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Location_______: Cianjur Region, West Java Province, Indonesia
Sub Location___: Karyamukti Village, District Campaka.
Village________: Between Hamlet Gunungpadang & Panggulan.
Coordinate_____: 6 ° 59'36 .9035 "S - 107 ° 3'22 .6264" E


Named Mount Padang, because the word of the "Padang" is derived from a few syllables, namely:
• Pa = Place
• Da = Large / Gede / General / Kingdom
• Hyang = grandparent / ancestors / Biyang / Great Ancestor
So the meaning of the word Padang if the mean is the Great Place of the Patriarchs , or in other words, mean = Great Place of the Patriarchs

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view from Padang Mountain


The dating of the earliest level of Gunung Padang in Java to 10,000 Bc catches the attention, whilst it is being claimed on such evidence as the oldest and most extensive megalithic site worldwide, it interests me more in that it would be around contemporary with the early Neolithic period in Anatolia.


The site has been mentioned in terms of being an actual constructed pyramid, but that seems highly unlikely, though it has been terraced and the megalithics were placed on such upper terraces, with a staircase of Andesite blocks leading to these.

The team that has given the dating has also scanned for internal chambers within the mount, saying there is strong evidence to suggest such, and contemplating the possible hidden wonders within.

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The Illustration of the Whole Structure

All the literature and unpublished artifacts around the world about 3000 years old civilization maximum BC. Carbon tests Gunung Padang break it. Gunung Padang maximum recorded age 10,000 years BC," he told VIVAnews, Saturday, June 23, 2012.

results of carbon dating showed surprising results.. According to one member of the team, Boedianto Ontowirjo, carbon dating shows Mount Padang older than the pyramids of Giza in Egypt.

Drilling results from samples taken from the terrace of 5 in drill point 2 with a depth of 8 to 10 meters, the results show 11 060 yrs + / - 140 years Before Present. "If you converted to calendar age equivalent to 10 thousand BC," said Boedianto,

He added that this is not a job and without literacy. Dani says this is one proof of the thinking and research of Professor Stephen Oppenheimer famous for his work "Eden in the East."

"In the book it is mentioned that Indonesia as a center of advanced civilization in the era 10,000 years BC. This is a cycle that must be proved, such as the disappearance of dinosaurs from the earth," he said.

in a written statement received by VIVAnews, March 4, 2012.

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Discovered Structures (Outer Layer)

Integrated Research Team Self Mount Padang today mengeskavasi the eastern site. The team leader, Dr Nata Wijaya Dani Hilman, said that the megalithic sites is probably evidence of the oldest civilizations in the world.

"All the literature and unpublished artifacts around the world about 3000 years old civilization maximum BC. Carbon tests Gunung Padang break it. Gunung Padang maximum recorded age 10,000 years BC," he told VIVAnews, Saturday, June 23, 2012.

He added that this is not a job and without literacy. Dani says this is one proof of the thinking and research of Professor Stephen Oppenheimer famous for his work "Eden in the East."

"In the book it is mentioned that Indonesia as a center of advanced civilization in the era 10,000 years BC. This is a cycle that must be proved, such as the disappearance of dinosaurs from the earth," he said.

Dani says Oppenheimer notes in the book mentions the first time a civilization raising Indonesia before spreading to other parts of Asia. Advanced technology, he added, comes from here. Then the time it moves left the area to spread out. This is the question that must be answered, why did they move?

Saturday, the team Dani doing excavation eastern part of Mount Padang. "I hope we find something that can be used as a reference for sure from the estimated cavity on the inside of the structure of Mount Padang megalithic sites. Cavity is kept a mystery for some superb civilization in any form, as long as the form has not been able to open anything," he said.

Possibilities that are inside the cavity of Mount Padang could be objects or scratches wall. "Anything that does not matter, because these findings will be an important reference. All findings letters, pictures or whatever it is, is always found in a variety of enclosed space. When do further research on these findings, it always gives an outstanding record of civilization," he added.

Dani explains many priceless objects in certain population groups. The objects are very protected and bound by a mythology that is considered sacred and can not be opened.

"Take the example Bedouin Lama, there is something very exceptional and could open the veil of civilization as well. Unfortunately this could not be investigated and be opened for community leaders and elders do not allow it. They are very protective of that thing called hereditary heritage," he explained.



• VIVAnews

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Archaeologists are excavating the sites.

US lab validates Cianjur ‘ancient structure’ theory


A recent analysis of carbon-dating by the Miami-based Beta Analytic Lab has apparently validated findings by a government-sanctioned team that a man-made structure, buried under Mount Padang in Cianjur, West Java, is older than the Giza pyramid.

Carbon-dating test results from the Miami lab show that the structure could date back to 14,000 BC or beyond.

The lab used samples of sand, soil and charcoal found at a depth of between three and 12 meters beneath the mountain’s surface.

The Giza pyramids were constructed around 2,500 BC.

“The analysis of the Miami lab dismisses doubts over an earlier test conducted by the National Nuclear Agency [Batan]. There is no more doubt that the structure beneath Mount Padang is older than the Giza pyramid,” geologist and member of the Mount Padang research team Budianto Ontowirjo said on Sunday.

A group of researchers, coordinated by President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono’s special advisor on disaster mitigation and social assistance Andi Arief, commissioned a study about the ancient “structure” “buried” under Mount Padang at the beginning of this year.

Andi reportedly believes Indonesia was inhabited by people with sophisticated technology after he found much evidence beneath the land and sea around Sumatra, Java and Bali. Yudhoyono has given his support to the project.

In February, the group published its findings, claiming that the structure might change the history of the nation as we know it. Indonesia’s history might well start before 4 AD.

“If the structure beneath the mountain is naturally constructed, then the age revealed by carbon-dating process should have been much greater,” Budianto said.

Any natural material buried between three and 12 meters under the surface should have been millions of years in age, Budianto said.

The fact that the material beneath Mount Padang is relatively young indicates that it probably is man-made.

Besides the result of the carbon-dating, Budianto and his colleagues also claim that they had found other concrete evidence to show that pre-historic men might have erected structure in the mountain.

“We found motives in the forms of tiger’s claws or a kujang [dagger], which are engraved on the stones there. We suspect they are letters to mark the stones,” he said.

Earlier this year, the preliminary finding was met with criticism and objections by a larger group of geologists and archeologists. Activists have also called the project a waste of the state’s budget as it has spent billions of rupiahs. Environmentalists, meanwhile, have expressed concern that the research could damage the ecosystem around Mount Padang.

Meanwhile, archeologist Ali Akbar of the University of Indonesia said that it was premature to conclude that the Mount Padang structure was man-made.

Ali said that before drawing such conclusion, the team would need to start a massive excavation project to unearth the whole structure beneath the mountain.

Early indications show however, that the structure was probably man-made.

“Found at the site were blocks of stones which are neatly placed three meters beneath the ground. I suppose they were not naturally placed there,” Ali said. (riz)
 
I hope the local people didn't destroy it like they did with many temples in the past.

Indonesia is one of the lost civilization, destroyed by his own people because of religion issue. If at the time people didn't buried most of the Buddhist Hindus temples, Borobudur will not exist today.

I hope Indonesia government send army to protect that site.
 
I hope the local people didn't destroy it like they did with many temples in the past.

Indonesia is one of the lost civilization, destroyed by his own people because of religion issue. If at the time people didn't buried most of the Buddhist Hindus temples, Borobudur will not exist today.

I hope Indonesia government send army to protect that site.

Would you care to tell me which temple was destroyed by the locals in the past?

Actually, there were no ancient temple destroyed by the locals caused by religion issues, almost every ancient temples are discovered, in fact, Borobudur temple, Prambanan temple two of the biggest temples in the world were and are still protected by Islamic empire Demak and Jogja sultanate even though they are neither Buddhist nor Hindus.

Don't worry, we are not Moghul or Western Empires who like to burn down ancient places, those religious bastards will not dare to burn down those temples.
 
Actually the legendary city of Dwaraka (in India) which legends put at 12,000 BC was discovered submerged off the coast of present day Gujarat state in India. Carbon dating of artifacts found on this port city showed it to be 9,500 years old i.e 7,500 BC

This scientifically proves existence of a port city with massive stone walls, Stone structures, pottery and hand tools in 7,500 BC. Indian civilization puts Vedas as 6000 years old. The pyramids of egypt itself is dated 3,500 BC or 5500 years old.
 
Strange to see that most of the older architect of many cultures more or less bears resemblance to Pyramids.
 
Actually the legendary city of Dwaraka (in India) which legends put at 12,000 BC was discovered submerged off the coast of present day Gujarat state in India. Carbon dating of artifacts found on this port city showed it to be 9,500 years old i.e 7,500 BC

This scientifically proves existence of a port city with massive stone walls, Stone structures, pottery and hand tools in 7,500 BC. Indian civilization puts Vedas as 6000 years old. The pyramids of egypt itself is dated 3,500 BC or 5500 years old.

The carbon test done by U.S lab validates the age of the oldest structure is from 14.000 BC
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/11/05/us-lab-validates-cianjur-ancient-structure-theory.html

India and Indonesia has surely have some sort connection in ancient cultures don't you think? I always spotted some relatively similar structures in almost every ancient sites in Indonesia and India. Wonder the men who met each other the first time though..

Strange to see that most of the older architect of many cultures more or less bears resemblance to Pyramids.

I have always think that the Giza pyramid itself is a small part of this ancient structures itself, as many Pyramids came from much earlier age than those in Egypt.
 
The carbon test done by U.S lab validates the age of the oldest structure is from 14.000 BC
US lab validates Cianjur

India and Indonesia has surely have some sort connection in ancient cultures don't you think? I always spotted some relatively similar structures in almost every ancient sites in Indonesia and India. Wonder the men who met each other the first time though..



I have always think that the Giza pyramid itself is a small part of this ancient structures itself, as many Pyramids came from much earlier age than those in Egypt.

Indonesians were hindus weren't they at one point in time ?

May be because of the Chola empire
 
The carbon test done by U.S lab validates the age of the oldest structure is from 14.000 BC
US lab validates Cianjur

India and Indonesia has surely have some sort connection in ancient cultures don't you think? I always spotted some relatively similar structures in almost every ancient sites in Indonesia and India. Wonder the men who met each other the first time though..

I have always think that the Giza pyramid itself is a small part of this ancient structures itself, as many Pyramids came from much earlier age than those in Egypt.

Thank you for that link ...but the link says carbon dating was done on the Soil and not on any artifacts found there. Naturally as you dig the soil gets older. The circumstantial evidence is that when this structure was dug out, the soil around it was carbon dated to 14,000 BC. I am not aware of such carbon dating of soil in Indian archaeological finds. Usually the man made articraft are carbon dated to determine when it was made.

Of course India and Indonesia has a connection that goes back at least 1600 years but I am of the belief that the links are more ancient than that. What is the oldest found artifact in Indonesia ?
 
Thank you for that link ...but the link says carbon dating was done on the Soil and not on any artifacts found there. Naturally as you dig the soil gets older. The circumstantial evidence is that when this structure was dug out, the soil around it was carbon dated to 14,000 BC. I am not aware of such carbon dating of soil in Indian archaeological finds. Usually the man made articraft are carbon dated to determine when it was made.

Of course India and Indonesia has a connection that goes back at least 1600 years but I am of the belief that the links are more ancient than that. What is the oldest found artifact in Indonesia ?

The soil and charcoal founds were used to determine how old the structure because the bigger site itself is still buried underneath the mountain, to confirm the actual age of this structure will need a massive excavation. The 14.000 BC is the closest prediction that archaeologists have. They also found charcoal motives of tiger and dagger on the stones found in the sites.
 
Would you care to tell me which temple was destroyed by the locals in the past?

Actually, there were no ancient temple destroyed by the locals caused by religion issues, almost every ancient temples are discovered, in fact, Borobudur temple, Prambanan temple two of the biggest temples in the world were and are still protected by Islamic empire Demak and Jogja sultanate even though they are neither Buddhist nor Hindus.

Don't worry, we are not Moghul or Western Empires who like to burn down ancient places, those religious bastards will not dare to burn down those temples.

Before being persecuted, they buried it all to the ground to avoid destruction, and just recently dig out by archeologists from Europe.

And if you want to know more about the real history of Indonesia, go to Bali.
 
The carbon test done by U.S lab validates the age of the oldest structure is from 14.000 BC
US lab validates Cianjur

India and Indonesia has surely have some sort connection in ancient cultures don't you think? I always spotted some relatively similar structures in almost every ancient sites in Indonesia and India. Wonder the men who met each other the first time though..



I have always think that the Giza pyramid itself is a small part of this ancient structures itself, as many Pyramids came from much earlier age than those in Egypt.

If India and Indonesia have similarity, it because of the civilization of Kiratas people of India, before the Aryan came.

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If India and Indonesia have similarity, it because of the civilization of Kiratas people of India, before the Aryan came.

There was no 'Aryan' invasion .....they never came, it never happened.

That racist theory is now confined to the dustbins of British imperial history. Kindly do not make reference to that piece of racist nonsense, a lot of Indians find it very offensive.

If India and Indonesia have similarity, it because of the civilization of Kiratas people of India, .....

Though it is tempting to credit Indian Indonesian link to Kiratas due to the racial angle to it ...there is no evidence to prove the same.

It is more likely the Indian civilization that spread till Border of Vietnam, spread to Indonesia via the sea and trade route.
 
The soil and charcoal founds were used to determine how old the structure because the bigger site itself is still buried underneath the mountain, to confirm the actual age of this structure will need a massive excavation. The 14.000 BC is the closest prediction that archaeologists have. They also found charcoal motives of tiger and dagger on the stones found in the sites.

Would you have pictures of that charcoal motif of the tiger ? Is Tiger and Lotus native to Indonesia ? Can you provide pictures of earliest found articraft in Indonesia ?
 
Would you have pictures of that charcoal motif of the tiger ? Is Tiger and Lotus native to Indonesia ? Can you provide pictures of earliest found articraft in Indonesia ?

I can't provide you the picture, I just quoted the news which says that there are some charcoal motives on the founds, the site itself is just recently discovered, the geologists have not yet come to any final conclusions nor major publications including the photographs of the found artifacts.

Tiger is native to Indonesia, there are Panthera Tigris Sumatrae and Panthera Tigirs Sondaica.

I can hardly found "the earliest" found artifact in Indonesia because the new earlier artifacts are always coming up replacing that title, meanwhile, the artifacts found in Sumba, East Nusa Tenggara, are dated back to 3500 - 2000 B.C.

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