Documentary depicts ancient Göbeklitepe as idol center

[Hindustani78]

A documentary prepared jointly by TRT, the Diyarbakır Governor’s Office and the Turkish Development Ministry has claimed that the ancient statues in the world’s oldest-known temple were constructed by the Prophet Abraham’s father, Terah, prompting anger from archaeologists who say the claim is erroneous and misleading.

The documentary, which was produced to introduce the cultural heritage of the southeastern province Diyarbakır, claims that a T-shape statue in Göbeklitepe with a fox motif was destroyed by Abraham.

During a part of the video in which the idol is destroyed, the narrator says: “Who can tell us that it was not Aser [Terah], father of Prophet Abraham, who built the statues in Göbeklitepe? Or can we claim that the temple where the idols that Prophet Abraham broke was not Göbeklitepe?”

Göbeklitepe has been dated to 12,000 years ago, well before the time in which Abraham is said to have lived.

Archeologist and publisher Nezih Başgelen said the purpose behind the move was to target Göbeklitepe.

“Within the framework of results that were obtained through scientific methods, Göbeklitepe dates back to 11,800-8,600 BCE. Here we see that there is a gap of around seven to eight thousand years between the date that scientific research has proved and the dates of religious references. Therefore, from this perspective, there are many problems in depicting Göbeklitepe as a communal site related to Prophet Abraham,” said Başgelen.

“Showing the statues as idols that were broken is dangerous targeting,” he said.

Located in Örencik, 18 kilometers from the center of the southeastern province of Şanlıurfa, Göbeklitepe was first discovered in 1963 during surface surveys carried out by researchers from the universities of Istanbul and Chicago.

Since 1995, the Şanlıurfa Museum and the German Archaeology Institute have been collaborating on the excavations.

Researchers have discovered 3- to 6-meter-long T-shaped steles weighing between 40 and 60 tons, the ruins of the world’s oldest temple, a large number of wild animal figures, human sculptures and a nearly 65-centimeter-long human sculpture from 12,000 years ago.

Many organizations, including the Culture and Tourism Ministry, have been conducting various projects for the promotion of Göbeklitepe, which is expected to enter the permanent list of UNESCO’s World Heritage Sites thanks to its historic texture, archaeological value and uniqueness.

January/05/2017

 

[Srinivas]

But the bible says the world was created in 4000 B.C how is it possible that the history of 12000 B.C related to Bible or Jewish texts?

A documentary prepared jointly by TRT, the Diyarbakır Governor’s Office and the Turkish Development Ministry has claimed that the ancient statues in the world’s oldest-known temple were constructed by the Prophet Abraham’s father, Terah, prompting anger from archaeologists who say the claim is erroneous and misleading.

The documentary, which was produced to introduce the cultural heritage of the southeastern province Diyarbakır, claims that a T-shape statue in Göbeklitepe with a fox motif was destroyed by Abraham.

During a part of the video in which the idol is destroyed, the narrator says: “Who can tell us that it was not Aser [Terah], father of Prophet Abraham, who built the statues in Göbeklitepe? Or can we claim that the temple where the idols that Prophet Abraham broke was not Göbeklitepe?”

Göbeklitepe has been dated to 12,000 years ago, well before the time in which Abraham is said to have lived.

Archeologist and publisher Nezih Başgelen said the purpose behind the move was to target Göbeklitepe.

“Within the framework of results that were obtained through scientific methods, Göbeklitepe dates back to 11,800-8,600 BCE. Here we see that there is a gap of around seven to eight thousand years between the date that scientific research has proved and the dates of religious references. Therefore, from this perspective, there are many problems in depicting Göbeklitepe as a communal site related to Prophet Abraham,” said Başgelen.

“Showing the statues as idols that were broken is dangerous targeting,” he said.

Located in Örencik, 18 kilometers from the center of the southeastern province of Şanlıurfa, Göbeklitepe was first discovered in 1963 during surface surveys carried out by researchers from the universities of Istanbul and Chicago.

Since 1995, the Şanlıurfa Museum and the German Archaeology Institute have been collaborating on the excavations.

Researchers have discovered 3- to 6-meter-long T-shaped steles weighing between 40 and 60 tons, the ruins of the world’s oldest temple, a large number of wild animal figures, human sculptures and a nearly 65-centimeter-long human sculpture from 12,000 years ago.

Many organizations, including the Culture and Tourism Ministry, have been conducting various projects for the promotion of Göbeklitepe, which is expected to enter the permanent list of UNESCO’s World Heritage Sites thanks to its historic texture, archaeological value and uniqueness.

January/05/2017

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

It most probably a Pagan Structure .
All Hail the Pagan Lords and the Greatest Pagans of All

 

[Sugarcane]

But the bible says the world was created in 4000 B.C how is it possible that the history of 12000 B.C related to Bible or Jewish texts?

Which Jewish text says the world was created in 4000 B.C?

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

Which Jewish text says the world was created in 4000 B.C?

Abraham was born around 1900 BCE
Rest is Maths .

In other words, Adam's lifespan would have overlapped with that of Noah's father Lamech by at least fifty years. Ussher and a group of theologians and scholars in 1630 performed calculations and created a study that reported the creation of Adam on October 23, 4004 BC at 9:00 am and lived until 3074 BC.

 

[Hindustani78]

But the bible says the world was created in 4000 B.C how is it possible that the history of 12000 B.C related to Bible or Jewish texts?

So you know what Bible says ?

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

So you know what Bible says ?

The dating is done by Scholars

 

[Srinivas]

Which Jewish text says the world was created in 4000 B.C?

Genisis

How did he get 4004 BC?

Answer: He used the chronologies in the Hebrew text of Genesis 5 and 11, together with other Bible passages that we will consider. To simplify the calculations, Ussher ties the chronology to the final deportation of Judah in 584 BC. His detailed calculations cover over 100 pages in the original document

Ussher is the person who proposed this date based on the Hebrew(jewish) texts.

So you know what Bible says ?

yes

 

[Hindustani78]

Abraham was born around 1900 BCE
Rest is Maths .

In other words, Adam's lifespan would have overlapped with that of Noah's father Lamech by at least fifty years. Ussher and a group of theologians and scholars in 1630 performed calculations and created a study that reported the creation of Adam on October 23, 4004 BC at 9:00 am and lived until 3074 BC.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

I can't interpret .
But the surprising thing is , People of Abrahmic Faiths had no clue about Aryans despite having an Orgin not far away from them

 

[Sugarcane]

Abraham was born around 1900 BCE
Rest is Maths .

In other words, Adam's lifespan would have overlapped with that of Noah's father Lamech by at least fifty years. Ussher and a group of theologians and scholars in 1630 performed calculations and created a study that reported the creation of Adam on October 23, 4004 BC at 9:00 am and lived until 3074 BC.

All the calculations are based on assumptions but even if you take these calculations it still doesn't answer the question unless you are saying that birth of Adam is equal to birth of Earth.

 

[Hindustani78]

I can't interpret .
But the surprising thing is , People of Abrahmic Faiths had no clue about Aryans despite having an Orgin not far away from them

Arab nation doesnt deny that they are close to Indian nation.

 

[Sugarcane]

Genisis

How did he get 4004 BC?

Answer: He used the chronologies in the Hebrew text of Genesis 5 and 11, together with other Bible passages that we will consider. To simplify the calculations, Ussher ties the chronology to the final deportation of Judah in 584 BC. His detailed calculations cover over 100 pages in the original document

Ussher is the person who proposed this date based on the Hebrew(jewish) texts.



yes

So, you are doing deliberate intellectual dishonesty by termining someone's proposal/interpretation/work as holy books.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

All the calculations are based on assumptions but even if you take these calculations it still doesn't answer the question unless you are saying that birth of Adam is equal to birth of Earth.

If I remember correctly , Adam and Eve were created on 6th day .
So we assume the God's day is much larger than Earths day . Adam and Eve were Punished out of Garden of Eden and From then on the Human cycle began of Earth . But if you add on the age or Chronlogy of Characters mentioned in the texts then it comes around 4000 BCE .

 

[Srinivas]

I can't interpret .
But the surprising thing is , People of Abrahmic Faiths had no clue about Aryans despite having an Orgin not far away from them

So, you are doing deliberate intellectual dishonesty by termining someone's proposal/interpretation/work as holy books.

most of the biblical scholars believe this date.

I am quoting from them only.