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Disappearances With Reported Ties to Pakistan Worry U.S.

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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is expressing alarm over reports that thousands of political separatists and captured Taliban insurgents have disappeared into the hands of Pakistan’s police and security forces, and that some may have been tortured or killed.
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The issue came up in a State Department report to Congress last month that urged Pakistan to address this and other human rights abuses. It threatens to become the latest source of friction in the often tense relationship between the wartime allies.

The concern is over a steady stream of accounts from human rights groups that Pakistan’s security services have rounded up thousands of people over the past decade, mainly in Baluchistan, a vast and restive province far from the fight with the Taliban, and are holding them incommunicado without charges. Some American officials think that the Pakistanis have used the pretext of war to imprison members of the Baluch nationalist opposition that has fought for generations to separate from Pakistan. Some of the so-called disappeared are guerrillas; others are civilians.

“Hundreds of cases are pending in the courts and remain unresolved,” said the Congressionally mandated report that the State Department sent to Capitol Hill on Nov. 23. A Congressional official provided a copy of the eight-page, unclassified document to The New York Times.

Separately, the report also described concerns that the Pakistani military had killed unarmed members of the Taliban, rather than put them on trial.

Two months ago, the United States took the unusual step of refusing to train or equip about a half-dozen Pakistani Army units that are believed to have killed unarmed prisoners and civilians during recent offensives against the Taliban. The most recent State Department report contains some of the administration’s most pointed language about accusations of such so-called extrajudicial killings. “The Pakistani government has made limited progress in advancing human rights and continues to face human rights challenges,” the State Department report concluded. “There continue to be gross violations of human rights by Pakistani security forces.”

The Obama administration has largely sought to confront Pakistan in private with evidence of human rights abuses by its intelligence and security forces, fearing that a public scolding could imperil the country’s cooperation in combating Al Qaeda, the Taliban and other extremist groups.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, the administration of President George W. Bush urged Pakistan to capture militants and Islamic extremists linked to the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Since then, human rights groups have said that Pakistan’s security forces used that campaign as a cover to round up hundreds, if not thousands, of political activists and guerrilla fighters in Baluchistan and hold them in secret detention.

Precise numbers of disappearances are difficult to pin down, human rights advocates say, partly because family members fear that reporting missing relatives could endanger the relatives or even themselves.

“It is very difficult to put numbers on disappearances as they are accompanied by intimidation of the next of kin of the disappeared,” said Ali Dayan Hasan, a senior researcher for Human Rights Watch in Lahore, Pakistan. “People are unable to speak publicly. But we can safely say that disappearances are the order of the day across Pakistan, particularly in relation with counterterrorism.”

In Islamabad on Wednesday, the interior minister, Rehman Malik, addressed the security issue in Baluchistan without mentioning the disappearances. “We are trying to ensure law and order in Baluchistan,” he told lawmakers in the National Assembly. “I will assure that we will do everything to improve the situation.” In August 2009, he acknowledged that 1,291 people were missing in the country. Husain Haqqani, Pakistan’s ambassador to Washington, said in an e-mail on Wednesday that “the courts and the government are investigating cases of disappearances with a view to establishing the whereabouts of the disappeared persons and the circumstances under which the alleged disappearances took place.”

Under pressure from Pakistan’s Supreme Court, which has held hearings on petitions filed by family members of missing Baluch men, as well as public rallies in supported of the disappeared, the government of President Asif Ali Zardari has been forced to respond to the outcry. A judicial commission established to investigate the disappearances is scheduled to present its report to the Supreme Court on Friday.

Pakistani intelligence officials say that human rights groups have exaggerated the number of people held incommunicado. The officials seemed to justify the extrajudicial detentions by citing the country’s weak judicial system and often poor police investigations that they say have led to dozens of terrorism suspects’ being acquitted by local courts.

American officials have dismissed these claims for years. “ ‘Disappeared’ Pakistanis — innocent and guilty alike — have fallen into a legal black hole,” the United States Embassy in Islamabad said in a cable, dated Feb. 8, 2007, that was obtained by WikiLeaks and made available to some news organizations, including The New York Times.

American officials are expanding programs to build up the judicial system in Pakistan. Officials also offer human-rights training to police officers and finance programs to reduce the backlogs of court cases that prevent family members of those who disappear from seeking relief through the Pakistani judicial system.

“This issue has been a persistent challenge for Pakistan,” said a senior American official who deals with South Asia and who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the delicacy of the matter. “We’re trying to help Pakistan build democratic institutions so they can be a more effective partner.”

But American officials concede that the programs may take years to produce enduring results. The State Department’s most recent report on human rights in Pakistan, issued in March, said that during 2009 “politically motivated disappearances continued, and police and security forces held prisoners incommunicado and refused to disclose their location.”

That report, citing a Pakistani human rights group, said that in August 2009, Pakistani Frontier Corps paramilitary troops arrested two members of the Baluchistan National Party in Khuzdar, Pakistan. Two days later, the men were turned over to the police. “Both men showed evidence of having been tortured,” the report said. “Authorities reportedly forced them to make false confessions before their release.”

Salman Masood contributed reporting from Islamabad, Pakistan.



http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/30/world/asia/30disappear.html?_r=1&hp
 
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American officials are expanding programs to build up the judicial system in Pakistan. Officials also offer human-rights training to police officers and finance programs to reduce the backlogs of court cases that prevent family members of those who disappear from seeking relief through the Pakistani judicial system.

Americans should setup a similar program in the Indian Occupied Kashmir where the human rights violations are many fold.
of course to keep a balance and keep both of its "friends" happy, America needs to match the programs in Pakistan X5 times in India.
 
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Americans should setup a similar program in the Indian Occupied Kashmir where the human rights violations are many fold.
of course to keep a balance and keep both of its "friends" happy, America needs to match the programs in Pakistan X5 times in India.

...and why would Americans do that in India?

They are doing so in Pakistan because:
1. You are letting them do it in your country; and
2. bold part in the quote below

“This issue has been a persistent challenge for Pakistan,” said a senior American official who deals with South Asia and who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the delicacy of the matter. “We’re trying to help Pakistan build democratic institutions so they can be a more effective partner.”
 
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Americans should setup a similar program in the Indian Occupied Kashmir where the human rights violations are many fold.
of course to keep a balance and keep both of its "friends" happy, America needs to match the programs in Pakistan X5 times in India.


kashmir!kashmir!kashmir! no matter what happens inside the boundaries of Pakistan, pakistanis like you will still scream kashmir from the top of their lungs. wish you cared as much for your own citizens as you care for kashmiris!
 
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They are our brothers, and their is no difference:)
 
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The reports are coming from US which openly holds jails like Guantenamo, Many secret jails in Iraq, Killing countless civilians all over NWFP and Afghanistan by drone attacks.

If US has to catch some criminal in some part of US......will they do similar drone attacks on their land. No they will certainly not. Because if that criminal was to kill 40 people in his life time, a drone attack to kill that criminal kills more than 40 people just at once.

Such a point coming from US or India is open hypocracy
 
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Sorry, it's not paining. It is no more than a Mushquito bite for the Elephant.


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
looks like the bite is in the nether regions thats why the pain is sharp..

by the way the Elephant is a very sensitive beast.. it brushes and blows the hay and grass many times before taking a chunck in its truck.

coming back to this disappearence report.. how should Pakistan reduce the concerns of America?
 
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coming back to this disappearence report.. how should Pakistan reduce the concerns of America?

By releasing the Taliban and sending them back to Afghanistan to attack and kill American and NATO forces. :lol:
 
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By releasing the Taliban and sending them back to Afghanistan to attack and kill American and NATO forces. :lol:

please dont say that.. its not even funny..

Americans are a strange lot really.. after their warter boarding, and their treatment at Badgram airbase, Cuba and Abu Gharib they still have time to shed crocodile tears for terrorists Pakistan has cought?

oh I see so Pakistan releases them and they can say.. you are not doing enough.:undecided::what:
 
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Considering there are separatists forces in Baluchistan, its a good thing if they really are doing this and if they are not...never too late, its not a bad idea!
 
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