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England humiliate India with 10-wicket win

lou ji looking like another defeat on the cards for india

Eng with a lead of 194 runs with 4 wickets still in hand and two more days to go ...

In first session my guess is a lead of ~ 70-80 runs more with prior and swann batting which will pile up the lead to ~270 and thats a heck of a task ahead for indian batting line up on a pitch that may crumble on late part of 4th day
 
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Looks like Pakistani members are more worried over India's defeat than Indian members :lol:

Aunty, Don't stop images & videos pls, let's make it a Images & videos thread :)
 
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ha ha ha ha ha this is fun to watch. Dhoni and Srinavasan gang's friends and family policy does not seem to be working. Deserving players are denied and useless a$$kissers and friends are selected.

Dhoni has showed himself to be an incredibly corrupt person. Players like Raina, Murali Vijay, Badrinath, Abhinav Mukund have played tests under him just because of their chennai connection (and failed) but players with much better first class average than any of these - Rahane and Tiwary have been denied their deserving chance.

Interesting isn't it, that Yuvraj is playing his 40th test averaging only 34, but Kambli averaging 54 played his last and 17th test when he was 23 years old :)
 
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bad batting by eng this morning, added just 14 runs n lost 4 wickets, lead by 207 runs
 
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ha ha ha ha ha this is fun to watch. Dhoni and Srinavasan gang's friends and family policy does not seem to be working. Deserving players are denied and useless a$$kissers and friends are selected.

Dhoni has showed himself to be an incredibly corrupt person. Players like Raina, Murali Vijay, Badrinath, Abhinav Mukund have played tests under him just because of their chennai connection (and failed) but players with much better first class average than any of these - Rahane and Tiwary have been denied their deserving chance.

Interesting isn't it, that Yuvraj is playing his 40th test averaging only 34, but Kambli averaging 54 played his last and 17th test when he was 23 years old :)

Dhoni was never a test-captain material IMHO.
 
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India's year of Denial.

We have seen in the last three Tests matches and even in England, there was a lot of grass and that helped their seamers. Once these people come to India we should not be hesitant in making turners, and that's where we would get to know whether they are mentally strong, and [what happens to] the kind of chit chat do they do when we go overseas and they talk about our techniques."
- Gautam Gambhir, January 22, 2012, Perth

Two days after India had lost by an innings inside three days at the WACA ground.

"We also won 2-0 in India."
- Virender Sehwag, January 28, 2012, Adelaide

Third day of the Adelaide Test, when a second whitewash in two away series was imminent.

"Why not [turning pitches]? We were given flattest of tracks during practice matches in England and Australia, and then suddenly presented with a green-top during the Tests. During practice matches, we would face those 120kmph bowlers …If they wanted to be fair to us, they could have provided us with same kind of tracks for practice matches, like what were used in Tests. Especially, when they knew that visiting teams get very less time to practice. Now they would be playing on turning tracks and definitely would know where they stand."
- Virat Kohli, October 27, 2012

Justifying the tactic of not letting England face any spin in the tour games before the start of the Test series, in the process imagining "green tops" in Australia and England

"We also need to consider that immediately after that series when England came to India, we beat them 5-0, which cannot be forgotten."
- Sachin Tendulkar, November 8, 2012

Before the start of this Test series, drawing comfort from an ODI series win last year

"One has to recognise the advantage of home conditions, and this applies across the board. So I don't think we should run down our players by saying we did not do well abroad. Other teams don't do well when they come to India. In England, except Rahul, the batting did not click. But in both England and Australia, we had super-fast pitches."
- N Srinivasan, December 4, 2012

Asking people to not say "we did not do well abroad"

"So what if we have lost a home Test? Not as if we have never won at home… It's not that we have lost the series."
- Gautam Gambhir, November 29, 2012

After the defeat in Mumbai when everything - pitch, toss, first-innings runs - was in their favour

"If you look at the records at this ground, India have played really well. The way the wicket is playing, I am confident our guys will do really well."
- Pragyan Ojha, today, Eden Gardens

After India have conceded a 193-run lead by end of day three with four wickets still in England's hand

Also today, Joe Dawes, India's bowling coach, told - well, who else - the BCCI in an interview that Zaheer Khan is one of the best six bowlers in the world, that Indian bowling is headed in the right direction, that he has begun the process of achieving the aim of developing a group of seven to eight fast bowlers who can be called upon any time. You can accuse the BCCI of many things, but it doesn't lack humour, as is evident through the timing of this piece.

One of these days, India will admit they have become an ordinary side. That currently they are arguably the worst bowling unit in the world, bar Bangladesh. That they are the worst fielding side in the world without any argument, which they kept on proving on the third day as Ishant Sharma dropped his third simple return catch in the fourth match he is playing this year. That the whitewashes in England and Australia didn't happen on doctored green tops. That a proud home record alone doesn't ensure future Test wins. That the ideal response to overseas batting failures is to work on techniques, and not to seek comfort in statistics at home. That no side won an away series with that kind of attitude.

When India admit that, they will start improving as a Test side. Until then, they can hope for a miracle to the tune of Kolkata 2000-01.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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© ESPN EMEA Ltd.
 
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^^^^good one, its interesting how they kept on twisting the facts instead of humiliating defeats .... Thats where professionalism comes in ...if it would have been aus or SA they would have come up and said we didnt play good cricket..dats it...no justification for such pathetic and humiliating defeats ...you need to step up and accept you played poorly thats when you will work on your weaknesses and improve and if you are not even willing to accept your mistakes than heck you are dead


I was surprised that how even kapil dave was pampering at the end of the 4th day ,when he was saying england has spread the field and ashwin has won from england lol

with lead of just under 10 at that time

Its obvious that out of 11 atleast 1 batsman will perform relatively better coz all 11 can't fail so miserably at the same time atleast not too often ....even if ashwin would have been a tail ender the words may have been justified portraying the commitment but we know ashwin can bat he has a first class avg of 37 while in international test matches he has scored a century

Egos gonna burst
 
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Reconfirmation of the end of a golden run for India - decline started almost 2 years ago and defeat in home series confirms it. Tendulkar need to retire. Gambhir should be thrown out. Bring in Manoj Tiwari, Ravindra Jadeja and start rebuilding the team. Remove overhyped Dhoni from captaincy - he is not a captain material for test matches.
 
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ha ha ha ha ha this is fun to watch. Dhoni and Srinavasan gang's friends and family policy does not seem to be working. Deserving players are denied and useless a$$kissers and friends are selected.

Dhoni has showed himself to be an incredibly corrupt person. Players like Raina, Murali Vijay, Badrinath, Abhinav Mukund have played tests under him just because of their chennai connection (and failed) but players with much better first class average than any of these - Rahane and Tiwary have been denied their deserving chance.

Interesting isn't it, that Yuvraj is playing his 40th test averaging only 34, but Kambli averaging 54 played his last and 17th test when he was 23 years old :)

Can u say me when Badri was given chance and he failed? In his debut he made 56 against a red hot South Africa in Ahmedabad. He just played a test after that.
He is ready made for Test Cricket.
players like Rohit, Dinesh Kartik and Jadeja have played for 80 60 and 50 ODI respectively, yet they are continued to given chances.
Dhoni is discriminated against Badri and in this circumstances we need his services more than ever.

And Dhoni, whatever Pitches u give him, he will continue to fail. He is such a Pathetic.

Reconfirmation of the end of a golden run for India - decline started almost 2 years ago and defeat in home series confirms it. Tendulkar need to retire. Gambhir should be thrown out. Bring in Manoj Tiwari, Ravindra Jadeja and start rebuilding the team. Remove overhyped Dhoni from captaincy - he is not a captain material for test matches.

Bring in Tiwary. But not Jadeja.
 
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India should bring in Rahane. The guy has a very healthy record in FC and deserves to be in the Indian team more than someone like Yuvraj. Yuvraj simply doesn't belong to test Cricket. Also Tendu should retire. There is no point of sticking with the team if you can't help it to at least draw a test even on the home ground.
 
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When someone scores couple of triple hundreds in a period of a month and have been consistent otherwise as well, treat it on merit and give him a chance.

The last time chance was given, he had compiled a triple hundread that time. But he was again a failure. He has age and time. We should not rush him into test now.
Let im prove himself in ODI, and then in test.
 
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