Dubai Airshow 2011

[Nirvana]

Jf-17 have Huge Export Potential In Middle east and Africa Considering Low cost !! Pakistan can Induct them In large Numbers as force Multiplier....How many Units are PAF planning to Induct ?

 

[Rank]

 

[WAQAS119]

full 2 hours plus show time JF-17 started from 27 so on

Listen to the voices("Nice" and "Not Bad") coming from behind (or from commentator) from 33:39 onwards to 33:50.

 

[soul hacker]

Dubai - Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, General Khalid Shameem Wynne, who is on an official visit to Dubai today visited the Pakistan Pavilion at Dubai Air Show where equipment made at Pakistan aeronautical complex and JF-17 was show cased.

According to ISPR, Chairman witnessed the JF – 17 aerial display and appreciated the demonstrated skills of participants. Earlier Chairman met Lieutenant General Hamad Mohammed Thani Al Rumaithi, Chief of Staff UAE armed forces and exchanged views on matters of bilateral interest.

well i think some development may undergo....!

 

[Qasibr]

YAr only Interests no buying

JF-17 Thunder showed exemplary flights over the Dubai airport within the air show. Members of the Azerbaijani delegation also watched the flights.

Reminding about the discussions held with Azerbaijan up to now, the company officials said that the discussions have not entered the phase of purchase and sale yet. Now the company is executing the orders of the Pakistan’s Air Forces, the export to Azerbaijan can be realized in the nearest years. The sides determined the annual amount of the order.

Given that the excerpts are from Azeri news sources, that should answer your question. Other people are DEFINITELY interested in the JF17. Why wouldn't they be, this offers superb modern capabilities at a 3rd of the price. Imagine that, even after the Russians doubled the SU-30's price from <50 Million US$ to nearly 100 million US$ - our 20-30 million US$ JF17 still enjoys the advantage in BVR engagement. With SD10B's greater range, we get to lock first and shoot first. Before the SU-30 with it's gynormous airframe and huge RCS even manages to come within range to achieve lock-on. Pretty ironic, given how they bragged about their BVR advantage for years. The SD10B is a very recent development, R-77 is an older design(and India's are even older, their inventory of R-77s dates back to the mid 90's), and China's investment in this area is much larger than what Russia is able to, in this area, so the advantage Chinese frontline weapons enjoy is only likely to increase. Perhaps Russia should double prices again, because India loves the jet so much. Then, Indians could really criticize us on JF17's cheaper price.

So it is clear and evident that our airforce is focusing on building it's own inventory first. This bird is our main workhorse, and not some export variant with weapons that require Uncle Sam's blessing to function. I know we're anxious to see sales, but I appreciate the foresighted approach they're taking. India has a tendency to get antsy atleast once, often twice, per decade. Everytime we're weak or vulnerable, they come up with an excuse to come to our borders(they came to our borders after 9/11 when the US was pressurizing us to help invade Afg - excuse was some attack on the parliament, and again in 2008 with these Mumbai attacks - excuse/evidence was laughably pathetic, when we were diplomatically cornered already). They even did this back when we were vulnerable and Soviet armour was lined up on the western front, Gen Zia-ul Haq's "cricket diplomacy" and those discrete threats deterred them then. Next time some SU-30 tries to come across the border with bombs loaded, like after Mumbai, we likely won't have an F-16 with missile-lock convincing it to retreat, but likely JF17s or J-10s.

So, they're clearly building up numbers before the prospect of foreign sales arises. The Azeri news-site itself mentions their interest, as well as saying that Azerbaijan can only get this "in the nearest years", because the company(PAC) is executing orders for the PAF. They might even be one of our first customers to get this, "in the nearest years". The Pakistani Defence Minister also went on record stating that the PAC could not build up numbers fast enough to satisfy our needs(PAF is pretty quality-conscious, they probably don't want to compromise on quality-control just to churn out more JF17s).

I believe they're trying to generate alot of interest for the JF17, so when Pakistan has like 100+ JF17s and our assembly lines have expanded enough to build for local as well as for export, there'd be enough demand to keep churning out JF17s for years to come.

 

[nomi007]

I wasn't saying India has F-16s, i was saying that Egypt was rejected Aim-120 because they refused to sign the agreement(CISMOA), and because i forgot the name of the agreement i said it is the same agreement India refused to sign. You just told me the agreement name, so thank you

hi can you tell what CISMOA actually is?
did Pakistan also sign it for f-16s

 

[somebozo]

hi can you tell what CISMOA actually is?
did Pakistan also sign it for f-16s

It basically "All your bases belong to us" kind of thing!

One question?
Where is the LCA>???

 

[SpArK]

Azerbaijan intends to purchase combat aircrafts jointly produced by Pakistan and China
Azerbaijan to purchase Pakistani-Chinese helicopters | Vestnik Kavkaza

 

[nomi007]

It basically "All your bases belong to us" kind of thing!

One question?
Where is the LCA>???

thanks...............

 

[krash]

Listen to the voices("Nice" and "Not Bad") coming from behind (or from commentator) from 33:39 onwards to 33:50.

There was also a "some flares...that would be good" in between.

 

[regular]

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Damn! Looks like U were sitting/standing very next to the Air Chiefs during the show/conference hall..U realli enjoyed the show then..

 

[WAQAS119]

Dubai 2011: Pakistan commander 'Thunders' his approval

Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Pakistan's Chief of the Air Staff, underlined the importance of the new JF-17 Thunder which, he said, &#8220;represented a much-needed capability for the Pakistan Air Force&#8221;.

A 20-fighter squadron air force, the PAF currently operates five frontline fast jet types, consisting of the F-16, the Mirage III/5/50, the Chengdu F-7 and F-7PG, and the Nanchang A-5.

All but the F-16 are based on 1950s or 1960s technology and were described by Suleman as being &#8220;obsolete and expensive to maintain and support&#8221;.

Replacing 250-275 fighters would have placed a heavy burden on Pakistan but the JF-17 offers what Suleman called &#8220;cutting edge capabilities at an affordable cost&#8221; &#8211; estimating that the JF-17s cost one third of the price of fighters offering equivalent capability.

Moreover, because the JF-17 was &#8220;developed from the start by PAF fighter pilots and engineers&#8221;, and because the Chinese team was guided by Pakistani operational experience, the aircraft is tailored to meet Pakistani requirements.

The aircraft&#8217;s performance is already &#8220;far exceeding our expectations&#8221;, Suleman said. A robust growth path is in place and deliveries of Block 2 aircraft will begin next year, after the last of 42 Block 1 JF-17s is delivered.

The Block 2 aircraft incorporates avionics improvements (especially to the data link and EW systems), new guided weapons, and air-to-air refuelling capability. It will include the first two-seat versions.

A Block 3 configuration is planned to follow from 2016.

 

[regular]

Check out @ 0.53.....Wing Commander Ronald. Seems a Christian pilot has excelled on the JF-17. !!

that showz his extreme love for the astonishing JF Thunderz like they do in the West....

 

[WAQAS119]

There was also a "some flares...that would be good" in between.

I actually agree with the advice of Mr. Unknown. That vertical climb and maneuverability was gorgeous and caught many "wows" and if mixed with flares that would have been super gorgeous with jaws of participants falling down.

 

[Dazzler]

if you folks hear the news of an export order, do not forget to thank me as i shared my bit too.