Don't Interfere in Our Internal Affairs: Nepal PM Oli Warns India

[punit]

Again gross distortion.. Even though the Madhesh or Terai area holds 51% of the Nepali population, The people of Indian origin comprises just 35% of the country and out of that only 18% are Madheshi.. Easy manipulations for those with vested interests as i mentioned earlier

Please provide proof if other wise without making general assumptions

"The flat southern region of Nepal - the Terai - is known as Madhesh (Madhesh) in the Nepalese language and its indigenous inhabitants are called Madhesi.[4] Terai is a southern strip of the country. The Terai region is mostly a flatland. People of Terai are culturally distinct. According to the population census in 2011, Terai occupies 17% of the total area of Nepal and has 51% (22% Madhesi and 29 Non-Madhesi) of the Nepalese population.

The Madhesi comprise a collection of different communities. The term Madhesh refers to the Indo-Gangetic Plain between theGanges and the Indo-Nepal border.

While in 2011 more than 50% of the total population was reported to be living in the Terai. The people of Indian origin (generally Madhesi) comprised about 35.9% country's population, of which 18% are Madhesis, particularly the Maithils. The other major ethnic minority in the Terai of Nepal are the autochthonous Tharu people"

Madhesi people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are not getting my point. In the ongoing strike both Non Indian Origin tribal and Indian origin people are participating since both groups are affected by the New Constitution.

 

[Gibbs]

You are not getting my point. In the ongoing strike both Non Indian Origin tribal and Indian origin people are participating since both groups are affected by the New Constitution.

Sorry mate.. I'm right on the mark, you're not.. And not all Terai people are protesting only those of so called Indian origin

so called Indian origin population is more than 50 % of population of Nepal.

Another thing is just like how it happened else where Non Nepali people can might well be involved in this destabilization in the guise of Indian origin Nepali's as with your own admission of the porous borders between India and Nepal, The actual numbers of native Madheshis may well be less.. And ofcause 22% of the people of Terai are non Indian origin

 

[punit]

Sorry mate.. I'm right on the mark, you're not.. And not all Terai people are protesting only those of so called Indian origin



Another thing is just like how it happened else where Non Nepali people can might well be involved in this destabilization in the guise of Indian origin Nepali's as with your own admission of the porous borders between India and Nepal, The actual numbers of native Madheshis may well be less.. And ofcause 22% of the people of Terai are non Indian origin

you are wrong by a wide margins. The most violent protest is in fact spearheaded by Tribal ( Tharus).
It was the Tharus who burned a group of policemen in August.

Nepali Times | The Brief » Blog Archive » Kailali carnage

as per ur second assumption .. well if it pleases you to blame India for everything.. there is nothing I can say. good luck.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

This is a discussion board on global issues - you really have no standing to suggest who should comment on what on this board. Modi stuck his face out to get slapped around by the Nepalese - don't blame the rest of us for pointing out the obvious hypocrisy and irony of Mody trying to lecture Nepal and getting insulted in return.

My comments are in line with the topic, and made no specific reference to Indian Muslims.

Insulted? If this is what is being called insulted? By that logic Chinese get insulted every week by the countries surrounding it.
They are infact begging India to get Madhesi parties based in Nepal to call off the strike. Isnt this even shameless?

 

[mike2000 is back]

Of course Pakistan can be a counter force to India. It already is. It's just a pity it is rocked with religious fundamentalism and violence.

The rise of China is a boon for all the smaller countries in South Asia.



China can. And hope it does.

India is a horrible neighbour to almost every country bordering it.

Well, what you said might be true. But then again, so what? This is geo politics, and its a dirty game. If you dont have the capabilities/will/otential to play it, then you have only yourself to blame not others. Since other powers will always try and miantain their influence/hold over the countries they have under their control. We might not like it, it might be immoral but unfortunately thats how it has been for centuries and thats how it will be as long as humans inhabit mother earth.lol

So India using dirty tricks to keep its neighbours under its control/influenceis all but normal to me. Afterall each country ought to look after its interests BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY.

Unfortunately for you small poor south Asian countries, China wouldnt want to start another unncessary confrontation with India in its own neighbourhood since it has farrr bigger challenges in SCS/East Asia against far bigger power like the U.S/Japan/some ASEAN countries, plus China also has a policy of non interference in other countries internal affairs, The hell they dont even interfere in their immediate neighbour Vietnam intrna affairs even though they have a much more bitter dispite/hatred.lool So if south Asian countries are waitin for China to act as their patron, then im afraid they will be dissapointed when push comes to shove. You are still better off looking up to the U.S/U.K/France/Western powers, since these countriesall havea long experience/history of involvement in great games all over the globe. Though to be honest, i dont see even these powers intervening much, we dont really have much interests in S.Asia, as the region has no natural resources nor wealth. So south asian countries will be better off uniting and taking a common stance if they want to have any chance of standing up to S.Asia biggest power India.

 

[samv]

Well, what you said might be true. But then again, so what? This is geo politics, and its a dirty game. If you dont have the capabilities/will/otential to play it, then you have only yourself to blame not others. Since other powers will always try and miantain their influence/hold over the countries they have under their control. We might not like it, it might be immoral but unfortunately thats how it has been for centuries and thats how it will be as long as humans inhabit mother earth.lol

So India using dirty tricks to keep its neighbours under its control/influenceis all but normal to me. Afterall each country ought to look after its interests BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY.

Unfortunately for you small poor south Asian countries, China wouldnt want to start another unncessary confrontation with India in its own neighbourhood since it has farrr bigger challenges in SCS/East Asia against far bigger power like the U.S/Japan/some ASEAN countries, plus China also has a policy of non interference in other countries internal affairs, The hell they dont even interfere in their immediate neighbour Vietnam intrna affairs even though they have a much more bitter dispite/hatred.lool So if south Asian countries are waitin for China to act as their patron, then im afraid they will be dissapointed when push comes to shove. You are still better off looking up to the U.S/U.K/France/Western powers, since these countriesall havea long experience/history of involvement in great games all over the globe. Though to be honest, i dont see even these powers intervening much, we dont really have much interests in S.Asia, as the region has no natural resources nor wealth. So south asian countries will be better off uniting and taking a common stance if they want to have any chance of standing up to S.Asia biggest power India.

A long rant that I didn't bother to read.

At the end of the day the rise of China is most welcome to South Asia's smaller countries..

 

[fallstuff]

Indians funded LTTE terrorists, later on they were fighting their own terrorists LTTE !!!

LTTE later blew Rajives head off his shoulder in India after the Indian army was kicked out of Sri Lanka.

Wanna bet what will happen to Modi ?

 

[oproh]

India should mind it's own business, Nepal did the right thing.

 

[Gibbs]

you are wrong by a wide margins. The most violent protest is in fact spearheaded by Tribal ( Tharus).
It was the Tharus who burned a group of policemen in August.

Nepali Times | The Brief » Blog Archive » Kailali carnage

as per ur second assumption .. well if it pleases you to blame India for everything.. there is nothing I can say. good luck.

Mate this is what you said..

so called Indian origin population is more than 50 % of population of Nepal.

And that's my contention.. Now you're just shifting the goal posts and contradicting your self after i clearly debunked your point as a blatant lie with facts, Facts that you're not able to counter

So i'm not far off you are way off

Even if the tribals are joining the protests they don't constitute to the all of 22% on non Indian origin people of the Terai region.. Now you're just making things up.. Now that 51% is nothing but made up stats by those with vested interests to give as excuses for their meddling in the internal affairs of another sovereign nation, As it has happened in other countries

The problem is here not the involvement of India in the instability of Nepal after all India is trying to safeguard it's strategic interests using the Indian origin populations as a tool but this holier than thou attitude portrayed by it's authorities, Media and some posters here as if they are innocent by standers accused by the Nepali's unfairly.. Utter hog wash that wont convince anybody with a brain cell

 

[punit]

Mate this is what you said..



And that's my contention.. Now you're just shifting the goal posts and contradicting your self after i clearly debunked your point as a blatant lie with facts, Facts that you're not able to counter

So i'm not far off you are way off

Even if the tribals are joining the protests they don't constitute to the all of 22% on non Indian origin people of the Terai region.. Now you're just making things up.. Now that 51% is nothing but made up stats by those with vested interests to give as excuses for their meddling in the internal affairs of another sovereign nation, As it has happened in other countries

The problem is here not the involvement of India in the instability of Nepal after all India is trying to safeguard it's strategic interests using the Indian origin populations as a tool but this holier than thou attitude portrayed by it's authorities, Media and some posters here as if they are innocent by standers accused by the Nepali's unfairly.. Utter hog wash that wont convince anybody with a brain cell

my first statement was that out of total population of nepal Indian origin people ( madheshi as well non madheshis ) are almost 50 %. U countered it with a wiki quote which puts the % at around 40 %. Even if i accept ur wiki data it makes people of Indian origin the largest ethnic group in Nepal.

Now for the current conflict. Agitation pf people of terai /Madhesh ( indian origin and Tharu tribals) and is not something new it is going on since last many years and has seen many agitation, agreement and conflicts. The location of terai is such that the agitators can effectively shut down any supply coming from india. Also due to blood and family relation between people of terai/madhesh and neighboring indian population .. agitators receives support from this side of border. New constitution has reduced the political power of the people of madhesh significantly. Situation is such that despite being half the population the no of seats in parliament from the region is very less. the agitation will continue even if so called Indian support is withdrawn because for the inhabitant of madhes ( Indian origin or tharus ) it is matter of political life and death.

 

[My-Analogous]

India's internal problem are none of ur concern nor does Modi. Mind you, you have no moral authority to speak for Indian Muslims either .
Sick of u guys bringing in Modi everywhere. This or that Modi. And unfortunately this tendency is what makes him popular.

Yeah and soon he will be more popular then Hitler and Napoleon. After all his is from same class

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You ask me to stick to the topic and then go talking about India ? Medhasi community in Nepal is upset at Nepal leadership and security forces, blaming India is taking the pakistani route. Cant solve their internal problems, point fingers at others

The Indian PM interjected himself and the conditions in Indian into the conversation when he chose to criticize Nepalese security forces for acting in a manner that they thought appropriate to maintain law and order.

Modi's own failure to crackdown on extremist violence in India against people who eat meat etc. became relevant to the topic once he chose to interfere in Nepal's internal affairs and bash the Nepalese State for actually taking a forceful stance against non-State actors perpetrating chaos.

 

[Star Wars]

The Indian PM interjected himself and the conditions in Indian into the conversation when he chose to criticize Nepalese security forces for acting in a manner that they thought appropriate to maintain law and order.

lol, what conditions ? India has already denied sending any conditions to Nepal in setting up their constitution. It was entirly their choice to setup the constitution that some of their people disliked, India isn't forcing thousands of people to riot in nepal.

Modi's own failure to crackdown on extremist violence in India against people who eat meat etc. became relevant to the topic once he chose to interfere in Nepal's internal affairs and bash the Nepalese State for actually taking a forceful stance against non-State actors perpetrating chaos.

you make no sense what so ever, your obsession with linking everything to India is leading you to make rather retarded connections

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

lol, what conditions ? India has already denied sending any conditions to Nepal in setting up their constitution. It was entirly their choice to setup the constitution that some of their people disliked, India isn't forcing thousands of people to riot in nepal.

I need to put this in my signature, "Oh ye Indian faithful, do not respond until thee have learned the art of reading the post ye are responding to and have attained rudimentary English comprehension skills " - the use of the word "conditions" was a reference to the "extremist Hindu violence in India against those who don't agree with their beliefs", and not a reference to "conditions being imposed by India upon Nepal",

you make no sense what so ever, your obsession with linking everything to India is leading you to make rather retarded connections

See above and try again.

 

[Areesh]

Such a shame. After "muslim" Pakistan and "communist" China, it is now virat hindus of Nepal that showed India a middle finger.