Engage Pakistan on Lakhvi: RAW.

[Qasibr]

You wrote that a person cant hold a 50 rooms.Fyi,

1)they were randomly moving from one floor to other floor just to confuse the police or forces...

Man that makes no sense at all. You're even more vulnerable when you're moving, snipers can easily snipe you off as you're moving from room-to-room. It makes absolutely NO sense that the building could not be taken for a week. Terrorists couldn't constantly move day-and-night for 7 days. They did eventually storm the place, and they did it easily, because the building was very big for the terrorists to cover.

They should not have waited a week, while the terrorists were executing hostages. This week-long delay was inexcusable. Why did they do that, they should be held answerable. Innocent civilians lost lives.

 

[Doctor09]

Evidences ?
in these days everyone forgot the RAW so RAW decided to go for cheap publicity stunt ..... nothing give them more publicity than talking against Pakistan .......
which internet connection Lakhvi using in Adiyala jail ? EVO or WATEEN ?

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

I wonder why do we put with such scum and not eliminate them by using some contract killers.

 

[pmukherjee]

Sounds bs to me!

Why would they give him a laptop in jail? maybe a smuggled cell phone!
Also if GoP helped him why would they put him in jail? adiala is the most notorious one too.
Not to forget the interceptin mail crap... dnt believe it!

Ummmm. I wouldn't say that buddy. We have known criminals and underworld dons to be in possession of mobile phones while in high security jails here in India. These jokers have been actively conducting business while inside their prison cells. Many such cases have come to light. I am sure that there have been more cases which have not been reported. Each time the $hit hits the fan in the media, the jail warden gets suspended and an inquiry is ordered, nothing more is ever heard of these cases again. Here we are talking of some of the most dreaded terrorists in the world. On top of it, these guys enjoy a lot of local support in Pakistan as there are many who call them 'freedom fighters'. Under such circumstances, I would not really deem it impossible for them to be in possession of high end mobile phones which are wifi enabled. Laptops are not needed for sending e-mails.

Once we have the voiceprint of Mr Lakhvi, which we have, it is impossible for him to avoid detection (short of vocal chord surgery). Once he speaks and his voice is transmitted over radio waves he will be detected especially if he makes long transmissions. Remember, once his voiceprint is identified, the IP address of his mobile he uses will be known and every e-mail or IM he sends can be intercepted. We do have the capability for voiceprint search and analysis.

Why should the GOP help him? There are local forces at work here. The GOP would have nothing to do with this.

 

[pmukherjee]

Evidences ?
in these days everyone forgot the RAW so RAW decided to go for cheap publicity stunt ..... nothing give them more publicity than talking against Pakistan .......
which internet connection Lakhvi using in Adiyala jail ? EVO or WATEEN ?

Come on Doc, you can do better than that. The RAW did not seek any publicity. Organisations like the RAW or ISI do not seek publicity, it is counterproductive. The article is about the RAW giving certain inputs to the GOI which some a$$ has leaked to the media.

 

[Vinod2070]

That's the pathetic mindset that tries to deny the reality even after the facts have been proved.

Even after Kasab has been proved to be a Pakistani and Pakistan is running the sham of an investigation and prosecution, some people in permanent denial can't bring themselves above raising useless bogeys like "occupying 300 rooms"!

Those fil,th didn't have to occupy rooms, they just were shooting randomly at innocent civilians.

A handful terrorists have attacked their own GCHQ, SSG, ISI, foreign cricket teams, naval HQ in Mehran and much more. They still can't understand how terrorists scum works.

But there is always an explanation.

You know there is an excellent piece by a Pakistani writer that describes this behavior perfectly.

Psychologists say that even hard facts can be denied when people subscribe to a radically different vision of the world. A glimpse of the current Pakistani weltanschauung — the mental makeup which selects and filters facts before they reach the conscious brain — can be had through the lives of the three young US-educated Pakistanis mentioned above.

Why do they pick on us Pakistanis? – The Express Tribune

So while one may marvel at how people can ignore facts staring in the face, there is actually a psychological explanation for this mental makeup, however bizarre.

 

[crimemaster_gogo]

The barbaric sand dwellers beleive that they can fool everybody??we r not in 700ad dude.. If it sounds bs to u then give us voice samples of lakhvi,and we both will sit together and get them matched with the taped conversations..n btw one doesnot need laptop to send and receive mails a 1000 rs phone can do it..

that's all fine! you do your job of finding clues and interlinking them, so if RAW knew about the emails then why no action yet ? is Indian diplomatic clout so small ? why ain't we able to bring the pakistani culprits under international justice ? leave all that ! where you were when you had got early warning of Mumbai attacks from Americans? just don't know whom to believe.

 

[Doctor09]

Come on Doc, you can do better than that. The RAW did not seek any publicity. Organisations like the RAW or ISI do not seek publicity, it is counterproductive. The article is about the RAW giving certain inputs to the GOI which some a$$ has leaked to the media.

every agency want to degrade its rival agency by any means so RAW is doing ..... these type of news is intentionally leaked and you know these days USA is blaming ISI and RAW surely thought that chalu behti ganga mein hum b hath dho laitay hain

 

[Qasibr]

The debate isn't whether Raw was seeking publicity for it's activities. The point is whether they can provide solid logical answers that arise in this incident.

WHY were they sitting on their @$$ for a week before doing anything, half-dozen terrorists in a 300-room building, they eventually routed them after a week - they could have done it before the terrorists were executing those hostages.

WHY did they hand Pakistan a list of terrorists that were in jail inside India when the Mumbai incident occured? In such a serious matter where innocent civilians had lost lives, why were they playing like that - if they had real evidence, they should had brought it forth. Why embarrass India internationally when the ISI scrutinized the list and showed that the terrorists had been in jail for YEARS.

India claimed it had air-tight evidence that the people on the list were involved in the attacks. It was all a bunch of made-up BS.
BBC News - India's "Most-Wanted" List Embarrasses Government
Paklink - Seriousness of Indian terrorist List Given to Pakistan
OneIndia.in - Pakistan Blows a Slap on India: 'Wanted Terrorists' List Rejected
Express Tribune - Second goof-up in India's 'most wanted' List

I have yet to hear any logical evidence from any Indian answering these points. It is obvious that their government pulled a false-flag operation killing their own, to frame the enemy. And it's an old tactic, something always happens to India which gives them an excuse to come to the Pak border at times when Pakistan is going through difficult times, like in 2001-2 when USA wanted to attack Afg, India pulls a stunt on it's parliament, their army's on the border. Soviets sitting in neighboring Afg, Indians again use that opportunity to line up on the border.

InfoWars - Mumbai False-Flag Attack update

 

[MrIndianSikh]

^^^^ this is what too much of listening to Zaid Hamid does to you why the hell would we kill hundreds of our own? that is retarded to say the least answer me this if it was a false flag operation as you claim how come french journalists reached and questioned Qasab's parents and even your own gov't admitted to Kassab being a Pakistani?

 

[Bl[i]tZ]

Watch it and educate yourself!

It was aired on HBO!

 

[Qasibr]

@MrIndian Wow man, so you mean the BBC is now listening to Zaid Hamid@!? Because the links I posted were from numerous International sources including the BBC. And they all question various things about the Mumbai attack, like the fake list of terrorists India accused of staging the Mumbai attacks(those folks turned out to be in jail, had been for years).

One local TV channel arranged that interview with Kassab's parents, another TV channel did an investigation and made a documentary about the parents being actors, with neighbors and townsfolk agreeing they did not know these people. Our government would admit to being the Loch Ness monster if you dangle some money in front of them - unlike India, we do not defend these soiled politicians. The government you talk of, did not come to power with the wishes of the country, and are massively unpopular due to their corrupt practices. The head of the government, who's unofficial wealth makes him one of the richest people in the world, also admitted to be suffering from dementia in order to escape criminal court proceedings in Switzerland.

That does not change the fact that India has many many loose holes in it's official version of the Mumbai narrative. Why are they lying, innocent people lost lives why are they providing ridiculous evidence, like fake lists of terrorists. Like sitting around waiting for a week before storming the hotel, while hostages were executed.

@blitz Long video, doesn't cover any of the points the BBC and other sources' links I posted question.

 

[MrIndianSikh]

@MrIndian Wow man, so you mean the BBC is now listening to Zaid Hamid@!? Because the links I posted were from numerous International sources including the BBC. And they all question various things about the Mumbai attack, like the fake list of terrorists India accused of staging the Mumbai attacks(those folks turned out to be in jail, had been for years).

One local TV channel arranged that interview with Kassab's parents, another TV channel did an investigation and made a documentary about the parents being actors, with neighbors and townsfolk agreeing they did not know these people. Our government would admit to being the Loch Ness monster if you dangle some money in front of them - unlike India, we do not defend these soiled politicians. The government you talk of, did not come to power with the wishes of the country, and are massively unpopular due to their corrupt practices. The head of the government, who's unofficial wealth makes him one of the richest people in the world, also admitted to be suffering from dementia in order to escape criminal court proceedings in Switzerland.

That does not change the fact that India has many many loose holes in it's official version of the Mumbai narrative. Why are they lying, innocent people lost lives why are they providing ridiculous evidence, like fake lists of terrorists. Like sitting around waiting for a week before storming the hotel, while hostages were executed.

@blitz Long video, doesn't cover any of the points the BBC and other sources' links I posted question.

the fake list did not pertain to Mumbai next your going to claim zionists planned out 9/11 you lack any solid proof that backs up the ridiculous claim that the Mumbai attacks were carried out by us just to make you look bad why would we need to do that when America is already doing that? OBL raid ring a bell?

you can hate your politicians and gov't all you want but its your military that runs the show and i doubt we bribed anyone to state the obvious besides you have a source of this? or is this another one of your fairy tale claims?

 

[Qasibr]

You do read English don't you? Here are all the sources, AGAIN:

BBC News - India's "Most-Wanted" List Embarrasses Government
Paklink - Seriousness of Indian terrorist List Given to Pakistan
OneIndia.in - Pakistan Blows a Slap on India: 'Wanted Terrorists' List Rejected
Express Tribune - Second goof-up in India's 'most wanted' List
InfoWars - Mumbai False-Flag Attack update

Given all the links, I can't believe how you can possibly claim something as bizarre as saying the FAKE list India cooked up, was not related to the Mumbai attack. That was exactly what it was for - read the links above, if you can indeed read.

 

[MrIndianSikh]

You do read English don't you? Here are all the sources, AGAIN:

BBC News - India's "Most-Wanted" List Embarrasses Government
Paklink - Seriousness of Indian terrorist List Given to Pakistan
OneIndia.in - Pakistan Blows a Slap on India: 'Wanted Terrorists' List Rejected
Express Tribune - Second goof-up in India's 'most wanted' List
InfoWars - Mumbai False-Flag Attack update

Given all the links, I can't believe how you can possibly claim something as bizarre as saying the FAKE list India cooked up, was not related to the Mumbai attack. That was exactly what it was for - read the links above, if you can indeed read.

what headley said in court along with your gov't puts all this crap to the toilet
http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect...-gunmans-identity-established-as-pakistani-ss

Pakistan Backtracks on Link to Mumbai Attacks - NYTimes.com

that list of terrorists we gave you is not related to Mumbai maybe a few of the planners who we had named are on that list but headley and Kasab have already revealed those directly responsible

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You do read English don't you? Here are all the sources, AGAIN:

BBC News - India's "Most-Wanted" List Embarrasses Government
Paklink - Seriousness of Indian terrorist List Given to Pakistan
OneIndia.in - Pakistan Blows a Slap on India: 'Wanted Terrorists' List Rejected
Express Tribune - Second goof-up in India's 'most wanted' List
InfoWars - Mumbai False-Flag Attack update

Given all the links, I can't believe how you can possibly claim something as bizarre as saying the FAKE list India cooked up, was not related to the Mumbai attack. That was exactly what it was for - read the links above, if you can indeed read.

what headley said in court along with your gov't puts all this crap to the toilet
http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect...-gunmans-identity-established-as-pakistani-ss

Pakistan Backtracks on Link to Mumbai Attacks - NYTimes.com

that list of terrorists we gave you is not related to Mumbai maybe a few of the planners who we had named are on that list but headley and Kasab have already revealed those directly responsible