks like Sinan claimed here their visa free travel to EU is already certain. They believed EU needs turkey and will do evrything. Their funny little Sultan overplayed his cards...

He could have been the turkish leader who gets the visa freedom...but he broke it out of his idiotic behavior. Not just that, he lost his only card. The situation has turned. Those refugees dont want go greece anymore since the route is blocked and reverse to turkey.

The EU was able to bring that refugee situation into a full reverse thrust scenario.

@Vauban @flamer84 @mike2000 is back @Sinan @Zulkarneyn @bsruzm

 

[flamer84]

Great news, EU finally kicks Erdogans ***...in a very classy way.

Turkey blackmailed EU today when one of Erdogans advisors wrote on twitter:

"EU should make the right decission of we send refugees".

The EU made the right decission.

EU parliament president Schulz today announced that it is totally out of any debate that turkey will get VISA freedom if it doesn´t fullfill all points 100%. Including the terrorism point that Erdogan said he will never change.

http://a1.am/en/2016/05/11/schulz-blocks-turkeys-visa-bid

Schulz said because of this he did not transmit the proposal to the senate today and because of this the deadline won´t be reached.

And now comes the best part:

Schulz said he doesn´t want lecture Erdogan about the turkish consitution, but his office as president is sole representative and his words are meaningless since he has no legislative powers.

Erdogan yesterday already tried to backpedal as he noticed that his idiotic rants did gargantuan damage. He said he doesn´t expect visa freedom until octobre now and apologied for his words...claiming they were said in anger.


german interior minister De Maizier said today he doubts the turkey deal has a future and its time to skip to Plan B. Isolating the 5 greek islands in question and allow no traffic from there to land with ferries and give the money planned for turkey to greece.

In the last days the effect is already visible. Refugees on Chios and Lesbos are so desperate, that they skip back to turkey. Some even tried to swim the 15km back to turkey.

http://greece.greekreporter.com/201...e-greece-refugees-try-to-swim-back-to-turkey/

I cant stop laughing. Few days ago some pompous turks like Sinan claimed here their visa free travel to EU is already certain. They believed EU needs turkey and will do evrything. Their funny little Sultan overplayed his cards...

He could have been the turkish leader who gets the visa freedom...but he broke it out of his idiotic behavior. Not just that, he lost his only card. The situation has turned. Those refugees dont want go greece anymore since the route is blocked and reverse to turkey.

The EU was able to bring that refugee situation into a full reverse thrust scenario.

@Vauban @flamer84 @mike2000 is back @Sinan @Zulkarneyn @bsruzm

The Australian model should have been used in the first place and by that I mean using some (preferably barren) Greek islands as internment camps.All refugees should be shipped there and interned under guard.

 

[MarkusS]

The Australian model should have been used in the first place and by that I mean using some (preferably barren) Greek islands as internment camps.All refugees should be shipped there and interned under guard.

Thats done now. And i must laugh so hard that that turk guy threats to send more refugees, meanwhile refugees try to swim back to turkey.

Remember...few days ago the turks acted super pompous. Here in the forum as well as their leadership.

Now they stand with nothing. Relations with EU ruined. Refugee card burned up and refugees trying to escape EU and swim back to turkey. No Visa free travel...

and their pompous dwarf sultan president remembered from EU officials that his office is only represential and he isn´t seen as a decission making factor.

VICTORY

They are cut back to the status of the developing country they are.

 

[flamer84]

Thats done now. And i must laugh so hard that that turk guy threats to send more refugees, meanwhile refugees try to swim back to turkey.

Remember...few days ago the turks acted super pompous. Here in the forum as well as their leadership.

Now they stand with nothing. Relations with EU ruined. Refugee card burned up and refugees trying to escape EU and swim back to turkey. No Visa free travel...

and their pompous dwarf sultan president remembered from EU officials that his office is only represential and he isn´t seen as a decission making factor.

VICTORY

They are cut back to the status of the developing country they are.

Also,today a German court rejected the indictement of that German journalist who took a piss at faildogan.

Turkey was needed in the Cold War,we must understand now that they're fanatics ,they're Qatar2.0.It's better to sit down and talk to Russia than let these jihadists dictate terms to us.

 

[MarkusS]

Also,today a German court rejected the indictement of that German journalist who took a piss at faildogan.

Turkey was needed in the Cold War,we must understand now that they're fanatics ,they're Qatar2.0.It's better to sit down and talk to Russia than let these jihadists dictate terms to us.

Why? I find the current situation much better.

Is there something greater than seeing an idiot overplaying his cards?