Does Quraish and tribes of Ansar still exist today?

[Armstrong]

Oi @KingMamba - What were you again ?

 

[IamBengali]

@al-Hasani your field of expertise.

Al-Hasani is probably a Quraish descendant since the name Hasani belong to Quraish tribe. Hashim - Hashemi - Hasani.

 

[al-Hasani]

@Farah Sohail

The Quraysh tribe is still the biggest tribe in Makkah among the local Hijazis. It's probably still among the very biggest tribes in all of Hijaz. There are several sub-clans. It's a huge "family". So yes, they are still living in their ancestral lands and obviously all over the Arab world and outside of it due to migrations throughout the centuries. They were often the very first people to spread Islam to non-Muslim lands and held high positions in the societies as clerics or rulers etc.

Al-Hasani is probably a Quraish descendant since the name Hasani belong to Quraish tribe. Hashim - Hashemi - Hasani.

Hashimi, Hasani, Hussaini, Idrisi, Zaidi, Baqiri, Ja'fari, Radawi, Taqawi, Naqawi, Mousawi and many other surnames are indications of an Hashemite ancestry. But not all Sadah use those surnames.

Listing some of the surnames used by members of the Quraysh tribe would be too hopeless since there are simply too many. But I can give you a hint and tell you that the members of the Rashidun, Umayyad, Fatimid and Abbasid Caliphates belonged to the Quraysh tribe as did/do a lot of various past or present ruling families in the Muslim world.

If you really want most of the surnames I can give you Arabic sources.

I have a double-barrelled surname where 2 of those surnames are part of.

Besides this thread does not fit on this section and quite frankly it has little importance.

Yes, migrations of Sadah families to South Asia is a historical and well-established fact actually but whether all were/are genuine we cannot know. I think that genetic tests have been done on many of the Sadah family members where it was proven that the vast majority of the tested individuals actually had ME ancestry and often clustered together indicating a common background. But obviously probably only a minority was tested. In any case it should not have much of an importance other than curiosity and historical interest.

 

[KingMamba]

Oi @KingMamba - What were you again ?

In Pakistan the Qureshis claim descent from the tribe but not from the Hashemites afaik. I think you would find more Qureshis in Sindh because the Arabs settled down and married local women.

You find brahmin, rajput, thakur converts and then there are qureishis and ansars etc etc. None of the lower castes ever converted you see.

A lot of lower classes converted but they usually took the surname of their Pir's silsila. The disciples of my families silsila use Maharvi as a surname.

The Brahmins still use their old surnames although the spelling may be different like Kashmiri converts, rajputs still use their old surnames as well although some may use different ones. IDK about Thakurs.

 

[Armstrong]

In Pakistan the Qureshis claim descent from the tribe but not from the Hashemites afaik. I think you would find more Qureshis in Sindh because the Arabs settled down and married local women.

Well judging by the Qureshis, Al-Makkis & other such wonderfully delusional people one gets, one could be forgiven if one thought that all of them are coming off a production line !

Tu khud bhi tou asliii nahin !

 

[KingMamba]

Well judging by the Qureshis, Al-Makkis & other such wonderfully delusional people one gets, one could be forgiven if one thought that all of them are coming off a production line !

Tu khud bhi tou asliii nahin !

Lol we have arable land so we have a lot more children than people living in the middle east. IDK it is really irrelevant today so there is no point but everyone should just get DNA tests or whatever if they are curious.

 

[Armstrong]

Lol we have arable land so we have a lot more children than people living in the middle east. IDK it is really irrelevant today so there is no point but everyone should just get DNA tests or whatever if they are curious.

What if mine stated 'Has a strong genotype resemblance to a chimpanzee' !

Bhai seh naraaaz haiii kiyaaa ?

 

[KingMamba]

What if mine stated 'Has a strong genotype resemblance to a chimpanzee' !

Bhai seh naraaaz haiii kiyaaa ?

Nai kyoun?

 

[Farah Sohail]

@Farah Sohail

The Quraysh tribe is still the biggest tribe in Makkah among the local Hijazis. It's probably still among the very biggest tribes in all of Hijaz. There are several sub-clans. It's a huge "family". So yes, they are still living in their ancestral lands and obviously all over the Arab world and outside of it due to migrations throughout the centuries. They were often the very first people to spread Islam to non-Muslim lands and held high positions in the societies as clerics or rulers etc.



Hashimi, Hasani, Hussaini, Idrisi, Zaidi, Baqiri, Ja'fari, Radawi, Taqawi, Naqawi, Mousawi and many other surnames are indications of an Hashemite ancestry. But not all Sadah use those surnames.

Listing some of the surnames used by members of the Quraysh tribe would be too hopeless since there are simply too many. But I can give you a hint and tell you that the members of the Rashidun, Umayyad, Fatimid and Abbasid Caliphates belonged to the Quraysh tribe as did/do a lot of various past or present ruling families in the Muslim world.

If you really want most of the surnames I can give you Arabic sources.

I have a double-barrelled surname where 2 of those surnames are part of.

Besides this thread does not fit on this section and quite frankly it has little importance.

Yes, migrations of Sadah families to South Asia is a historical and well-established fact actually but whether all were/are genuine we cannot know. I think that genetic tests have been done on many of the Sadah family members where it was proven that the vast majority of the tested individuals actually had ME ancestry and often clustered together indicating a common background. But obviously probably only a minority was tested. In any case it should not have much of an importance other than curiosity and historical interest.

Thanks for the info. Great to know tht u belong to Quraish tribe as well.... Do u know any thing abt Aus and Khazraj tribes?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Are the Qureshis of India and Pakistan really their descendants or are they simply Indian converts who adopted the Qureshi surname to put themselves head and shoulders above other Muslims as is quite common among sub-continental muslims ?

You will find Syeds even in central asia... they very seldom marry outside their community.. but yes there are fake ansaris n qureshis aswell .. the "kaami" who changed their castes from jolahas,mochis etc... in punjab... but ppl know abt them..

You find brahmin, rajput, thakur converts and then there are qureishis and ansars etc etc. None of the lower castes ever converted you see.

Retarded assumptions from a central or south indian..

@Farah Sohail

The Quraysh tribe is still the biggest tribe in Makkah among the local Hijazis. It's probably still among the very biggest tribes in all of Hijaz. There are several sub-clans. It's a huge "family". So yes, they are still living in their ancestral lands and obviously all over the Arab world and outside of it due to migrations throughout the centuries. They were often the very first people to spread Islam to non-Muslim lands and held high positions in the societies as clerics or rulers etc.



Hashimi, Hasani, Hussaini, Idrisi, Zaidi, Baqiri, Ja'fari, Radawi, Taqawi, Naqawi, Mousawi and many other surnames are indications of an Hashemite ancestry. But not all Sadah use those surnames.

Listing some of the surnames used by members of the Quraysh tribe would be too hopeless since there are simply too many. But I can give you a hint and tell you that the members of the Rashidun, Umayyad, Fatimid and Abbasid Caliphates belonged to the Quraysh tribe as did/do a lot of various past or present ruling families in the Muslim world.

If you really want most of the surnames I can give you Arabic sources.

I have a double-barrelled surname where 2 of those surnames are part of.

Besides this thread does not fit on this section and quite frankly it has little importance.

Yes, migrations of Sadah families to South Asia is a historical and well-established fact actually but whether all were/are genuine we cannot know. I think that genetic tests have been done on many of the Sadah family members where it was proven that the vast majority of the tested individuals actually had ME ancestry and often clustered together indicating a common background. But obviously probably only a minority was tested. In any case it should not have much of an importance other than curiosity and historical interest.

I know a few hasanis,zaidis,naqaqis n jafaris... most of the jafaris n zaidis are shia.. although not all... and most of these people are dont marry outside their communities.. and come from the blood lines of sufi saints...

In Pakistan the Qureshis claim descent from the tribe but not from the Hashemites afaik. I think you would find more Qureshis in Sindh because the Arabs settled down and married local women.



A lot of lower classes converted but they usually took the surname of their Pir's silsila. The disciples of my families silsila use Maharvi as a surname.

The Brahmins still use their old surnames although the spelling may be different like Kashmiri converts, rajputs still use their old surnames as well although some may use different ones. IDK about Thakurs.

Rajputs also dont marry outside... and have their sub castes like noon,naru,rathore,minhas,bhatti,manj,janjuas etc..

 

[al-Hasani]

Thanks for the info. Great to know tht u belong to Quraish tribe as well.... Do u know any thing abt Aus and Khazraj tribes?

You are welcome.

Yes, both of them are still living in their native Hijaz and all over the Arab world and probably also the Muslim world although the migrations were less numerous than those of the Sadah families.

For instance in Palestine there is the Nusaybah clan. Maybe the most famous Palestinian family.

I am not sure if you read Arabic but if you do I can give you some Arabic sources that could be useful for you.

@DESERT FIGHTER

Interesting. I don't know that much about the sadah families of South Asia to be honest with you outside the basics.

 

[Sinnerman108]

^^^

No one is going to answer that !

 

[Tameem]

Out of curiosity.. I wanted to know...that whether Quraish tribe and tribes of Ansar(Aus and Khazraj) still exist today? Where are their descendans today?

In Indo-Pak people using surname like "Siddiqi", "Farooqi" & Usmani are direct descendent of Quresh.

Osmani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Shabbir Ahmad Usmani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's my ancestry as well.