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‘Don’t politicise the armed forces’: Army slams MNS for ‘penance’ fund from 'Ae Dil Hai Mushkil' producers
Rajat Pandit| TNN | Updated: Oct 22, 2016, 23:16 IST
HIGHLIGHTS
  • "Every producer who has cast a Pakistani actor must contribute Rs 5 crore to the Army welfare fund," Raj Thackeray had said
  • Ex-servicemen have hit out at MNS for the demand asking not to drag Army in politics
  • The Army fund was setup earlier this month
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Karan Johar with actress Anushka Sharma talk about ‘Ae Dil Hai Mushkil’ at a Mumbai film festival. (AFP photo)
NEW DELHI: Already upset at the unseemly politicisation of the surgical strikesconducted against terror launch pads in Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir on September 29, the Army expressed disappointment on Saturday at the way the Maharashtra Navnirman Sena+ (MNS) wanted to force film producers employing Pakistan nationals to pay Rs 5 crore to its welfare funds.

"Don't play politics with the Army, which has a strong apolitical, highly-disciplined and secular ethos. The armed forces do not want to be dragged into such low-level political wrangling," said a senior officer. "We only accept funds that are donated voluntarily, not through such coercion or extortion," added another officer.

Officers said an "Army Welfare Fund Battle Casualties" fund was recently created after the force was approached by a large number of philanthropic organizations and individuals who wanted to donate money to assist the next of kin of soldiers killed during operations.

"There was a surge of such requests after 10 soldiers perished in the massiveavalanche in Siachen+ on February 3 as well as the terror attack on the Uri camp on September 18 that left 19 soldiers dead," said an officer.

After extensive deliberations, the 13-lakh strong Army earlier this month decided to accept donations/contributions through a separate and centralized fund, the Army Welfare Fund Battle Casualties, created for such a purpose. "But the donations should be purely voluntary in nature. This fund, of course, is in addition to the various existing schemes for the welfare of next of kin and children of battle casualties," he added.

Ex-servicemen also widely took to twitter to hit out at MNS. In response to a tweet whether he would support Rs 5 crore being extorted from film producers for Army, a retired senior officer, Lt Gen Syed Ata Hasnain (Retd) replied: "Would never support it."

Would never support it. https://t.co/acV3JrQPZS

— Syed Ata Hasnain (@atahasnain53) 1477130539000

"I served four decades in uniform and never did I live on extorted money. What's this happening in my country???" said Air Vice Marshal Manmohan Bahadur (Retd).

"The Indian armed forces cannot, and should not, become crutches for political ambitions. Unfortunately, this is the trend seen in recent past. Stay away please," he said.

"The Army never doubts the love and sentiment of countrymen behind contributions to its welfare fund. But it can't be from Raj Thackeray's extortion," he added.
Why should the Armed Forces be made a part of this extortion? By accepting this money they would become a 'receiver... https://t.co/GQhAme4dVl

— Manmohan Bahadur (@BahadurManmohan) 1477124130000
Army never doubts the love n sentiment of countrymen behind contributions to its welfare fund. From now on...? #RajThackeray 's extortion.

— Manmohan Bahadur (@BahadurManmohan) 1477129000000

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ai-Mushkil-producers/articleshow/55002482.cms
 
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Is there any media branch of Indian armed forces just like Pakistan Armed forces have the ISPR......?
 
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Is there any media branch of Indian armed forces just like Pakistan Armed forces have the ISPR......?
Not as far as I am aware. If any statement has to be released by armed forces it is done by DGMO or Ministry of Defense Spokespersons. Please note that the role of the Army in Pakistan and India is dramatically different. In Pakistan Army is involved in businesses , govt, foreign policy, diplomacy etc etc. In India it is not. It is directly under the civilian control. If at all any media release is to be done it is done by the civilian govt
 
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ISPR is just the "spokesperson" for the official Pakistan Military.

The US Military has their own, i'll guess this is India's: http://www.mod.nic.in/forms/List.aspx?lid=1603&Id=61

And you would be wrong.

The Indian Army does not have an official spokesperson since they are now allowed to make statements to the public. The GoI is the official spokesperson for the Indian Army, Air Force and Navy.

Any and all briefing and press release is done by the MoD.

How much money did MNS took for themselves under the table? This is absurd, let people boycott if they dont want to watch the movie, no need to create unnecessary drama.

I disagree.

MNS is a political party and there is very much need for someone to create a drama to counter the drama of hiring pakistani actors and pretending that pakistan is not responsible for the death of Indians on an almost daily basis.

Maybe you think Indian blood is cheap, I don't.

If MNS can exploit this situation to extort money for themselves, then good for them. We can do with a bit of blood letting from the producers who choose to monetise the infamy of pakistan to make a quick buck.

The people anyway are free to boycott movies or chinese goods either way. No patronage of political parties or forum members are required.
 
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I disagree.

MNS is a political party and there is very much need for someone to create a drama to counter the drama of hiring pakistani actors and pretending that pakistan is not responsible for the death of Indians on an almost daily basis.

Maybe you think Indian blood is cheap, I don't.

If MNS can exploit this situation to extort money for themselves, then good for them. We can do with a bit of blood letting from the producers who choose to monetise the infamy of pakistan to make a quick buck.

The people anyway are free to boycott movies or chinese goods either way. No patronage of political parties or forum members are required.

Was MNS in hibernation when these Pakistani actors landed in Mumbai? Were 26/11 culprits brought to justice or these Pakistani actors condemned them that MNS allowed them to work?
 
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Was MNS in hibernation when these Pakistani actors landed in Mumbai? Were 26/11 culprits brought to justice or these Pakistani actors condemned them that MNS allowed them to work?

Is there a rule that states MNS should protest immediately when the pakistani actors land in mumbai ?

If you do not like the MNS do not vote for them. Its as simple as that. Do not presume to speak for them or decide for them what is 'right' and 'wrong'.

What has 26/11 got anything to do which this ?
 
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Is there a rule that states MNS should protest immediately when the pakistani actors land in mumbai ?

If you do not like the MNS do not vote for them. Its as simple as that. Do not presume to speak for them or decide for them what is 'right' and 'wrong'.

What has 26/11 got anything to do which this ?

I gave my opinion on the issue, who am I to speak or decide for any political party.

This whole issue against Pakistan artists started with them not condemning this attack on India, I was just wondering if they condemned the 26/11 before they were allowed to work in Mumbai. After all Indian blood is not that cheap to be forgotten just because few years have lapsed and people moved on to different issue.
 
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I gave my opinion on the issue, who am I to speak or decide for any political party.

This whole issue against Pakistan artists started with them not condemning this attack on India, I was just wondering if they condemned the 26/11 before they were allowed to work in Mumbai. After all Indian blood is not that cheap to be forgotten just because few years have lapsed and people moved on to different issue.

Your opinion is based on prejudice and not reason, so expressing them publicly will result in it being challenged in public.

Pakistani artist not condemning the attack on India is just an excuse for taking punitive action. The real reason for the action is because they chose to use pakistani actors despite their taint in the death of Indians. Their personal condemnation of any specific act of terrorism is secondary.

One cannot hide under the burqa by claiming they were not personally responsible. The responsibility is COLLECTIVE.

Collective responsibility also known as collective guilt is a concept in which individuals are responsible for other people's actions by tolerating, ignoring, or harboring them, without actively collaborating in these actions.

So if the producers wish to en-cash on their infamy by pretending to be Magnanimous then they can be Magnanimous enough to write off their investment too.

So yes, Indian blood is not cheap so as to be pigeon holed into any specific acts of terrorism like 26/11 or uri attack. This should make it amply clear to those who are confused.
 
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MNS indeed played cheap politics. If there is a ban on Pakistani actors it has to be from the GoI, and not from XYZ local political parties such as MNS.
 
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