Erdogan's civilizing policies in North Syria

[KediKesenFare3]

You all definitely read about Turkey's ongoing operation in North Syria called "Euphrates Shield". People are often debating about the geopolitical implications and the potential influence Turkey will have on political events and negotiations regarding Syria's future due to this military intervention. I personally don't believe that Ankara will ever leave this region again. At least, the Turkish government will ensure that Turkey's cultural footprint will last in this region for the next generations.

If Syria won't fall apart and the Sunni Arab, Alawi Arab and Kurdish populations agree on a federal governing system Ankara surely will insist that parts of North Syria should be granted a special status within the Syrian state even though they're overwhelmingly Arab and Sunni.

Operation "Euphrates Shield" started less than 6 months ago but you already can see a strong Turkish influence in the area, which is conquered by Turkish-backed FSA forces and the Turkish military.

Jarablus is a perfect case study. It's a town in close proximity to the Turkish border where the Turkish operation in fact started last year.

This is how the town looks today after liberating it from DAESH. People are happy to have got this stressful period behind them and they already returned to the daily routine:

But now the really difficult period has begun for the Turkish gov't.

No one in Turkey wants the establishment of harsh assimilation policies towards any Sunni Arab person. But leaving them how they are isn't an option either. Therefore AKP developed a strategy to re-educate the population.

They're implementing a twin-track approach.

1. Act responsibly instead of merely talking about responsibility.

Let the adult people experience the difference between living under any Arab ruler and living under the protection of Turkey. Action speaks louder than words.

2. Focus on the young people. Forget the elders.

You can't win the brains of the parents and grandparents but you can change the future of North Syria by helping the young people. They're open for innovation and fundamental modernization.

So what is Turkey doing in Jarablus right now?

• re-establishing the public order
  
• re-establishing structures of the state and civil society
• providing public services and utilities like food, water, shelter and medical care to those in need and restoring critical public services
  
• forming a new government
• re-organizing security forces (police and military)
  
• undertaking visible efforts to dismantle terrorist organizations
• implementing educational reforms

AKP's main goal is triggering a gradual cultural change to create a modern, civilized, righteous rolemodel citizen of Sunni Arab origin in the Turkish-held areas in Syria showing the Arab and the Muslim world the superiority of the Turkish model.


(Sorry for my limited English skills.)

 

[Zulkarneyn]

(Sorry for my limited English skills.)

Your English is great. Great informative post buddy

Action speaks louder than words, in due time our investments, thereby influence, in the region will be more appearant. As you point out the fruits are already becoming visible now.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

So in your POV's best case scenario Turkey added some land and towns to its country, geographical size grew, which isn't that great given that still a large part of the area is YPG held and new problems are being fueled from every side.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Your English is great. Great informative post buddy

Action speaks louder than words, in due time our investments, thereby influence, in the region will be more appearant. As you point out the fruits are already becoming visible now.

Thank you but to tell the hole truth yesterday the leading people in Ankara experienced a little setback for the first time showing AKP how careful they have to be.

Like I mentioned in the op, Turkey is mainly focusing on the young people and education to change the future of this region. They therefore officially decided to ban niqab for female teachers and forbid wearing keffiyeh for male teachers in the schools because of "security reasons". @Kaptaan AKP did this. lol

However, this was a mistake. It's still too early for such kind of policies. People demonstrated last night in Jarablus and the decision is now overturned:

https://twitter.com/x/status/830742522880212992

This isn't necessarily a bad thing. They tested the boundaries of the people. Anyway, the change of minds is happening on very different ways, which I hopefully will show in this thread. There are plenty of other successful changes.

So in your POV's best case scenario Turkey added...

No.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Government office in Jarablus

Celebrating Turkey and Erdogan after liberating the town from DAESH.

Jarablus is effectively a bilingual town now. All schools in North Syria are Arabic-speaking but Turkish is now mandatory as the first foreign language. The Arabic children are growing up bilingually.

They even include disabled children into the school classes providing wheelchairs and other desperately needed equipment.

The children are also taught the Turkish Latin alphabet.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

School attendance is obligatory for all of the male and female children.

 

[HannibalBarca]

You all definitely read about Turkey's ongoing operation in North Syria called "Euphrates Shield". People are often debating about the geopolitical implications and the potential influence Turkey will have on political events and negotiations regarding Syria's future due to this military intervention. I personally don't believe that Ankara will ever leave this region again. At least, the Turkish government will ensure that Turkey's cultural footprint will last in this region for the next generations.

If Syria won't fall apart and the Sunni Arab, Alawi Arab and Kurdish populations agree on a federal governing system Ankara surely will insist that parts of North Syria should be granted a special status within the Syrian state even though they're overwhelmingly Arab and Sunni.

Operation "Euphrates Shield" started less than 6 months ago but you already can see a strong Turkish influence in the area, which is conquered by Turkish-backed FSA forces and the Turkish military.

Jarablus is a perfect case study. It's a town in close proximity to the Turkish border where the Turkish operation in fact started last year.

This is how the town looks today after liberating it from DAESH. People are happy to have got this stressful period behind them and they already returned to the daily routine:

But now the really difficult period has begun for the Turkish gov't.

No one in Turkey wants the establishment of harsh assimilation policies towards any Sunni Arab person. But leaving them how they are isn't an option either. Therefore AKP developed a strategy to re-educate the population.

They're implementing a twin-track approach.

1. Act responsibly instead of merely talking about responsibility.

Let the adult people experience the difference between living under any Arab ruler and living under the protection of Turkey. Action speaks louder than words.

2. Focus on the young people. Forget the elders.

You can't win the brains of the parents and grandparents but you can change the future of North Syria by helping the young people. They're open for innovation and fundamental modernization.

So what is Turkey doing in Jarablus right now?

• re-establishing the public order
  
• re-establishing structures of the state and civil society
• providing public services and utilities like food, water, shelter and medical care to those in need and restoring critical public services
  
• forming a new government
• re-organizing security forces (police and military)
  
• undertaking visible efforts to dismantle terrorist organizations
• implementing educational reforms

AKP's main goal is triggering a gradual cultural change to create a modern, civilized, righteous rolemodel citizen of Sunni Arab origin in the Turkish-held areas in Syria showing the Arab and the Muslim world the superiority of the Turkish model in comparison to Iran's Welayat-e faqih ideology and Saudi Arabia's Wahhabi worldview.


(Sorry for my limited English skills.)

So for you in the whole arab world only 2 sys exist the Iranian and the Saudi one???
As for your Q, Turkish democratic sys is not the best... well we are seeing it's limit... within Turkey today.

And for the last Q of yours, if North syria or whatever will be "turkish style mindset" , the answer is yes for turkmens and not for Arabs. Period. as you can see, everything goes back to the roots... nationalism/identity and such.
At least they are learning a second language...

ps: no need a degree in "genius" to see for the past few hundreds years under the Ottoman empire... when nearly no arabs got "switched" under "turkish mindset/language"...
ex: You are muslim and you have to choose a language , one of them is the language used in the quran and a second one, which is not, which one will you choose?

 

[Deliorman]

The least Turkey should do is to liberate (one way or another) the Turkmen areas in Northern Syria. Turkmens will feel much better under the protection ot their Turkish brothers for sure. I don't even give a f*ck about the other ethnicities living Syria anyway.

 

[HannibalBarca]

The least Turkey should do is to liberate (one way or another) the Turkmen areas in Northern Syria. Turkmens will feel much better under the protection ot their Turkish brothers for sure. I don't even give a f*ck about the other ethnicities living Syria anyway.

You should give a f*ck to others, since they are human beings... and even more..innocent...
And those Syrian Turkmen are not fighting for turkey ***... but against a bunch of stupid fools for their own country and life...

 

[TheCamelGuy]

Perhaps they should've only used FSA flags, since it's Syrian land right? I know what they're trying to do but it won't work, and if it does with that tiny piece of land then it doesn't solve the YPG/PKK problem either, it only makes the SAA/Syrian gov support them more.

 

[SubWater]

I'm sorry for you because of your racist title De-Arabazation and civilizing.

 

[marbella]

Dearabisation and turkeyfyzation.

 

[CrimsonFury]

We invest too much...just install local warlords that keep scum away from your borders and leave the people to fend for themselves. And make clear that if anyone tries to cook up mischief at the border that person will die. Simple as that

 

[mike2000 is back]

You all definitely read about Turkey's ongoing operation in North Syria called "Euphrates Shield". People are often debating about the geopolitical implications and the potential influence Turkey will have on political events and negotiations regarding Syria's future due to this military intervention. I personally don't believe that Ankara will ever leave this region again. At least, the Turkish government will ensure that Turkey's cultural footprint will last in this region for the next generations.

If Syria won't fall apart and the Sunni Arab, Alawi Arab and Kurdish populations agree on a federal governing system Ankara surely will insist that parts of North Syria should be granted a special status within the Syrian state even though they're overwhelmingly Arab and Sunni.

Operation "Euphrates Shield" started less than 6 months ago but you already can see a strong Turkish influence in the area, which is conquered by Turkish-backed FSA forces and the Turkish military.

Jarablus is a perfect case study. It's a town in close proximity to the Turkish border where the Turkish operation in fact started last year.

This is how the town looks today after liberating it from DAESH. People are happy to have got this stressful period behind them and they already returned to the daily routine:

But now the really difficult period has begun for the Turkish gov't.

No one in Turkey wants the establishment of harsh assimilation policies towards any Sunni Arab person. But leaving them how they are isn't an option either. Therefore AKP developed a strategy to re-educate the population.

They're implementing a twin-track approach.

1. Act responsibly instead of merely talking about responsibility.

Let the adult people experience the difference between living under any Arab ruler and living under the protection of Turkey. Action speaks louder than words.

2. Focus on the young people. Forget the elders.

You can't win the brains of the parents and grandparents but you can change the future of North Syria by helping the young people. They're open for innovation and fundamental modernization.

So what is Turkey doing in Jarablus right now?

• re-establishing the public order
  
• re-establishing structures of the state and civil society
• providing public services and utilities like food, water, shelter and medical care to those in need and restoring critical public services
  
• forming a new government
• re-organizing security forces (police and military)
  
• undertaking visible efforts to dismantle terrorist organizations
• implementing educational reforms

AKP's main goal is triggering a gradual cultural change to create a modern, civilized, righteous rolemodel citizen of Sunni Arab origin in the Turkish-held areas in Syria showing the Arab and the Muslim world the superiority of the Turkish model in comparison to Iran's Welayat-e faqih ideology and Saudi Arabia's Wahhabi worldview.


(Sorry for my limited English skills.)

well,I believe Syria will be(it's the best solution for the war torn country) divided according to foriegn and regional powers spheres of influence just like China for example was divided into spheres of influence pre WWI and WWII. The country will be divided into zones of influence by Russia/Iranian zones(under the Syrian regime) and their proxies, Turkish zones and it's proxies,Western (U.S,U.K,France) Kurdish zones, and maybe some little pockets of lawless zones influenced by the gulf states (led by Saudi Arabia). At the end of the day, the country will never be the same again , that's for sure. . I don't think its a bad solution either , if it leads to stability and peace at last.

 

[SouI]

It's still too early for such kind of policies.

Is it too early for such policies in our country too or what?