Egyptian Armed Forces

[Ghostkiller]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1-JdWGbfIlXSbFk3jOz00w/community?lb=UgkxErM1_T_5poym-GERcBfdvsyJpHNZh8Sg

One of the wonderful Serbian products that we hope to obtain the right to manufacture locally and work in the Egyptian Air Force

The SAGR missile is a tactical missile launched from the air, land and sea, guided by semi-active laser beams, with a range of 40 km if launched from the air at an altitude of 7 km. It is equipped with a 20 kg warhead.
It can be launched from fighters, helicopters and support aircraft, and its maximum weight is 67 kg
The UAE obtained the right to manufacture the missile

Also, the light winged bomb PGB-128 has a weight of 30 kg, a warhead of 20 kg, inertial guidance, satellite navigation and an IIR thermal seeker, and it has a very small margin of error estimated at only one and a half meters and a range of 25 km that can be launched from helicopters, drones and fighters
Saudi Arabia obtained the right to manufacture the bomb and incorporated it into its combat drones.

It would be wonderful if we got ToT for our drones and aircrafts like MIG SU Mirage and maybe F-16 Rafales.

Serbia will be also our heaven gate for ToT so to boost our defence industry.

 

[The SC]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1-JdWGbfIlXSbFk3jOz00w/community?lb=UgkxErM1_T_5poym-GERcBfdvsyJpHNZh8Sg

One of the wonderful Serbian products that we hope to obtain the right to manufacture locally and work in the Egyptian Air Force

The SAGR missile is a tactical missile launched from the air, land and sea, guided by semi-active laser beams, with a range of 40 km if launched from the air at an altitude of 7 km. It is equipped with a 20 kg warhead.
It can be launched from fighters, helicopters and support aircraft, and its maximum weight is 67 kg
The UAE obtained the right to manufacture the missile

Also, the light winged bomb PGB-128 has a weight of 30 kg, a warhead of 20 kg, inertial guidance, satellite navigation and an IIR thermal seeker, and it has a very small margin of error estimated at only one and a half meters and a range of 25 km that can be launched from helicopters, drones and fighters
Saudi Arabia obtained the right to manufacture the bomb and incorporated it into its combat drones.

It would be wonderful if we got ToT for our drones and aircrafts like MIG SU Mirage and maybe F-16 Rafales.

Serbia will be also our heaven gate for ToT so to boost our defence industry.

Serbia has already opened the Ali baba cave with ToT for Egypt.. Check the Thread of the cooperation on all military ..and now even civilian fields..

 

[Ghostkiller]

Serbia has already opened the Ali baba cave with ToT for Egypt.. Check the Thread of the cooperation on all military ..and now even civilian fields..

Ik but now it is getting more official. Our president saw some of their products etc...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1363944593704833026

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So I am sure then there is alreayd cooperation since 1,5 year ago

 

[Gomig-21]

Meteor was signed in the two deals of Rafale.. be patient guys.. we heard so much criticism and negative talk all over the place about the Scalp.. and it ended up in the Egyptian inventory..

SC, my bro, you know I love you to death, right? I'd jump off a bridge into freezing water for you, you know that. But let's really take a close look at this situation because of several important factors that make me respectfully disagree completely with you.

1) We have no idea what the weapons are in either of the contracts except for what we've seen in pictures for the first batch. We saw the MICA IR, EM, AASM HAMMERs in the 250kg & 500kg and the SCALPs. There was none of that mentioned in any of the official Dassault media releases whatsoever. As a matter of fact, they don't list any weapons anyway, only the number of aircraft and not even type such as F3-R or F4 etc. We already went through that, but my point is that nothing regarding weapons in any of the contracts has been officially released to the public. So we have no idea what is included until we see them, which brings me to point #2.

2) The IAF received 200 MICA-IR and 1000 MICA-RF as well as both size AASM HAMMERs AND Meteor missiles AHEAD of their 1st delivery of the 1st batch of 3 rafale fighters! We saw the pics. Ahead of the aircraft they got all those weapons and the reason they ordered so many MICA RFs was because they had already agreed with Dassault & MBDA to allow them to integrate those missiles on their Su-30MKIs. Point is, they got their weapons including meteors before even getting any of the aircraft.

The same happened with Greece and the Hellenic Air Force. The transfer of the first 3 rafales from L'armee de L'air's inventory arrived in Athens which included MICA IR, ER, both HAMMERs, SCALPs AND METEORS! So our Greek brothers are all set which is a wonderful thing, of course.

Now, as of June 2021, the gas and sand state (talk about no redeeming qualities courtesy of the clown Joe Biden referring to the great kingdom of Saudiya that two-bit moron when we know that state is the one with absolutely nothing worthy of redeeming qualities and couldn't even lick Saudi Arabia's toe lint as far as being worthy) suddenly get meteor missiles for their Rafales? Really?

You said patience, and that is a beautiful redeeming quality from you. But let me at least ask, how do we sit and be patient when not only do we not have any conclusive information on any of the contracts, and most of all, India (IAF), Greece (HAF) and now the G&S state Qatar all received the meteor missiles while the great EAF, the 1st to order the Rafale and open the door wide open for Dassault and new customers once they saw how great the EAF was operating the aircraft came rushing to order the fighter in droves! And we're yet to see a single meteor in Egypt but Qatar gets them? How could we possibly be patient under all these obvious and negative circumstances? It's impossible. They should've been FIRST in EAF inventory before anyone else, let alone the gas and sand state!?!?! Really, Dassault & MBDA?

Given these circumstances, it's impossible to think they will ever arrive with the Rafales and they need to start pushing the Italians to GUARANTEE the acquisition of the meteors WITH the immediate first delivery of the Typhoons and follow that immediately by ending any more future purchases from Dassault. Then go with more Typhoons and Sukhois + MiGs. Because getting treated like this is worst than the way a 2-dollar hooker in Piccadilly Square gets treated. An absolute disgrace that the gas and sand state, unworthy of any viable partnership value except their $$$$$ should even get a glimpse at that missile before the EAF. Shame on Dassault and MBDA and France.

I don't want to see a single Typhoon show up anywhere near the north coast of Egypt without it being packed with at least 4 meteors each. Otherwise they don't go near them and forget about getting the aircraft first and then expect to wait for the missiles at a later date. That crap ain't working for this kid anymore and I really hope the EAF grows some you know what and lay down the law. Stop being passive to these mega corporations that will milk them like they have. It's a disgrace!

Oh, and that quote from @sami_1 about the meteors are going to be coming to Egypt slowly, with the first batch being small and then slowly, slowly they'll start coming etc. WHUUUUUUT?! Seriously!? Who the heck ever came out with that huge load of steaming poop?! Someone please tell me lmaoooooo! That sounds much more like wishful compromising that anything remotely close to reality lololol. Sorry, sami, not laughing at you but at that "made-up theory."

 

[The SC]

SC, my bro, you know I love you to death, right? I'd jump off a bridge into freezing water for you, you know that. But let's really take a close look at this situation because of several important factors that make me respectfully disagree completely with you.

1) We have no idea what the weapons are in either of the contracts except for what we've seen in pictures for the first batch. We saw the MICA IR, EM, AASM HAMMERs in the 250kg & 500kg and the SCALPs. There was none of that mentioned in any of the official Dassault media releases whatsoever. As a matter of fact, they don't list any weapons anyway, only the number of aircraft and not even type such as F3-R or F4 etc. We already went through that, but my point is that nothing regarding weapons in any of the contracts has been officially released to the public. So we have no idea what is included until we see them, which brings me to point #2.

2) The IAF received 200 MICA-IR and 1000 MICA-RF as well as both size AASM HAMMERs AND Meteor missiles AHEAD of their 1st delivery of the 1st batch of 3 rafale fighters! We saw the pics. Ahead of the aircraft they got all those weapons and the reason they ordered so many MICA RFs was because they had already agreed with Dassault & MBDA to allow them to integrate those missiles on their Su-30MKIs. Point is, they got their weapons including meteors before even getting any of the aircraft.

The same happened with Greece and the Hellenic Air Force. The transfer of the first 3 rafales from L'armee de L'air's inventory arrived in Athens which included MICA IR, ER, both HAMMERs, SCALPs AND METEORS! So our Greek brothers are all set which is a wonderful thing, of course.

Now, as of June 2021, the gas and sand state (talk about no redeeming qualities courtesy of the clown Joe Biden referring to the great kingdom of Saudiya that two-bit moron when we know that state is the one with absolutely nothing worthy of redeeming qualities and couldn't even lick Saudi Arabia's toe lint as far as being worthy) suddenly get meteor missiles for their Rafales? Really?

You said patience, and that is a beautiful redeeming quality from you. But let me at least ask, how do we sit and be patient when not only do we not have any conclusive information on any of the contracts, and most of all, India (IAF), Greece (HAF) and now the G&S state Qatar all received the meteor missiles while the great EAF, the 1st to order the Rafale and open the door wide open for Dassault and new customers once they saw how great the EAF was operating the aircraft came rushing to order the fighter in droves! And we're yet to see a single meteor in Egypt but Qatar gets them? How could we possibly be patient under all these obvious and negative circumstances? It's impossible. They should've been FIRST in EAF inventory before anyone else, let alone the gas and sand state!?!?! Really, Dassault & MBDA?

Given these circumstances, it's impossible to think they will ever arrive with the Rafales and they need to start pushing the Italians to GUARANTEE the acquisition of the meteors WITH the immediate first delivery of the Typhoons and follow that immediately by ending any more future purchases from Dassault. Then go with more Typhoons and Sukhois + MiGs. Because getting treated like this is worst than the way a 2-dollar hooker in Piccadilly Square gets treated. An absolute disgrace that the gas and sand state, unworthy of any viable partnership value except their $$$$$ should even get a glimpse at that missile before the EAF. Shame on Dassault and MBDA and France.

I don't want to see a single Typhoon show up anywhere near the north coast of Egypt without it being packed with at least 4 meteors each. Otherwise they don't go near them and forget about getting the aircraft first and then expect to wait for the missiles at a later date. That crap ain't working for this kid anymore and I really hope the EAF grows some you know what and lay down the law. Stop being passive to these mega corporations that will milk them like they have. It's a disgrace!

Oh, and that quote from @sami_1 about the meteors are going to be coming to Egypt slowly, with the first batch being small and then slowly, slowly they'll start coming etc. WHUUUUUUT?! Seriously!? Who the heck ever came out with that huge load of steaming poop?! Someone please tell me lmaoooooo! That sounds much more like wishful compromising that anything remotely close to reality lololol. Sorry, sami, not laughing at you but at that "made-up theory."

I'm laughing at the whore metaphor..

"Egypt had requested the Meteor and Scalp missiles as part of a 2015 order worth €5.2 billion ($6.3 billion) for 24 Rafale fighter jets, with an option for 12 more units."

https://sldinfo.com/2021/03/france-and-the-sale-of-rafale-to-egypt-sans-meteor/

Let's not talk about India and Greece.. their context is different than Egypt.. just remembering the time it took the Egyptian Army to show the TOR air defense system in public!.. if I remember well it was 4 to 6 years after purchase and operation.. The Meteor is an even worst case for Usrael.. it is a no no..but it has no real leverage on France who had confronted the US head on for the Scalps to Egypt..

Egypt does not want to make anyone angry or paranoid in the region.. but it has its own interests to look after.. let's say.. smoothly.. as you know how diplomatic president Sisi is..

 

[joker88]

Increasing the number of the additional contract to 30 fighters was the basis for contracting Meteor and Scalp in an additional deal with a huge stockpile.
Ammunition deals will not announce the numbers but will announce the value

Mbda in salute nel 2021. Mariani: 4,2 mld di ricavi, nel 2022 puntiamo a superare i 5 mld. Fusaro crescerà ancora - Ildenaro.it

Incontro con la stampa di Lorenzo Mariani, executive group sales & business development director di Mbda e managing director di Mbda Italia.

www.ildenaro.it

 

[Ghostkiller]

Increasing the number of the additional contract to 30 fighters was the basis for contracting Meteor and Scalp in an additional deal with a huge stockpile.
Ammunition deals will not announce the numbers but will announce the value

Mbda in salute nel 2021. Mariani: 4,2 mld di ricavi, nel 2022 puntiamo a superare i 5 mld. Fusaro crescerà ancora - Ildenaro.it

Incontro con la stampa di Lorenzo Mariani, executive group sales & business development director di Mbda e managing director di Mbda Italia.

www.ildenaro.it

In this link, he doesn't say that Egypt will have the Meteor missile directly.

 

[Ghostkiller]

 

[joker88]

In this link, he doesn't say that Egypt will have the Meteor missile directly.

Nor are the types of ammunition that were requested. This is the army’s policy of non-disclosure

 

[Gomig-21]

Egypt had requested the Meteor and Scalp missiles as part of a 2015 order worth €5.2 billion ($6.3 billion) for 24 Rafale fighter jets, with an option for 12 more units."

https://sldinfo.com/2021/03/france-and-the-sale-of-rafale-to-egypt-sans-meteor/

Bro, you realize that "sans" is a French word for "without", right? Without meteors is what that article is saying. I linked that same article when we were previously talking about this topic.

Look at the rubbish that is written in that article, ma man.

"Paris – France withheld the sale of the Meteor long-range, air-to-air missile to Egypt in response to a request from Israel, an arms specialist said."

"A French arms sale in the foreign market requires approval from an interministerial committee, the commission interministérielle pour l’étude des exportations de matériels de guerre (CIEEMG). Any deal calls for a green light from the foreign ministry on the Quai d’Orsay."

"An Egyptian Rafale fighter, armed with a Meteor missile, designed to hit targets beyond visual range, would “destabilize completely the forces,” a second arms specialist said. Israel would say no to that."

Do you see the last line in that last quote?! Lmaoooo the audacity of these people and the woosifying of MBDA or Dassault so called "specialists" or whomever made those comment, as if they're scared of them. Ridiculous!

Let's not talk about India and Greece.. their context is different than Egypt..

Why not, bro? That's the whole point is to compare how all the other recipients received the missiles immediately while the EAF hasn't. Especially India since it hasn't singed the CISMOA and Egypt has. So there is a valid comparison to make based on those two situations.

just remembering the time it took the Egyptian Army to show the TOR air defense system in public!.. if I remember well it was 4 to 6 years after purchase and operation.. The Meteor is an even worst case for Usrael.. it is a no no..but it has no real leverage on France who had confronted the US head on for the Scalps to Egypt..

Are you suggesting the missiles are already in stock with the EAF but they're just not showing them like they did with the BUK & TOR? Russian equipment is one thing, western equipment is much easier to find info as well as being revealed. A good example of that would be the German IRIS-T-SL SAM system. The EGY Army most certainly kept a lid on that but the Germans announced it immediately. I would say the Russian SAMs are somewhat different circumstances.

Egypt does not want to make anyone angry or paranoid in the region.. but it has its own interests to look after.. let's say.. smoothly.. as you know how diplomatic president Sisi is..

Seeing the Meteors on the sand & gas jets is an absolute dagger in the heart of the EAF. Believe me, nothing is more evident that there is some attempt at preventing those missiles from coming to Egypt than seeing them on lousy Qatari jets! Ooof, irritation royale!

The only other possibility that barely gives an absolute minimal possibility of hope is that the current rafales still haven't been upgraded to F3-R to support the meteor. If they have been upgraded, then it plain sucks and they're obviously refusing to supply them.

 

[The SC]

Bro, you realize that "sans" is a French word for "without", right? Without meteors is what that article is saying. I linked that same article when we were previously talking about this topic.

Look at the rubbish that is written in that article, ma man.

"Paris – France withheld the sale of the Meteor long-range, air-to-air missile to Egypt in response to a request from Israel, an arms specialist said."

"A French arms sale in the foreign market requires approval from an interministerial committee, the commission interministérielle pour l’étude des exportations de matériels de guerre (CIEEMG). Any deal calls for a green light from the foreign ministry on the Quai d’Orsay."

"An Egyptian Rafale fighter, armed with a Meteor missile, designed to hit targets beyond visual range, would “destabilize completely the forces,” a second arms specialist said. Israel would say no to that."

Do you see the last line in that last quote?! Lmaoooo the audacity of these people and the woosifying of MBDA or Dassault so called "specialists" or whomever made those comment, as if they're scared of them. Ridiculous!



Why not, bro? That's the whole point is to compare how all the other recipients received the missiles immediately while the EAF hasn't. Especially India since it hasn't singed the CISMOA and Egypt has. So there is a valid comparison to make based on those two situations.



Are you suggesting the missiles are already in stock with the EAF but they're just not showing them like they did with the BUK & TOR? Russian equipment is one thing, western equipment is much easier to find info as well as being revealed. A good example of that would be the German IRIS-T-SL SAM system. The EGY Army most certainly kept a lid on that but the Germans announced it immediately. I would say the Russian SAMs are somewhat different circumstances.



Seeing the Meteors on the sand & gas jets is an absolute dagger in the heart of the EAF. Believe me, nothing is more evident that there is some attempt at preventing those missiles from coming to Egypt than seeing them on lousy Qatari jets! Ooof, irritation royale!

The only other possibility that barely gives an absolute minimal possibility of hope is that the current rafales still haven't been upgraded to F3-R to support the meteor. If they have been upgraded, then it plain sucks and they're obviously refusing to supply them.

We didn't see the so called "military experts" opinions..when there were genuine problems with the Scalp's US components..we saw governments announcing it..

 

[Gomig-21]

In this link, he doesn't say that Egypt will have the Meteor missile directly.

That's exactly right. Even if the EAF has its own policy that it doesn't like to reveal certain weapons or equipment for whatever reasons, that policy works only with Russia since they don't mind keeping things on the hush-hush because they're sanctioned up the wazoo. But western outfits, from the US to any and all European ones will always put out some form of release indicating a sale of their weapons or equipment. You even go to Wiki and see the Gas & Sand state listed as a current operator of the Meteor! How disgusting is that?!

Just by virtue of all the money and equipment Egypt has spent & bought from France, between the 54 Rafales, 2 Mistral helicopter & LHD carriers, a super expensive and over-priced FREMM Aquitaine frigate, 4 Gowing corvettes, all the MICA ship-to-air missiles for the MEKOs and supposedly the 2 A330 MRTT tankers from (Airbus which is primarily a French company once you get past all the European conglomeration confusion) Egypt has spent a tremendous amount of money buying all that and deserves much more respect. Am I forgetting anything else?

Not to mention the fact that being the first purchaser and operator of the Rafale helped immediately boost that fighter's reputation around the entire world and help increase its tremendous sales and contracts it has received. Do they think the UAE would've even come close to the Rafale had it not been for their close observations of it at the hands of EAF pilots? I think Egypt had a lot of influence on that matter.

Then suddenly reviving the Indian contract and Dassault cashing in BIG TIME on the Indian contract? That wasn't the result of the EAF suddenly showing that aircraft flying over the venerable pyramids in full Egyptian style? Most definitely!

Besides all the potential future purchases at stake also, Egypt has obviously invested A LOT in French military equipment and to see the gas and sand state get more respect than us is absolutely enraging and infuriating! Sacre blue cougnont va te fair foutre fils de pute cretin salope connard imbecile degenere quel salaud! lol.

Another look at the exquisite shape and beauty of Su-35SE #9210.

The more & more this despicable meteor situation comes to light, the more antsy I have become to wanting them delivered immediately to shut a lot of people up and to finally see the respect Egypt so richly deserves. All it's been subjected to through decades and decades is ridicule and jealousy and anything possible to discredit it, whether it be the Jews' QME or the lack of trust or human rights! Enough is enough, man.

And it's a shame that it also makes me much less enthusiastic about the possibility of the Eurofighter Typhoon. Many say "we must trust in our military to do the right thing" and that is true to a certain extent, but they also might be put in a position where they're forced to make certain decisions that don't appeal to us fans & civilians. There is no way on this green earth that I would ever want to see any more Rafales or a single Typhoon without the guarantee of the meteor IMMEDIATELY appearing on receipt of BOTH aircraft. Otherwise, end all future contracts and simply invest in Russian technology which they should do anyway.

Saw this shot the other day which shows a great angle of the center fuel tank for the buddy-buddy A2A refueling platform and you can obviously see the chute on the drogue and the interesting shape of that tank. Maybe we'll get to see what the MiG-29M/M2 one looks like someday as well.

 

[Ghostkiller]

Honestly I would wait until new batch of Rafale and if i don't see Meteor missile then I would be 95% sure than France will not give us.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1546168077477466115

Haram begad

 

[Gomig-21]

Haram begad

Aywa tab3an haga khara awi! And some call Egypt a client state subservient to the US and Israel? If that was the case, we would be treated exactly like this hellhole Gas & Sand state, showered with all the latest goodies regardless of their abilities to operate these systems or not.

They did not order their aircraft that much later than Egypt did, but still, they ordered them AFTER Egypt acquired its 24 fighters and then they get the meteor before the EAF? Does that make any sense whatsoever that it somehow implies either Egypt has them and is hiding them (which is ridiculous I'm very sorry to say so and don't mean to offend anyone) or somehow will be getting them at some later date because.......why. exactly? What is the supposed delay for? And how much truth is there in the post by @sami_1 that the meteors will eventually be delivered but slowly for the first batch, then a bit more later for the second batc....WTF!?!? Seriously?!?!?! This stuff is INSANE! It's not that complicated or made up in wishful desires. The writing is on the wall, gentlemen. And the sooner we realize this, the better off we'll be and the lesser the eventual disappointment will be when the hammer falls.

BTW, that qatari dude on that twitter account is so anti-Egypt it oozes out of every single post of his. He retweeted that one tweet from Arab Defense (another useless twitter handle that is full of lies and misinformation) that @ARCH٤R posted here a few weeks ago about the EAF F-16 that crashed near Port Said and Arab Defense posted the tweet saying "likely an EAF Rafale that crashed" and someone, bless him, went after this qatari guy and laid into him about posting false information and that it wasn't a Rafale but an F-16. Either way it's a terrible loss and not that it matters if either aircraft crashes, it's still very sad bad news but the fact that he didn't research the veracity of the information (especially from Arab Defense which is very well knows for misinformation) and just peddled the tweet off almost with a smile because he couldn't wait to let his followers know. Hateful qatari. But this one dude called him out and put him in his place loool it was great. He started crying and got all defensive that someone put him in his place lol.

Forget about his followers, one guy came out and said "why is everyone so excited about this meteor news, it's not like our rafales are downgraded like the Egyptian ones"! You believe that load of steaming dung?! A7a ya gama3aaaaaa we're headed to the nuthouse!

 

[Gomig-21]

Can you repost the strange Sparrow to compare to a normal Sparrow.

Here you go ya basha, sorry it took a little while.