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September 18, 2010: Two years after the U.S. Army successfully tested its new EQ-36 artillery and mortar finding radar, the first one is being sent to a combat zone (Afghanistan). Easier to use and repair, as well as more reliable than its predecessor (the AN TPQ-36/37), the EQ-36 will also be able to scan all around (360 degrees), rather than just 90 degrees (as with the current system,) and be faster as well. The army wants to buy at least 180 EQ-36s, for about $9 million each. But so far, the army only has money to buy 33 of them.

The older FireFinder (AN TPQ-36/37) radar has gotten a bad reputation over the last few years. That was often for failing to detect incoming mortar fire. FireFinder was developed in the 1970s, based on Vietnam experience with enemy mortar and rocket attacks.

FireFinder is a radar system which, when it spots an incoming shell, calculates where it came from and transmits the location to a nearby artillery unit, which then fires on where the mortar is (or was). This process takes 3-4 minutes (or less, for experienced troops.) FireFinder worked as advertised, but got little use until U.S. troops entered Iraq. Since then, the FireFinder has been very effective, and heavily used. Too heavily used. There were not a lot of spare parts stockpiled for FireFinder, and several hundred million dollars worth had to be quickly ordered. The manufacturer has also introduced new components, that are more reliable, and easier to maintain.

Meanwhile, existing FireFinders are often failing to catch incoming fire, either because of equipment failure, or because the enemy is using tactics that fool the radar. For example, in Iraq, American bases are generally on higher ground than the mortars firing at them. Putting bases on the high ground enables you to watch more of the surrounding terrain. But FireFinder needs a line-of-sight to get a good fix on the firing weapons position. If the mortar is too far below the radar, FireFinder cannot accurately spot where the fire is coming from.

Another problem is that if the mortar is too close, FireFinder is much less likely to quickly determine where the fire is coming from. So the enemy mortar teams get as close as they can before firing. This still makes the mortar teams vulnerable to counterattack by coalition troops, but not the immediate (in a few minutes) artillery fire that FireFinder can make happen under the right conditions.

At first, the army was going to halt further upgrades on FireFinder, which, after all was developed over thirty years ago, and begin developing the EQ-36, a new system that can better deal with the kinds of problems encountered in Iraq. But FireFinder has been so useful, that new upgrades were pursued anyway, while work continued on the EQ-36. The upgrades have also been made available to other users of FireFinder (including allies in the Middle East; Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.) FireFinders are still doing most of the work out there, and it will be several years before EQ-36 replaces a significant number of them.
 
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I was thinking if PA could use this system along the boarder (especially in Kashmir, Sialkot, and Sensitive areas, it could detect mortar fire often used by Indian Army....what do you guys say on this
 
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actually for many years PA enjoyed a subjective edge over Indian military as they use the fire finder but have long lost that edge as the upgraded fire finder was one of the first acquisition IA made from US so it will be about time that PA decides to leave the up gradation program and go for the newer EQ-36 but then again the dreaded financial restraints !!
 
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actually for many years PA enjoyed a subjective edge over Indian military as they use the fire finder but have long lost that edge as the upgraded fire finder was one of the first acquisition IA made from US so it will be about time that PA decides to leave the up gradation program and go for the newer EQ-36 but then again the dreaded financial restraints !!

9 Mio is a high price but we certainly get some to work with existing firefinders...
 
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If the Norinco MBRLs get in service with PA, then their range would suffice to negate threat of any FireFinder from Indian side. I think recently PA is more interested in acquiring cheaper, disposable MBRL systems.

Send a barrage of rockets into enemy. because we can make these rockets easily in Pakistan.
 
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9 Mio is a high price but we certainly get some to work with existing firefinders...

what about AN TPQ-36/37. indian army dont have the edge. They are not close to us and the border consists of plain area. so it will be a decent addition and also it will be less expensive
 
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what about AN TPQ-36/37. indian army dont have the edge. They are not close to us and the border consists of plain area. so it will be a decent addition and also it will be less expensive

but arsalan has already mentioned that PA operates these firefinders...I was suggesting a complementary role for EQ-36
 
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