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Erdoğan: Fate of 1.7 billion Muslims in the world should not be in hands of 5 countries

I completely disagree.

Fate of the Muslim world and that of Pakistan are intertwined in all spheres of the argument.

Is this a sarcastic comment? Pakistan is only useful for the Muslim world as it has nukes and professional armed forces. Beyond that, it has nothing to offer.
 
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Is this a sarcastic comment? Pakistan is only useful for the Muslim world as it has nukes and professional armed forces. Beyond that, it has nothing to offer.
Even if we cast aside the argument of the Islamic Bomb.

Pakistan hosts the most ambitious youthful population in the Muslim world. A Pakistani has a better narrative of life as a Muslim in modern times in a nation state than any other muslim dominant country.

The diverse ethnic nation also presents one of the last refuge of inclusive living in the post modern Muslim world.

It simply does not have a good salesman and honestly i do not mind it but circumstance may compel Pakistan sooner rather than later to take the central stage in the Muslim world.

Be it academics, social justice or question of industrialisation
 
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How come you guys talking about Muslim unity without engaging India which has quite big population in our country?

Is Turkey a Muslim country by constitution?
Very good point.
Indian Muslims and Pakistani SHOULD go hand in hand but they CANT. And they DONT. Thé first thing they always say to me is that previously it was one country. Fck man. Just accept it and move.on but they really don't try to be friends and act coldly.( apart from one guy who has global mindset). Non muslms Indians behave better. But they almost faint when I tell them where I am from lol

So.if.two countries can't get along in the bloc , it will introduce unnecessary friction

But it would be really.good.to see Pakistan and.india cooperating. We should and must include Bangladesh. And should create a better version of EU.
But if only Muslims can get over nationalis
 
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Very good point.
Indian Muslims and Pakistani SHOULD go hand in hand but they CANT. And they DONT. Thé first thing they always say to me is that previously it was one country. Fck man. Just accept it and move.on but they really don't try to be friends and act coldly.( apart from one guy who has global mindset). Non muslms Indians behave better. But they almost faint when I tell them where I am from lol

So.if.two countries can't get along in the bloc , it will introduce unnecessary friction

But it would be really.good.to see Pakistan and.india cooperating. We should and must include Bangladesh. And should create a better version of EU.
But if only Muslims can get over nationalis

Sensible post...The possibility of India and Pakistan people reconciling with each other has greater possibility than Muslims nations uniting with each other. Forget Muslims, religion based unity never works in real world...It is utopian dream sold by powerful entities to exploit less powerful ones....Cultural simillarity can sometime be a bridge but religion will never work ouT.
 
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Sensible post...The possibility of India and Pakistan people reconciling with each other has greater possibility than Muslims nations uniting with each other. Forget Muslims, religion based unity never works in real world...It is utopian dream sold by powerful entities to exploit less powerful ones....Cultural simillarity can sometime be a bridge but religion will never work ouT.
It's the religion that has United the Muslims in the past. Culture is helpful. But Muslims are wired djfferently. Natiomalism ( greed ) has torn the world into pieces.
U can't really unite with someone who has different core values. Or
You can unite better with shared core values. I replied to a post few days ago about this same issue.

India pakistan has greater prospect since we used to live together but it's unattainable due to political leadership in India. .I heard India has banned internet these days. Where are you posting from
 
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It's the religion that has United the Muslims in the past. Culture is helpful. But Muslims are wired djfferently. Natiomalism ( greed ) has torn the world into pieces.
U can't really unite with someone who has different core values. Or
You can unite better with shared core values. I replied to a post few days ago about this same issue.

India pakistan has greater prospect since we used to live together but it's unattainable due to political leadership in India. .I heard India has banned internet these days. Where are you posting from

I am from Dallas.India is in the mode of disruption.We are just pretending to solve few issues that was being debated for 72 years...
But i am hoping things will settle down in few years..

I am quite optimistic about people of Pakistan and India...Kashmir will be sorted out in a year or 2.Either India will loose Kashmir valley or take control of the situation completely.
After Kashmir issue is settled, economy and population of our country will force our respective govt to maintain peaceful environment to focous on economy
 
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But the fate of 1.7 billion Muslims in the world is indeed still in the hands of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council due to fragile relation btw such nations ... everyone calls & considers itself as self-proclaimed leader of Islamic Ummah & meanwhile plan to hurt each other .. probably Erdogan is talking about other planet.
 
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Shameful Pakistan government did not attend this summit. If Turkey didn't back our Kashmir stance we all would be complaining but since Pakistan let others down we have many excuses. How can we expect any respect from other nations when we can't even make own decisions. Yes Saudi will give money but we have a general as the leader of Saudi so called Islamic army. We gave gurantees to Saudis to defend them if any attacks against them. I thought pti and Imran Khan would bring a independent policy. Am disappointed

Trt World asks similar questions regarding the matter.

 
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Muslims need a dominant Muslim power. Christians have the USA which keeps Christian nations under its control.


You seriously think they mix religion/beliefs with politics and governance, huh ?? LOL :lol:

U.S and Christianity are miles apart my friend. ;)
 
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All countries are hypocrites. Muslim countries are no exclusion. 3 million muslims are in concentration camps in China. They torture them, rape them, harvest their organs alive. We all just look the other way.
Arabs buy the organs thats why the Muslim world is so quiet, even Turkey.
If this wad done by Americans the world would be screaming though :lol:

Let me put 25 million Nigerian and other African Muslims in Turkey and see how well you get along with them.

Disclaimer: I am not saying Turks are racists.
Thats true, put 25 million Turks at Nigeria and wouldn't be pissed if they get mad too.
 
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