Did you know Pakistan used to train Chinese engineers?

[313ghazi]

I stand corrected, there was 1 who was pm from 1953-1955, another 55-56, another one who did 3 months in 1957, then there was one who did a couple of weeks in 1971, and for course Punjabs finest, Nawaz Sharif. Also Raja Rental, Yousaf Raza Gillani, fat Jamali and mumbling Ch. Shujaat are all great minds educated in Pakistan who ran the country as confused desis.

 

[fitpOsitive]

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This was until nationalisation of Bhutto happened....

And as I say : and then came Bhutto.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I haven't checked, but I think it's probably accurate to say every single one of our PM's have been educated at Oxford, Cambridge or an American equivalent (unless it was a military dictator).

There are two fcukin things that separates Afghanistan from Pakistan. Pakistan inheritated westoxified evil, corrupt institutions like police, army, navy, airforce, judiciary, civil service, law, tax system, railways, irrigation etc and a small % of westoxified, western educated technocrats.

The Afghans fought like lions against the British [whilst your ancestors flung their open posteriors to the British] but have you seen the state of Afghanistan? And I don't have a chip. I just like to say as I think. Not hide in UK and trhen croak on about 'westoxified'. Wtf?

confused desis.

That describes you real well.

 

[Menace2Society]

Bhutto was a disaster just like PPP has ever been. More to do with mismanagement than anything else. This is one example.

You have just connected to the one of the most powerful and advanced ecnonomy in the world and all you can think of doing is ship out some donkeys?

Blame bhutto and rightly so he was incompetent but blame should be more widespread.

 

[313ghazi]

You know this is a canard that suckers like you have lapped up like holy water. Bhutto was in power for exactly 7 years. What you think every fault in Pakistan is down to those seven years from 40 years ago. What 7 years could not be undone for the next 40 years? Wtf?

That is simpletons rendering. I am pro PTI and detest PPP but for all his fault I respect Bhutto. It was this westoxified b*astard that laid the seed of the atom bomb.

Not all. Some., but thank god for that. I would shudder to think if we had desi like this punk running the countrry. Would make Nawaz like like a angel. I can bet you this cnut has never been anywhere near any university leave alone UK or American.

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Again, I get it - you have an agenda, but what power does one youtube mullah who got chucked in prison the moment he shouted too loud actually got? The same guy was glorified and paid by the Pindi boys when it suited them to dislodge NS, and then locked up when he barked at them.

Lets get real - these people have zero real influence on how the nation is run. It's the same bunch that had driven us into the ground.

You're right - what could one man do that couldn't be undone? But look at who was in charge all the time it was meant to be undone? The same elite - including for 2 terms his daughter and for 5 years his son in law (who was president).

 

[Menace2Society]

There are two fcukin things that separates Afghanistan from Pakistan. Pakistan inheritated westoxified evil, corrupt institutions like police, army, navy, airforce, judiciary, civil service, law, tax system, railways, irrigation etc and a small % of westoxified, western educated technocrats.

The Afghans fought like lions against the British [whilst your ancestors flung their open posteriors to the British] but have you seen the state of Afghanistan? And I don't have a chip. I just like to say as I think. Not hide in UK and trhen croak on about 'westoxified'. Wtf?

That describes you real well.

He's one of those reluctant immigrants

Bad mouth the host country in private, clean their toilets or drive them around in a taxi in the day. Im sure he enjoys pay day. See how he would like to go back home getting some donkeys ready for export

 

[313ghazi]

There are two fcukin things that separates Afghanistan from Pakistan. Pakistan inheritated westoxified evil, corrupt institutions like police, army, navy, airforce, judiciary, civil service, law, tax system, railways, irrigation etc and a small % of westoxified, western educated technocrats.

The Afghans fought like lions against the British [whilst your ancestors flung their open posteriors to the British] but have you seen the state of Afghanistan? And I don't have a chip. I just like to say as I think. Not hide in UK and trhen croak on about 'westoxified'. Wtf?

That describes you real well.

You have such an inferiority complex it's unbelievable. You introduced the word westoxified in this conversation, ascribed it to me, and then got offended by it. I've not used it once.

You don't like to say as you think, you like everyone else to say as you think - this is what your problem is. This was a thread about industrialisation and you came in with your own agenda, your own offensive terms, offended yourself and now have started to get abusive. Its beyond laughable. Get a grip.

He's one of those reluctant immigrants

Bad mouth the host country in private, clean their toilets or drive them around in a taxi in the day. Im sure he enjoys pay day. See how he would like to go back home getting some donkeys ready for export

Can you please show me one thing i've said negative about Britain or the west in this topic? Please, just 1 thing.

 

[El Sidd]

He's one of those reluctant immigrants

Bad mouth the host country in private, clean their toilets or drive them around in a taxi in the day. Im sure he enjoys pay day. See how he would like to go back home getting some donkeys ready for export

Mazel Tuv

But why don't you want him investing in a fast growing yet stable market of donkey exports? Even if he is doing that by driving a taxi in the UK? What motive does it serve you to stop him from doing that? Willingly or unwillingly if i may interrupt this fascist orgy

 

[313ghazi]

There are two fcukin things that separates Afghanistan from Pakistan. Pakistan inheritated westoxified evil, corrupt institutions like police, army, navy, airforce, judiciary, civil service, law, tax system, railways, irrigation etc and a small % of westoxified, western educated technocrats.

I missed this nugget.

The same army that funded and created jihadi camps up and down the country for 30 years until their own snakes bit them?

The same police which out to have a menu to show which service you can hire them for and how much it will cost? The rent-to-kill police?

The same judiciary and legal system that regularly locks up people falsely for alledged blashpemy? The very same one that turns booze into honey? The one that enforces laws to stop the masses from drinking whilst stcking the whisky cabinets in their own homes?

These people aren't the thin blue line between us and the savages next door - these people are the enablers of illiteracy, corruption and extremism in our country.

 

[El Sidd]

The very same one that turns booze into honey?

Jesus

 

[insight-out]

You know this is a canard that suckers like you have lapped up like holy water. Bhutto was in power for exactly 7 years. What you think every fault in Pakistan is down to those seven years from 40 years ago. What 7 years could not be undone for the next 40 years? Wtf?

That is simpletons rendering. I am pro PTI and detest PPP but for all his fault I respect Bhutto. It was this westoxified b*astard that laid the seed of the atom bomb.

Not all. Some., but thank god for that. I would shudder to think if we had desi like this punk running the countrry. Would make Nawaz like like a angel. I can bet you this cnut has never been anywhere near any university leave alone UK or American.

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There is a logical fallacy known as "Appeal to Extremes". See this. It is described as "erroneously attempting to make a reasonable argument into an absurd one, by taking the argument to the extremes". That is what you are doing.

Someone who is not educated at Oxford or Cambridge does not have to be a Khadim Hussain. There are many other possibilities on the spectrum.

 

[313ghazi]

There is a logical fallacy known as "Appeal to Extremes". See this. It is described as "erroneously attempting to make a reasonable argument into an absurd one, by taking the argument to the extremes". That is what you are doing.

Someone who is not educated at Oxford or Cambridge does not have to be a Khadim Hussain. There are many other possibilities on the spectrum.

This is what I don't get. He just has his own assumptions and tries to force them on everyone else.

Western educated Jinnah created the country, Oxford educated people did good stuff for it, Oxford educated people ruined it. We've currently got an Oxford educated guy trying to revive it - whom i wholeheartedly support.

But you know how it is with certain people - everyone has to say what they want them to say, otherwise it's wrong - regardless of what you are saying.

 

[insight-out]

Bhutto was an intelligent and courageous leader, no doubt. And he did great things for the country. But we must not forget that Bangladesh happened largely because of him. Moreover, those who point to his credentials as a British-educated, enlightened, progressive leftist should also remember that he used Islam as a political tool, much like others who have ruled Pakistan. No one is all evil or all good. But on balance, he did much more harm than good.

 

[Menace2Society]

This is what I don't get. He just has his own assumptions and tries to force them on everyone else.

Western educated Jinnah created the country, Oxford educated people did good stuff for it, Oxford educated people ruined it. We've currently got an Oxford educated guy trying to revive it - whom i wholeheartedly support.

But you know how it is with certain people - everyone has to say what they want them to say, otherwise it's wrong - regardless of what you are saying.

Its frustation. And frustrations I share too watching a country regress into this mess where donkey exports is seen as a means to an end. Everyone is sick of the incompetence and mistake after mistake.

Even Imran Khan talks about Pakistanis of the 60s and earlier and how they were different and they were. I am not talking about a village person, I am talking about people in positions of power and authority.

Now we have to watch Pakistanis riot in the streets demanding the death of a woman over hearsay and exporting donkeys. The only common factor is the obnoxiously overly religious folk in Pakistan who will bad mouth anything which challenges their authority and paid goons for corrupt politicans to swindle the masses.

 

[Hamza913]

the desi's did far more damage then the westoxified Pakistani's

Remember, it was under Zia Ul Haq that Pakistan's economic growth was the highest in the world.

Now we have to watch Pakistanis riot in the streets demanding the death of a woman over hearsay

Correction: Pakistanis demanding that an individual who broke the law and admitted to it be punished accordingly.

If she were punished appropriately, this mess wouldn't exist in the first place.