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Egypt crisis: Court to rule on Mubarak release

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Hosni Mubarak has appeared frail in some of his court appearances

An Egyptian court is due to review a petition for the release of deposed President Hosni Mubarak.

Mubarak is facing a retrial for complicity in the deaths of protesters during the 2011 uprising that ended in his removal from power.

However, his lawyer hopes he will be released once cleared of a corruption charge.

Meanwhile, EU foreign ministers are due to decide whether to cut some of its billions of euros in aid to Egypt.

The EU has strongly condemned the military-backed interim government's crackdown on Islamists following the ousting of President Mohammed Morsi last month.

In a separate development, a Egyptian Coptic Church website has been hacked, apparently by Morsi supporters.

The Account Suspended site was suspended after a picture of a group of pro-Morsi demonstrators appeared on its front page, with a text that read: "Nobody will rule Egypt but Islamists, God willing. Christians, [army chief Gen Abdul Fattah] al-Sisi supporters and thugs to hell."

Correspondents say the Church has been at a heart of recent events, with Coptic Pope Tawadros II supporting the overthrow of President Morsi.

Delay expected

Mubarak, 85, was convicted in June 2012 of conspiring in the killing of protesters in 2011 and sentenced to life in jail.

But in January 2013 an appeal against his conviction was upheld and a retrial ordered.

That retrial opened in May but Mubarak has served the maximum amount of pre-trial detention permitted in the case.

Mubarak's lawyer Fareed al-Dib said he expected his client to be freed after a court ordered his release in one of the remaining corruption cases against him.

However, the public prosecution is expected to appeal against the release, potentially delaying his actual departure from the prison for several days.

The case relates to claims that the former president received gifts from state-run publisher Al-Ahram.

Correspondents say his family has paid back the value of the alleged gifts, strengthening his lawyer's confidence that Mubarak will be released.

The appeals court will meet in the prison where Mubarak is being held.

"I will give my defence and if God is willing... there will be no reason for him to be held in temporary detention," Mr Dib told Reuters TV.

Analysts say Mubarak's release, if it happens, would be seen by many as a sign the military is rolling back the changes that flowed from the 2011 uprising.

Egypt is under a state of emergency as the interim government cracks down on Islamists opposed to the army's ousting of Mr Morsi.

Last week, security forces broke up two Cairo protest camps set up by supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood - from which Mr Morsi hails - with the loss of hundreds of lives.

The crackdown brought strong international condemnation.

EU foreign ministers are due to meet in Brussels to review the bloc's ties with Egypt.

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The military is enforcing a dusk to dawn curfew in many areas including Cairo

The European Union has said that nearly five billion euros ($6.7bn;£4.2bn) in aid to Egypt is under review.

The US has cancelled military exercises with Egypt in the wake of the violence and has been under pressure to make cuts to the $1.3bn (£830m) in annual military aid it gives to the country.

President Barack Obama chaired a meeting of his National Security Council to review aid to Egypt on Tuesday afternoon, but the meeting produced no imminent changes to US policy, officials said.

Hundreds of members of the Muslim Brotherhood - the movement from which Mr Morsi comes - have been detained including its most senior leader, Mohammed Badie.

Mr Badie, who was wanted over alleged incitement to violence and murder, was arrested overnight on Monday in a flat in Nasr City in north-east Cairo, near the site of one of the protest camps broken up by security forces last week.

The Muslim Brotherhood has condemned his arrest and vowed to continue with peaceful protests.

BBC News - Egypt crisis: Court to rule on Mubarak release

And there you have it, if Mubarak is free and we have definitive proof that it was Mubarak supporter in the Judiciary and military that were behind the coup. If he is released, the revolution is dead.

What do you guys think?
@Aeronaut @WebMaster @Zarvan @Patriots @p4kistan @Abu Zolfiqar @ELTurco
 
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Egypt crisis: Court to rule on Mubarak release

_69399900_019009557.jpg

Hosni Mubarak has appeared frail in some of his court appearances

An Egyptian court is due to review a petition for the release of deposed President Hosni Mubarak.

Mubarak is facing a retrial for complicity in the deaths of protesters during the 2011 uprising that ended in his removal from power.

However, his lawyer hopes he will be released once cleared of a corruption charge.

Meanwhile, EU foreign ministers are due to decide whether to cut some of its billions of euros in aid to Egypt.

The EU has strongly condemned the military-backed interim government's crackdown on Islamists following the ousting of President Mohammed Morsi last month.

In a separate development, a Egyptian Coptic Church website has been hacked, apparently by Morsi supporters.

The Account Suspended site was suspended after a picture of a group of pro-Morsi demonstrators appeared on its front page, with a text that read: "Nobody will rule Egypt but Islamists, God willing. Christians, [army chief Gen Abdul Fattah] al-Sisi supporters and thugs to hell."

Correspondents say the Church has been at a heart of recent events, with Coptic Pope Tawadros II supporting the overthrow of President Morsi.

Delay expected

Mubarak, 85, was convicted in June 2012 of conspiring in the killing of protesters in 2011 and sentenced to life in jail.

But in January 2013 an appeal against his conviction was upheld and a retrial ordered.

That retrial opened in May but Mubarak has served the maximum amount of pre-trial detention permitted in the case.

Mubarak's lawyer Fareed al-Dib said he expected his client to be freed after a court ordered his release in one of the remaining corruption cases against him.

However, the public prosecution is expected to appeal against the release, potentially delaying his actual departure from the prison for several days.

The case relates to claims that the former president received gifts from state-run publisher Al-Ahram.

Correspondents say his family has paid back the value of the alleged gifts, strengthening his lawyer's confidence that Mubarak will be released.

The appeals court will meet in the prison where Mubarak is being held.

"I will give my defence and if God is willing... there will be no reason for him to be held in temporary detention," Mr Dib told Reuters TV.

Analysts say Mubarak's release, if it happens, would be seen by many as a sign the military is rolling back the changes that flowed from the 2011 uprising.

Egypt is under a state of emergency as the interim government cracks down on Islamists opposed to the army's ousting of Mr Morsi.

Last week, security forces broke up two Cairo protest camps set up by supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood - from which Mr Morsi hails - with the loss of hundreds of lives.

The crackdown brought strong international condemnation.

EU foreign ministers are due to meet in Brussels to review the bloc's ties with Egypt.

_69399904_019015154.jpg

The military is enforcing a dusk to dawn curfew in many areas including Cairo

The European Union has said that nearly five billion euros ($6.7bn;£4.2bn) in aid to Egypt is under review.

The US has cancelled military exercises with Egypt in the wake of the violence and has been under pressure to make cuts to the $1.3bn (£830m) in annual military aid it gives to the country.

President Barack Obama chaired a meeting of his National Security Council to review aid to Egypt on Tuesday afternoon, but the meeting produced no imminent changes to US policy, officials said.

Hundreds of members of the Muslim Brotherhood - the movement from which Mr Morsi comes - have been detained including its most senior leader, Mohammed Badie.

Mr Badie, who was wanted over alleged incitement to violence and murder, was arrested overnight on Monday in a flat in Nasr City in north-east Cairo, near the site of one of the protest camps broken up by security forces last week.

The Muslim Brotherhood has condemned his arrest and vowed to continue with peaceful protests.

BBC News - Egypt crisis: Court to rule on Mubarak release

And there you have it, if Mubarak is free and we have definitive proof that it was Mubarak supporter in the Judiciary and military that were behind the coup. If he is released, the revolution is dead.

What do you guys think?
@Aeronaut @WebMaster @Zarvan @Patriots @p4kistan @Abu Zolfiqar @ELTurco

Those who protested against Morsi many of them would slapping themselves now but the deserved this and they should get this
 
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think?

the revolution has gone 35 steps backwards and theyre worse than where they were at square-1.

now there's a non-democratically elected care-taker govt. AND there's no law & order; the economy is crippled - their reserves position is weak and that will woo already wary investors (though the gulfies will ensure that the economy doesnt crash)

morsi was an idiot for not reading the signals earlier on - but now its up for big debate whether the intervention was necessary or not. People are so polarized.

i think he should be released - but to placate both sides maybe they should only release him and not let him be eligible for elections.....new candidates on all sides should be fielded - though it seems MB does have the broad support.

With the political blood-shed gripping parts of the country - it will be the most testing time in Egypt's long history
 
Just for clarification. This has nothing to do with the interim government or the military.

Firstly, the appeal filed by Mubarak's defence team against his conviction (complicit in the killing of protesters). This appeal was accepted as Egyptian law states that no man or woman at or above the age of 85 should be imprisoned.

Secondly, prisoners facing conviction or have appealed (and the appeal accepted) can be imprisoned for no longer than a year unless they are facing other charges.

Thirdly, Mubarak isn't facing any other charges.

Finally, according to the law Mubarak has to be released on bail until his retrial (unless other charges are put forward).

This has been going on for over a year. It isn't a surprise really.
 
Just for clarification. This has nothing to do with the interim government or the military.

Firstly, the appeal filed by Mubarak's defence team against his conviction (complicit in the killing of protesters). This appeal was accepted as Egyptian law states that no man or woman at or above the age of 85 should be imprisoned.

Secondly, prisoners facing conviction or have appealed (and the appeal accepted) can be imprisoned for no longer than a year unless they are facing other charges.

Thirdly, Mubarak isn't facing any other charges.

Finally, according to the law Mubarak has to be released on bail until his retrial (unless other charges are put forward).

This has been going on for over a year. It isn't a surprise really.

Correct...No surprise at all..It was expected...After all now coup is complete...
By the way what was the need of ouster of Mubarak? He was released based on which law? The law which SISI suspended?

I think for you Mubrak was not a dictator isnt he? Rule country illegally...no jail. Win election and rule...then jail.
I think every country has to learn a lot from your country...

think?

the revolution has gone 35 steps backwards and theyre worse than where they were at square-1.

now there's a non-democratically elected care-taker govt. AND there's no law & order; the economy is crippled - their reserves position is weak and that will woo already wary investors (though the gulfies will ensure that the economy doesnt crash)

morsi was an idiot for not reading the signals earlier on - but now its up for big debate whether the intervention was necessary or not. People are so polarized.

i think he should be released - but to placate both sides maybe they should only release him and not let him be eligible for elections.....new candidates on all sides should be fielded - though it seems MB does have the broad support.

With the political blood-shed gripping parts of the country - it will be the most testing time in Egypt's long history

He did not have much control at all. May be his plan was to force gradually out. May be he did not think of army will do some thing worse than mubrak era...
 
Correct...No surprise at all..It was expected...After all now coup is complete...

Coup or no coup the result would have been the same. The appeal was already filed/accepted and everyone knew Mubarak would be found innocent of remaining charges (1, receiving gifts from a state newspaper) due to a lack of evidence.

By the way what was the need of ouster of Mubarak? He was released based on which law? The law which SISI suspended?

The constitution was temporarily suspended (not common law) and had no role in the trails. Egyptian law clearly states that no man or woman above the age of 85 can remain in prison and the maximum time you can be held pre-trail is a year. Mubarak will most likely be released on bail and put under house arrest. I'm sure an elected president or parliament or even an unelected council could have removed such laws to prevent this(I guess they were too busy banning **** and ballet).

I think for you Mubrak was not a dictator isnt he? Rule country illegally...no jail.

Are you suggesting I'm somehow supportive of Mubarak?

Mubarak was convicted by the same judiciary and deserves to rot in a prison cell. But, is it worth ignoring the law and due process to incarcerate him till his death, I'm not quite sure.

Win election and rule...then jail.

Wining an election does not make you immune from prosecution.
 
"Mubarak is free
MB are imprisoned
Elbaradie is in Austria

Who the fukc pushed the Restart Game Button?"

I literally LOLed at this comment on FB
 
Correct...No surprise at all..It was expected...After all now coup is complete...
By the way what was the need of ouster of Mubarak? He was released based on which law? The law which SISI suspended?

I think for you Mubrak was not a dictator isnt he? Rule country illegally...no jail. Win election and rule...then jail.
I think every country has to learn a lot from your country...



He did not have much control at all. May be his plan was to force gradually out. May be he did not think of army will do some thing worse than mubrak era...

He did have warning about intervention. It didn't happen out of the blue
 
"Mubarak is free
MB are imprisoned
Elbaradie is in Austria

Who the fukc pushed the Restart Game Button?"

I literally LOLed at this comment on FB

It's better in Arabic


مبارك برا السجن
الاخوان في السجن
البرادعى سافر
مين الحيوان اللى داس
Restart?!
 
Just for clarification. This has nothing to do with the interim government or the military.

You are very naive to think this, if the MB wasn't toppled this would never have happened.

Nevertheless the secularists/liberalists deserve this, they couldn't see the bigger picture the idiots.

Egypt say hello to your downfall at the hands of your own army.
 
You are very naive to think this, if the MB wasn't toppled this would never have happened.

Nevertheless the secularists/liberalists deserve this, they couldn't see the bigger picture the idiots.

Egypt say hello to your downfall at the hands of your own army.

This is a result of a judicial process that has been going on for over a year and not a result of government change. There are many valid criticisms of the interim government and the military but this isn't one of them nor is it their doing.

Your criticism of liberals and seculars (whoever those are since secularism isn't a fully fledged ideology) is unjustified.
 

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