Do you consider Pakistan to be a Middle-Eastern nation?

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Chill.. No one really understands what you have written.
India = Bharat = Hindustan = Aryavrat = (any other historical name)

They are different names. Aryavarta is race based name related to Aryans. Hindustan is land/state based name which established India by the Vedic caste system. Bharat is Scythian clan based name, this clan arrived in India a thousand years after establishment of the ancient Indian identity.

 

[Varunastra]

Indians fought and died for the British during WW2. Were they not brave? North African soldiers and officers fought and died for France. Brave, no? But as I said in the long term these things do not blur the difference in identities.

Even in British era they were fighting for the British Indian Army.
Anyways in long term only the identity you chose matters. Do you chose to identify as Indian and work to uplift the glory of the Tiranga. As India's economic might and prestige grows the number of people thinking otherwise will keep on decreasing.
The days of nations having a single ethnicity is over and for small nations only. The sense of belonging matters.

 

[magra]

No regret, if half of Bangladesh spoke another language I would still support one more division. Everyone deserves to rule themselves and not be forced married to other ethnicities.

That is your thinking and your choice.
People in India are not forced together. Go to Andhra, Punjab, Maharashtra or anywhere else .. No one will say they want separate country. There are some pockets of dissatisfaction (which is common to any country). We are dealing with them as in any democratic nation.

India is historical name of Sindh, not of Ganges or Deccan. Just because some Europeans made a mistake don't mean you have to make the mistake permanent. Europeans made a lot of other mistakes with the term Indian, lol.

Hindustan / India was the name given to us by outsiders at that time due to Sindhu river. Overtime, we started liking these names and see no reason to change just because some people broke away from us.
Tomorrow you will say change religion name from 'Hindu' to something else cos that too came from Sindhu river.

 

[VCheng]

Pakistan is a nation?

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Hindustan / India was the names given to us by outsiders at that time due to Sindhu river.

Ayodhya and Mauryan empires were Hindustani empires established by the descendants of the original Hindustani Kshatriya whose ancestry originated in Ur, Sumeria.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Ayodhya and Mauryan empires were Hindustani empires established by the descendants of the original Hindustani Kshatriya whose ancestry originated in Ur, Sumeria.

I think they only have a problem with Muslim foreign invaders

 

[Varunastra]

Ayodhya and Mauryan empires were Hindustani empires established by the descendants of the original Hindustani Kshatriya whose ancestry originated in Ur, Sumeria.

Sumeria?

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

I think they only have a problem with Muslim foreign invaders

They have problem with Delhi and Mughal empires too which were Hindustani empires as well. These empires united greater India to the same extent as Maurya [my ancestry]. Delhi sultanate shed blood to defend and liberate India from Mongols but they give no credit to it. They actually have a problem with Monotheist belief. Original Hindustani Kshatriya were Monotheists who did not worship idols. They worshiped in idol free structures called Vihar. Hindus changed the meaning of Vedic monotheism [Vihari/ Sanathan dharm] to something completely different defined as pantheism today.

Sumeria?

Yes. You don't know original India. There were two founding groups from different origins. Aryans [Brahman] from Southern Russia/Central Asia and Sharif or Deva [Kshatriya] from Ur, Sumerian civilization. Urdu originally means 'going away from Ur'.

 

[CatSultan]

They have problem with Delhi and Mughal empires too which were Hindustani empires as well. These empires united greater India to the same extent as Maurya [my ancestry]. Delhi sultanate shed blood to defend and liberate India from Mongols but they give no credit to it. They actually have a problem with Monotheist belief. Original Hindustani Kshatriya were Monotheists who did not worship idols. They worshiped in idol free structures called Vihar. Hindus changed the meaning of Vedic monotheism [Vihari/ Sanathan dharm] to something completely different defined as pantheism today.

Yes. You don't know original India. There were two founding groups from different origins. Aryans [Brahman] from Southern Russia/Central Asia and Sharif or Deva [Kshatriya] from Ur, Sumerian civilization. Urdu originally means 'going away from Ur'.

Source? I always hear Urdu comes from Ordu which is Persian for Army. thats why the full name is Zaban e Ordu Muallah

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Source? I always hear Urdu comes from Ordu which is Persian for Amry. thats why the full name is Zaban e Ordu Muallah

The word exists in many languages today with shades of related meanings. No doubt original source is Sumerian which was language isolate. Don't remember the book's name but I may have it referenced in an old email. It clearly said Ur-du in Sumerian means going away from Ur. People ignore the third wife Kethura r.a. of Prophet Ibrahim a.s. I will try to post a video of a Jewish rabbi, they know some of Prophet Ibrahim's descendants from her spread to India (including Pakistan and Afghanistan). But he had them confused with Brahman who are Aryans originating in southern Russia. Sanskrit is native Aryan Brahman language, but it is not native language of the original Kshatriya.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Source? I always hear Urdu comes from Ordu which is Persian for Amry. thats why the full name is Zaban e Ordu Muallah

Search the YouTube video 'Brahmans or Hindus lost the teachings of Abraham PBUH'.
How do you post videos here?

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Source? I always hear Urdu comes from Ordu which is Persian for Amry. thats why the full name is Zaban e Ordu Muallah

Actually the book said Du in Sumerian means going away [from]. So Ur-du would mean going away from Ur.

 

[CatSultan]

Actually the book said Du in Sumerian means going away [from]. So Ur-du would mean going away from Ur.

Urdu - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Urdu is a persian word that was loaned from the turkic word Ordu. Which means Horde. The english word Horde and the word Urdu have the same roots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu

The word exists in many languages today with shades of related meanings. No doubt original source is Sumerian which was language isolate. Don't remember the book's name but I may have it referenced in an old email. It clearly said Ur-du in Sumerian means going away from Ur. People ignore the third wife Kethura r.a. of Prophet Ibrahim a.s. I will try to post a video of a Jewish rabbi, they know some of Prophet Ibrahim's descendants from her spread to India (including Pakistan and Afghanistan). But he had them confused with Brahman who are Aryans originating in southern Russia. Sanskrit is native Aryan Brahman language, but it is not native language of the original Kshatriya.

@Talwar e Pakistan what do you think?

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Ref. Brittanica.com :- The earliest Vedic texts listed the Kshatriya (holders of kshatra, or authority) as first in rank, then the Brahmans.

That is how and why Hindu Brahmans of the Gangetic belt lost the message that the Rabbi spoke of. It was hunger for power. They corrupted the original Vedic system founded on the Indus switching the natural hierarchy. Thus, over time Kshatriya Vihari Monotheist belief known in the Brahman stream as Sanathan which was taught to the masses became corrupted by idolatry and pantheism.

Urdu - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Urdu is a persian word that was loaned from the turkic word Ordu. Which means Horde. The english word Horde and the word Urdu have the same roots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu

@Talwar e Pakistan what do you think?

I know about the language, I am talking about my historical identity which relates to it.

 

[Asian.Century]

Actually I do strongly consider always Pakistan to be a Middle-eastern nation due to its historic links with Persian Empire, Arab linkages and then Indus Valley Civilization of its own. And now Pakistan with Muslims majority, customs and culture much like the Middle-eastern but I highly consider Pakistanis to be much sharper, hard-work and resilient in all the Middle-eastern nations.