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What motives underlie the month-long standoff between Indian Army troops and Chinese border guards in the Doklam bowl, on the Sino-Indian border in Sikkim? What is at stake there for India and China? How could this play out, and is there a real threat of war?

The confrontation began in mid-June, when the Chinese entered the Doklam bowl, a picturesque, 89 square kilometre series of meadows near the Nathu La border crossing between Sikkim and Tibet’s Chumbi Valley. Doklam is claimed by both China and Bhutan; while China, India and Bhutan do not agree where their borders meet. The Chinese and Bhutanese armies send occasional patrols to Doklam in summer, while graziers from both sides herd their yaks here – traditional ways of staking claim to Himalayan territory – but the patrols and graziers are only temporary visitors.

Last month, however, Chinese road construction crews, escorted by border guards, disturbed this delicate status quo by attempting to consolidate permanent “facts on the ground”. Barging into Doklam, they began extending a mud-surface road they had partly built more than a decade ago. This rough track would connect Doklam to Highway S-204, a blacktop Chinese road in the Chumbi Valley, theoretically allowing Chinese troops to drive directly from the Tibetan city of Shigatse, through Yadong, across the border into Doklam, and then south to China’s claimed border line at Gyemochen (which the Chinese call Mount Gipmochi). A Chinese road in this disputed territory would add weight to Beijing’s claim over it.




Since India does not claim the Doklam bowl, China’s entry placed the ball squarely in Bhutan’s court. But Thimphu had not objected forcefully when China had encroached into the Doklam bowl in 2003-07, and it was – understandably, given Bhutan’s power differential with China – reluctant to intervene now. Consequently, Indian troops in the vicinity, acting in accordance with New Delhi’s foreign policy coordination treaty with Thimphu, crossed on June 16 into Bhutanese-claimed territory and physically blocked the movement of Chinese border guards. India also positioned two bulldozers in the Doklam bowl to undo any road construction by the Chinese. Since then, several hundred Indian soldiers and as many Chinese border guards (since their army does not guard the border) have come face to face in Doklam in a testy stalemate.

Backing up their soldiers on the ground, foreign ministry spokespersons in Beijing, Thimphu and New Delhi have rationalised their positions. On June 26, Beijing invoked an 1890 agreement between China and Great Britain that specified Mount Gipmochi as the border junction. Three days later, Thimphu cited agreements in 1988 and 1989 not to disturb the status quo. The next day, New Delhi pointed out that Beijing had agreed in 2012 to finalise the border tri-junction consultatively and that “unilaterally determin[ing] tri-junction points is in violation of this understanding.”

Threat to the Siliguri corridor?

Indian commentators have claimed that New Delhi’s unusual resoluteness in this confrontation stems from a threat to the Siliguri corridor – a 23 kilometre-wide funnel of Indian territory that squeezes between Nepal and Bangladesh, giving India access to its seven north-eastern states. Siliguri is just 80 kilometres from the current border. It is argued that allowing China to shift the border to Mount Gipmochi would bring the threat even closer.



In fact, this danger is dramatically overblown. A Chinese advance to Siliguri would require the mobilisation of large numbers of People’s Liberation Army (PLA) troops from around Lhasa, and Mainland China. Dennis Blasko, a leading expert on the Chinese military, says the PLA’s on-going reorganisation aims to increase the “new-type combat forces”, which are capable of being used anywhere in China or its borders, but there are not enough of these forces in Tibet to break through India’s forward defences in Sikkim. Bringing in sufficient numbers and acclimatising them to Tibet’s high altitudes would take the PLA weeks, losing strategic surprise and allowing India to comfortably reinforce its defences in Sikkim.

If moving appropriate troops into the Chumbi Valley is a logistical challenge, shielding them from Indian artillery, air and ground attacks in that bottleneck would be even more difficult. Thereafter, the PLA would have to break through formidable Indian defences, attacking mainly uphill, and then advance southward to Siliguri across thickly forested hills, harried all the way by numerically superior Indian forces. Such an advance, carried out cross-country, would inevitably leave behind artillery and logistic support, rendering Chinese infantry spearheads sitting ducks for Indian forces. If, miraculously, the Chinese still reach Siliguri, they would be decimated in massed attacks from Indian reserves that could be built up steadily.

“Sikkim is where India attacks China, not the other way around”, say typically blunt planners in New Delhi. Lieutenant General SL Narasimhan (Retired), who has commanded a brigade and a division in Sikkim and now serves on India’s National Security Advisory Board has written that concerns about Siliguri are overblown.

The Bhutan factor

With Siliguri not a major concern, New Delhi’s purposefulness at Doklam stems, more likely, from the belief that Beijing is testing India’s commitment to Bhutan. China has always been galled by this close relationship, which has withstood sustained Chinese pressure to divide it. At Doklam, military pressure and Beijing’s unprecedented rhetoric have been reinforced by diatribes from Chinese and China-friendly media, alleging India’s colonial exploitation of Bhutan.

Neville Maxwell, as always in lockstep with Chinese propaganda, writes in the South China Morning Post: “The Indian attempt to depict this confrontation as tripartite should be disregarded. Bhutan is not an independent actor [but] rather an Indian glove-puppet.”

Maxwell makes the outrageous assertion that New Delhi keeps Thimphu in line by permanently stationing an army brigade group (3,500-5,000 troops) in Bhutan. Numerous Indian and international commentators too have incorrectly cited similar numbers. In fact, India’s military presence in Bhutan is restricted to 800 trainers for the Royal Bhutan Army, and about 100 soldiers with the Border Roads Organisation, which builds and maintains several Bhutanese roads, using civilian hired labour.

New Delhi understands that backing off would amount to throwing Bhutan under the Chinese bus, allowing Beijing to dictate a border settlement with Thimphu. On the other hand, Beijing understands that allowing India to intervene militarily on behalf of Bhutan would send an undesirable message to other regional states that China seeks to keep divided and mindful of its status as the next global superpower.

New Delhi remains firm about its support to Bhutan. Says former national security advisor, Shivshankar Menon, in a media interview: “[W]e have a certain relationship and certain obligations to Bhutan. In this case, China’s actions have disturbed the status quo, and that needs to be addressed.”

How much of a flashpoint?

The Doklam confrontation does not yet appear a flashpoint that could trigger open hostilities. No shots have been exchanged, in contrast to the 1967 gun battles at Nathu La and Cho La, just kilometres from Doklam, in which 88 Indian soldiers were killed and 163 wounded; and an estimated 340 Chinese soldiers died and 450 were wounded. Nor is this the longest or most tense face-off ever. That dubious distinction goes to the 1986-87 crisis on the Sumdorong Chu (rivulet) near Tawang, after China occupied the disputed Wangdung grazing ground and the Indian Army responded with a months-long build-up of tens of thousands of troops along the McMahon Line. Beijing quickly understood that New Delhi had abandoned its post-1962 defensive mind set and the crisis was resolved, leading on to the Peace and Tranquillity Agreement of 1993 and the Confidence Building Measures of 1996 that have kept the peace on the border ever since.

But this equilibrium has now been disturbed, and both sides have played roles in it. American sinologist, John Garver, writing in the South China Morning Post, says a rising and assertive China, looking to be the paramount power in Asia, wants to serve up a public lesson to India – which it sees as the weakest link in a chain of states, including the US, Japan and Australia, that are trying to contain China. Supporting this rationale for Beijing’s shrill aggression over Doklam, other commentators have pointed to China’s opposition to India’s membership of the Nuclear Suppliers Group, its blocking of a UN resolution to declare Pakistan-based Azhar Masood a global terrorist, New Delhi’s unapologetic backing of the Dalai Lama, including a government sponsored visit to Tawang, and the Indian government’s forthright rejection of China’s flagship Belt and Road Initiative. In the Indian Ocean too New Delhi is lining up more visibly against China, with its navy cooperating and training regularly with the American and Japanese navies in exercises like the recently concluded “Exercise Malabar”.

While deteriorating Sino-Indian relations are a reality, there is insufficient recognition of the fact that border incidents are increasingly triggered by India’s increasing military strength and an increasingly assertive posture on the border. Over the last decade, India has strengthened its defences in Arunachal Pradesh by adding two divisions (35,000 – 40,000 troops), and is raising a mountain strike corps (60,000 troops) that can operate in Ladakh, Sikkim or Arunachal Pradesh. Besides these, India has moved more than two brigades (7,000 – 10,000 troops) from Kashmir to Ladakh and strengthened defences further with the induction of tank and armoured infantry units. The little-known upshot is that India’s military posture has become significantly stronger than China’s on the 3,500-kilometre Line of Actual Control (LAC).

This is enhancing confrontation between the two sides. For decades, India maintained an insignificant military presence in Daulet Beg Oldi, in Ladakh, ceding the run of the place to China. But, when India’s thickening troop presence blocked Chinese patrols into the area, a prolonged confrontation ensued in 2013. One general involved in that standoff says: “The Chinese demanded to know why we were blocking them now, when they had been patrolling that area for years.”


A similar confrontation took place in Chumar, in Ladakh, in 2014. Now, in Doklam, Chinese anger stems from being blocked in 2017, after facing no resistance between 2003-2007, when they tested the waters by building the existing track. Furthermore, a more active media in both countries is bringing confrontations to public attention, forcing both governments into harder-line stances and depicting as surrender the give-and-take that must necessarily accompany the resolution of each incident.

One more thread on the impasse. But, nice points by the otherwise dour Shukla.
 
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The country that is being threatened by the change in status quo is not China or Bhutan, but India, due to the Chicken's Neck Corridor.

This entire situation is about the Chicken's Neck Corridor.

And sure, India does have genuine reasons to be sensitive about the Chicken's Neck Corridor. Which would be important if China and India were friendly countries with each other. But that's not the case, which is why China is still intent on building that road.

And it is extremely unlikely that China will stop the construction, just see what happened in the South China Sea. China is still building there as we speak.

When countries ask others to "respect their sensitivities", well this is a two-way street. And neither China nor India are interested in doing that for the other side.

War is relatively unlikely, unless India decides to use military force to stop the construction, rather than the current hand-holding human chain strategy.

And the fact that this has blown up in the media means that both sides are unlikely to back down. The fact that it is a "land-border" dispute also makes it much more dangerous, compared to sea-based disputes which are generally limited to small naval skirmishes even in the worst case scenario.
 
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As far as i see, i think issue lies in north i.e OBOR. China have invested too much in it and india is the only thorn here. Another issue is, i think china have sensed indo-pak war in coming years so they want to divert indian military to theirself.

Doklam is just an excuse. You just cant wake up and do start chanting for war. It was preplanned by china and known to india as well but propped up later on.

One more point, India will do everything to defend its east. Its like do or die. So if china have plans to annex indian territory, india may have also chosen its target in china's tibet.
 
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The country that is being threatened by the change in status quo is not China or Bhutan, but India, due to the Chicken's Neck Corridor.

This entire situation is about the Chicken's Neck Corridor.

And sure, India does have genuine reasons to be sensitive about the Chicken's Neck Corridor. Which would be important if China and India were friendly countries with each other. But that's not the case, which is why China is still intent on building that road.

And it is extremely unlikely that China will stop the construction, just see what happened in the South China Sea. China is still building there as we speak.

When countries ask others to "respect their sensitivities", well this is a two-way street. And neither China nor India are interested in doing that for the other side.

War is relatively unlikely, unless India decides to use military force to stop the construction, rather than the current hand-holding human chain strategy.

And the fact that this has blown up in the media means that both sides are unlikely to back down. The fact that it is a "land-border" dispute also makes it much more dangerous, compared to sea-based disputes which are generally limited to small naval skirmishes even in the worst case scenario.
Hey buddy. How are you?

BTW good post. Land border dispute is really dangerous.
 
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If India starts to boycott Chinese products China will come on it knees in one week Chinese knows it better that's why they not escalate this matter further
 
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If India starts to boycott Chinese products China will come on it knees in one week Chinese knows it better that's why they not escalate this matter further

How much does India import vs how much does America import from China. The issue is more than just economics. If neither country backdown, there could be issues.
 
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How much does India import vs how much does America import from China. The issue is more than just economics. If neither country backdown, there could be issues.
We have trade deficit. We cant stop chinese trade.
 
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It's just matter of who will blink first. Modi has a reputation to upkeep so I believe he won't, so the ball is in China's court either up the ante and make Modi blink or return to status-quo.
 
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But, when India’s thickening troop presence blocked Chinese patrols into the area, a prolonged confrontation ensued in 2013. One general involved in that standoff says: “The Chinese demanded to know why we were blocking them now, when they had been patrolling that area for years.”


A similar confrontation took place in Chumar, in Ladakh, in 2014. Now, in Doklam, Chinese anger stems from being blocked in 2017, after facing no resistance between 2003-2007, when they tested the waters by building the existing track. Furthermore, a more active media in both countries is bringing confrontations to public attention, forcing both governments into harder-line stances and depicting as surrender the give-and-take that must necessarily accompany the resolution of each incident.

One more thread on the impasse. But, nice points by the otherwise dour Shukla.


Difference b/w Modi govt and Congress govt.
 
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And it is extremely unlikely that China will stop the construction, just see what happened in the South China Sea. China is still building there as we speak.


War is relatively unlikely, unless India decides to use military force to stop the construction, rather than the current hand-holding human chain strategy.

Did you just compare countries in SCS with India?

India has already stopped the construction and standing on your turf as per your foreign office. Do what you can.

India may not defeat you but it can surely kick you back in nankin massacre era.
 
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It's just matter of who will blink first. Modi has a reputation to upkeep so I believe he won't, so the ball is in China's court either up the ante and make Modi blink or return to status-quo.

Modi wont blink,that would be the end of his image.Doval actually wanted to raise cpec use of kashmir on his upcoming china trip ,forget being just defensive on sikkim, but he was restrained to only talk about LAC ,acc to reports.

Xi cant blink either,before his reaffirming in upcoming party congress.I think we are looking at a long standoff like 1987 that lasted years.After Xi re-election in party congress and modi in 2019,i think both sides will quietly hush up the matter.

China has no win option here.If it attacks india,win or lose - it loses.
1.Even if it wins which highly doubtful due to indian defences and terrain and naval advantage - they still lose 100 billion dollar market permanently.( which almost same as OBOR investment and double that of CPEC)This market will only grow bigger.They can also kiss any future connectivity projects in the region goodbye.India will reject everything .
2.Its economy will suffer if there is a war regardless of outcome,the Indian navy is sure to sink lots of chinese shipping.
3.To dislodge India,China will have to attack.This will be bad in its position in international diplomacy.Especially due to China being export driven economy.USA could very likely respond with sanctions.Trump wanted a trade war and is unhappy on how xi fooled him regarding North korea.This would give him legitimate cover for such a move.
4.Finally and most importantly,it will ensure strategic encirclement of China.India as of yet is a swing state,with a lean towards USA and Japan,but not directly allied to them.An open war will lead to India shedding its neutral stance in its aftermath.This is a long term geopolitical blunder of the first rate,and plays directly into USA's hand.

The only reason China could attack -
1.Hoping for a very short border war,take a few patches of land.Bargain for that territory.Hope to send the message that China is still the big boy in the region and weaken Indian position in South asia amongst its smaller neighbours.

2.PLA has a short window of less than 10 years ,if it wants to fight a border war with a chance to win.India's defensive position along LAC has vastly improved from say 2007.In another 10 years our border infrastructure buildup(most important) and mountain strike corps will be fully ready.Our tactical ballistic missile(pralay) will be deployed.Artillery modernization will be complete.Apaches and Mountain fighting helicopter LCH will be deployed.India's nuclear arsenal is growing and newer ICBM class agni missiles are entering production - in 10 years they will be deployed in bulk.Also PLA is downsizing.After that it will become impossible for China to hope to win a border war with India on land.They have a 10 year window at best.

In the air the balance will remain largely the same.But in the sea,the PLAN will become a much bigger threat for IN.Right now they have almost no capability to challenge us in IOR.In 10 years that may change.

So there are a lot of factors to consider.
 
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Modi wont blink,that would be the end of his image.Doval actually wanted to raise cpec use of kashmir on his upcoming china trip ,forget being just defensive on sikkim, but he was restrained to only talk about LAC ,acc to reports.

Xi cant blink either,before his reaffirming in upcoming party congress.I think we are looking at a long standoff like 1987 that lasted years.After Xi re-election in party congress and modi in 2019,i think both sides will quietly hush up the matter.

China has no win option here.If it attacks india,win or lose - it loses.
1.Even if it wins which highly doubtful due to indian defences and terrain and naval advantage - they still lose 100 billion dollar market permanently.( which almost same as OBOR investment and double that of CPEC)This market will only grow bigger.They can also kiss any future connectivity projects in the region goodbye.India will reject everything .
2.Its economy will suffer if there is a war regardless of outcome,the Indian navy is sure to sink lots of chinese shipping.
3.To dislodge India,China will have to attack.This will be bad in its position in international diplomacy.Especially due to China being export driven economy.USA could very likely respond with sanctions.Trump wanted a trade war and is unhappy on how xi fooled him regarding North korea.This would give him legitimate cover for such a move.
4.Finally and most importantly,it will ensure strategic encirclement of China.India as of yet is a swing state,with a lean towards USA and Japan,but not directly allied to them.An open war will lead to India shedding its neutral stance in its aftermath.This is a long term geopolitical blunder of the first rate,and plays directly into USA's hand.

The only reason China could attack -
1.Hoping for a very short border war,take a few patches of land.Bargain for that territory.Hope to send the message that China is still the big boy in the region and weaken Indian position in South asia amongst its smaller neighbours.

2.PLA has a short window of less than 10 years ,if it wants to fight a border war with a chance to win.India's defensive position along LAC has vastly improved from say 2007.In another 10 years our border infrastructure buildup(most important) and mountain strike corps will be fully ready.Our tactical ballistic missile(pralay) will be deployed.Artillery modernization will be complete.Apaches and Mountain fighting helicopter LCH will be deployed.India's nuclear arsenal is growing and newer ICBM class agni missiles are entering production - in 10 years they will be deployed in bulk.Also PLA is downsizing.After that it will become impossible for China to hope to win a border war with India on land.They have a 10 year window at best.

In the air the balance will remain largely the same.But in the sea,the PLAN will become a much bigger threat for IN.Right now they have almost no capability to challenge us in IOR.In 10 years that may change.

So there are a lot of factors to consider.

Post worthy of a Think Tank :tup::tup: revived memories of old PDF
 
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